Bad beat, any suggestions

[SmegGSU]

I recently was playing in a home game, small money 50nl .50,1 dollar blinds.

The table has 8 players and i get dealt K,Q suited diamonds. I raise in middle position to 3 dollars, not a huge raise. I get two callers both have position on me. Flop come Ah, Jd, 10h. I flop the sraight and bet 7 dollars, both players call immediatly. Turn card is a 10c, this card dose scare me with two people calling me, now there is a flush draw and a possible full house, so i decide to check. both other players check. River card vomes 3h. Now the flush possibility hits. I check second player checks player button bets two dollars,(?!) weak bet. I call, and the second plaer reraises 6 dollars. The third player folds and it comes back to me, I clled the bet knowing i had probably lost but since there was so much money in the pot six dollars didn't seem like too much money and I had big stack at the table. I was hoping that he had not hit the flush but had made trips or two pair. I turn over my straight the other guy turns over an 8,2 of hearts for the flush. I cannot begin to describe how pissed off I was. Not because of the flush I was ready for that but, but what got me was that all he had up until the river was a draw and just about the worst one he couls ask for.

Could I have done anything different to maybe drive this guy out or should I really have folded to a six dollar bet? This was the first time I had olayed w/ this guy. I was told he knew how to play and was really good. I don't think reraising him on the river would havedone it either since I only called the other two dollar bet.

[Chad]

Honestly, I would have bet on the turn also to root out the drawers. Because you know with that kind of hand, you were a huge favorite, even on the turn. The odds of someone picking up the full house on the turn are pretty slim when there are only three players in during the flop. There was almost nothing that could have beaten your ace high straight until that bad river card. Now, if he was a crappy player or maybe low on chips instead, he may have called a large bet on the turn. Still, that's a rough beat though.

[Sharon]

that's all you can say, good hand, nice play. Yeah, it stinks to loose, but you gotta respect good play. I think he played his hand well, and I think you played yours well, too. And, it does cost you chips to get to know a new player. You played it well, I would have done the same, with the same circumstances.

Gotta respect good play, on both sides.

[Chad]

The guy called a raise preflop with an 8 2 suited. What a horrible call. Luck plays a huge role in the game.

[Sharon]

We all get hands that we 'FEEL' are good ones. An 8 2 suited and 2 of your suits are on the flop! How is that not a good play? Both played their hands well.

I've played a pair of 2's to the river with, I think nothing but face cards around them. Got one 2 on the flop and the other came on the river. I had a feeling and stuck with the hand. I had 3 two's on the flop and I had to pay dearly to see that other 2.

... and that's why they call it gambling.

[Chad]

An 8 2 suited before the flop is garbage. Even at the turn card, he was only a little worse than 3 to 1 to win with a flush. Well, I don't believe in psychic abilities. I usually play the odds and my opponents, if they allow me to.

Your pair of pocket 2s was actually a slight favorite to win over 2 face cards that aren't paired. Then you flopped a set. That turned your good hand into a monster hand. After that, you got an automatic winner on the river: the four of a kind. So, you weren't really doing much gambling, since you were the favorite to win the entire time and the chips were likely to come back to you. Honestly, I would have checked a hand like that until the river card and then raised on the river. None of them would have ever seen it comming. It's a good way to sucker your opponents in when you have a killer hand like that.

[Unregistered]

Calling a raise pre-flop with an 8 2 suited is horrible. And I doubt that he was a good player...good players don't play and win consistently with luck. You have to play odds...heads up is different but not in a game with 8 players. You played the hand well, and would have won had he not entered like he should not have. You just take a deep breath, and get ready for the next hand. Just keep that in mind about your opponent. In the future, you may want to come a little higher to root out the drawers.

[Branden]

No offense but you played horribly, your bet on the Flop gives a player with a flush draw or a straight draw good enough odds to call. Then when neither player raised you made the worst mistake of all and checked the Turn. Why were you afraid of a full house? If a player had 2 pair don't you think they'd have raised to force the draws to fold.

You made a very common mistake of being afraid that the hand that can beat you will beat you. next time stop for awhile and really think it through.

[Unregistered]

i don't think you made that huge of a mistake by checking the turn. Let's face it, If 8-2 called pre-flop, and then he called any bets on that flop, 8-2 would've called on the turn. 8-2 is obviously one of those players that play horrific cards but likes to gamble. Sometimes it pays off for him, but usually you will take all of his chips.

[Unregistered]

i think u should have bet on the turn to knock him out but then again it was a bad call preflop, i mean who keeps 8-2 suited in pretty much any situation.