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was i right?
i am playing 1/2 no limit. i am bb and sb raises me 15$ we each have about 100$ in chips in front of us. i call in bb. flop comes Jc 10c 4c. he bets 20 i raise 20 he goes all in. i call. he has As Kd i have Qc and 9c. was i right?
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How could you not be right? A flush on the nut flush draw? I'm sure they were pretty bitter that you called their bluff... :cool:
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Streaks
I can deal with bad beats. Bad beats happen and there is nothing you can do about it but move on to the next hand. The most aggravating thing for ME is a losing streak. I am at a real low point right now and it is very frustrating. I know I can play better than I am; and I don't let myself play on tilt, but I'm just losing anyway. All week long, someone has been one-up on me. I chase them down with A8, they have A9... I buy my way to a flush, they make a boat.
Ok... I'm contradicting my bad beats theory by including those examples... maybe no one will notice. ;) |
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Do you really think that Ace 8 is a good starting hand. Look how many hands beat you and if you have callers in the pot you can bet there are other aces out there. Good chance with better kickers. Herb |
for me, its sitting at at tourney with inexperienced players that you cannot bet enough to get them to lay down the flush and str8 draws. people who overvalue there cards and hands are the most dangerous to play against. Experienced players expect certain reactions from there opponents based on there reads. I was in a tourney looking to double up my stack. I raised preflop and every card there after. I had a crap hand, however. I knew my opponent had a very weak hand. the board showed A,K,3 on flop, 10 on turn and Q on river. This yahoo called a total of 5000 in chips with 5,10 down.
it wasn't a read he had on me, it was he was an idiot. It easy to adjust your playing style to eliminate morons like this, but when you sit across from someone you haven't played before, beware of ignorance, I play large tourneys, very often, and this seems to be the trend. Most of these players have no idea what there doing, the only experience they have is what they see on TV. Poker is about making correct decisions. when it all pans out, the better and more experienced players will float to the top, luck only gets ya so far. My 2 cents. |
Last Sat nite, was at heads up (final 2) had about 60$ chips , other person had 80$, got pocket J's , bet all in he called me with 2C, 4D. Flop came 7D,
4S, 4H, ended losing to a set of 4's , now thats crazy!!!!! But again thats poker, right? It takes all kind, but would do the same call everytime! |
Those kind of hands make you wonder if there is any base dealing going on.
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Playing with idiots is part of poker and makes us better players. It's like blaming a black jack loss on the moron who hits 18 playing to your right. That's why there still exists a huge element of luck in poker and why even the best player will be beat by a newbie on a bad day. When playing with an idiot, you need to play that against him/her and take their money.
QUOTE=Unregistered]for me, its sitting at at tourney with inexperienced players that you cannot bet enough to get them to lay down the flush and str8 draws. people who overvalue there cards and hands are the most dangerous to play against. Experienced players expect certain reactions from there opponents based on there reads. I was in a tourney looking to double up my stack. I raised preflop and every card there after. I had a crap hand, however. I knew my opponent had a very weak hand. the board showed A,K,3 on flop, 10 on turn and Q on river. This yahoo called a total of 5000 in chips with 5,10 down. it wasn't a read he had on me, it was he was an idiot. It easy to adjust your playing style to eliminate morons like this, but when you sit across from someone you haven't played before, beware of ignorance, I play large tourneys, very often, and this seems to be the trend. Most of these players have no idea what there doing, the only experience they have is what they see on TV. Poker is about making correct decisions. when it all pans out, the better and more experienced players will float to the top, luck only gets ya so far. My 2 cents.[/QUOTE] |
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you're kidding right? |
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Hey Einstein
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Kings Suck
Bad beats, especially if you caught the guy bluffing, one time i had jacks full of kings, and my opponent catches a king of clubs on the river to make kings full of jacks, and i have actually considered slitting my own throat with that exact card!!!
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Tilt Master
Well I for one hate the bad beats....and they come all to often. I dont play pocket Jacks as hard as some.....to much out there to beat me. But I love to get big slick....he is my man!
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Hate to burst your bubble...
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But JJ and AK have almost the exact same chance of winning. JJ is actually a slight favorite. |
How everybody thinks they are a shark!
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Blackhawk, you said you don't like how everybody thinks they are a shark. I think many will agree with me that these players (who think they're sharks, but aren't) are where the most money comes from. They always keep coming back, because they convince themselves they are always better, but unlucky. However, I must agree, that I HATE those players that talk at a table about pot odds and position plays that they made, using poker terminology to make others think they are good. These ppl are just annoying.
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you're better off acting as if you dont know how to play at all, the dumn ones are who I pay closer attention too, not the talkers.
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Well,
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Who knows? You may actually have a better strategy that no one has heard of yet. If you do, please let me know. Also, I was commenting on the post from neo above, because he is obviously the type to take a lot of bad beats because he puts all of his chips in when he is only a slight favorite too many times. You can only win so many coinflips. I used to have the same problem. |
Players not involved in the pot telling thier cards before the hand is over. Either the plain tells, or the "oh damn!", when 555 comes on the board.
People underestimating the likelyhood of bad beats, especially all-iners. You get AA a 100 times, go all-in against bigger stacks everytime, you are certain to end up with nothing. "This site is rigged", apart from everything else, having a online poker site and rigging it, would be killing the goose that laid the golden egg if ever there was such a situation. |
U R An Idiot
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To tell u the truth my friend u r not a winning poker player if u cant beat "Nate" because if u cant beat an idiot like that then u r the idiot. Learn to play agressive players and stop complaining about it. According to your story "Nate" is just out playing the shit out of u. |
A bit harsh Unregistered but I take your point. Most people would kill to have a fish like 'Nate' playing at their table - occasionally he'll occasionally win a big pot from you by chasing down shit to the river but if you can't turn a serious profit against this chump then you need to look at your own game.
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Getting Bored and not paying attension. How many times I missed players that where still in and not paying attension to them.
Just cause your out, Does not mean you don't stop playing. |
Rigged Poker Sites
All the rigged online poker sites by far the most frustrating.
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Bad beats are part of poker. Some days I am the bug and some days I am the windshield. Whether online or live, poker is gambling. If you can consistently put someone on only HIGH cards, then that is the 'tell'. There are two ways to play poker - 1st, Win the Hand - 2nd, Win the Game/Money. The toughest thing in poker is to lay-down a perceived great hand when you know you've been 'sucked out'. There are a couple of chapters in Super System 2 that are excellent for understanding the 'new player'; the donkey who calls everything and wins some big pots by drawing out. If 'any two cards' is not your style of poker, then just learn to spot this type of player and avoid getting in hands with them, they will race you to the river more often than not. If you are in a cash game, pick your battles wisely - it's not just about your position, it's about who is 'in' or 'out' of the hand too. A lot of new players have never read any poker therory books, they don't know about 'position', preflop raises, etc... they just want to get their chips in the pot so they can 'maybe' pull it off.
I played in a cash game (at a casino) with a guy that absolutely irritated EVERYONE, even the dealer. He called every hand, he raised (pot builder) every hand. He was borderline rude to everyone and just a jerk of a person. But he knew what he was doing - he was pissing off the table so he could get people into pots to try and knock him off. He made more than 700 dollars in the 30 minutes I was at the table with him. He even took about 50 bucks from me (and I am a tight player). He made people at the table play his game, rather than playing their own. I sat out and watched for another 30 minutes, and he cracked AA, KK, QQ - at that point I couldn't watch the train-wreck anymore. Bottom line - bad beats suck, whether I am getting the beating or giving it. I try to be a good sport about it, say 'nice hand' and just make a mental note of who is a calling machine. |
I just joined this site and seems awesome. I cant get enough poker. I completely agree with the Administrator. Bad beats are part of the game and what goes around comes around. It's cold cards that kill you, especially when its only 4-6 handed, because you put in blinds every couple hands. That's why you gotta bluff :-) Btw i left a post in the Introduce yourself section concerning card dealing. If anyone is a professional or knows how/where to get employed/trained or whatever, please contact me.
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when you can not find a game win or lose its a good time if its not fixed and do not play poker online going to play some real poker tonight i wish me luck but good players do not need luck all we need are some good hands and ppl to think we are full of shi- well i am off to the game party long and hard live free or die
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Myself, ultimately. There are things generally that aggrevate players, but poker is perfect, its the players that need to change. If there were no bad beats noone would play you. If there were no calling stations that flopped flush would never get paid off. If there were no donkeys, everyone would lose money. The only thing that really stirs me up in poker is when i am out-played.
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