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There are two blackjack systems used by casinos popular where I live in Tulsa, OK. The first is a game called Super Fun 21. Briefly, it allows for DD's AFTER hitting, DD after splitting (including aces), surrendering after hitting, and surrendering after splitting. However, it pays 1 to 1 on blackjacks. The other is more standard BJ rules-DD's, no surrenders, doubling after splitting except on aces, dealer hits soft 17. They both use six-deck shoes, the latter often played deep and they both allow for mid-shoe entry. Are these games good for counting??