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like i said greg raymer and chrus moneymakers are the new role models of poker and i feel all you you should respect their awesome ability to play the games, make strategic moves and read the other players flawlessly. of course JJ where were you ? You weren't at the event so you have no right to talk....at least moneymaker paid and entered the tournament more than what you can say for yourself...Moneymaker is an up and coming Legend!!!!
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stephanie, if your dad left when you were young, and you hardly saw him, how can you expect people to believe what you say?
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well steph, you were asked if it was true,and ducked question. but if you wanna get upppity, ok. Now, my turn. the same ip adress is due to some of us in New york, who knew your father, phil brush , or both, using same internet cafe. and since you and your punk friend wannabe want to get rough,or you want details, here we go, little princess. My uncle was hank smurra, a friend of Phils till phil was banished from new york by the mob in the 80's. He also knew your father. unclle hank was killed years ago, but when alive him and others used to tell of phil and stuey dating stueys future wife wife at same time. that is where jokes and rumors come from regarding bi stuff. I do not beleive it, others swear it is true. You say you and your mom laugh at these things. good thing your dad aint michal jackson, you and her might laugh to death! i know one story that is even more interesting. ASk your mom about her and phil brush and there "encounter" in a car that your father found out about. Only a dope would still marry a women after that. ask her, go ahead, its known all over brooklyn. phil even took her to avenue N dice games when she was dating your dad. sorry to bring it up but you wanted to talk sh*t, you and friend "wannabe" hope you and mom enjoy goof laugh overe that story, sure you two will find it funny.
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and by the way, I am taking trip to rhoide island this week and may use hotel computer there, so don't get confused again over ip adresses. instead, try giving an occasional straight answer. You only give answers to those who agree with you on everything. try getting real
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Your facts were wrong on so many things already. Do you really think I am actually going to give anything you have said much thought. Anyway, I feel as if I am arguing with a child and I am doing no better by replying to your commments. As I said before, I am not going to reply to anymore of your comments. Sorry everyone I need to exercise more self control.
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Don't appologize Stefanie... take care and Thank you for being a part of something positive. I have learned a lot from you and your kindness. there will always be some people that just feel good hurting others. Don't let it affect you and your good nature or positivity. Then they win. Good decision not to respond. those with respect will ignore and not give thought or credibility to someone that wishes to hurt others simply by nature. Thanks again, Kent
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this all sounds like fake feuding to me, something publicity people do to drum up a book sale---bi-sexual. is not, gangsters, and so on. probably one person or bunch of friends doing 90% of stuff here---stephanie, brooklyn guy, and others are all made up. what a waste of space
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now person portraying unger daughter will make appearance--or will it be one of the other charactersand the guy claiming to be actor, asking for part in unger movie---please, we just had one!
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Stefanie...how old are you? Just curious?
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Iam 22.
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LMFAO aveN your a good story teller.. and a real tough guy who uses words like "uppity" LOL you know its some fat kid with nothing better to do than to try and make up stories about people because he got no friends. when you take that trip to road island dont forget your laptop so you can be sure to post up your fictional life story... and regarding me and stef as "friends".... friends are usually people you hang out with in real life. maybe you should try and get some... i've never even met stefanie my whole life... so get off my jock...
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with a name like "wannabe' you should be LAST person to talk about people trying to be something they arent. And princess stff still does not answer about her mother and stus friend phil in carif you think i'm bluffing look up uncle I mentioned, he was kiled in mob war, knew ungar and phil, knew steffs mom and so on. believe what you want
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wannabe and stefanie sound like same person posting here. I think ken is right about fake feud being drummed up. I do wish (if stephanie is really ungars daughter) that she would answer the tough questions instead of hiding behind excuses for not answering.
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its really her!! i swear it and im santa clause! see? i even got the beard...lolanyway Stu was definatly an amazing player, a persons life-style has nothing to do with determing who the best is. if i win 20 WSOP braclets but then go and screw sheep does this make me a bad poker player? no it just means that aside from being an amazing poker player i have a really nasty habit. same with Stu, amazing player, with a bad habit that does nothing to detract from what he acomplished, though it did stop him from acomplishing as much as he could have.
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Simply Stated- Stu Was- Without Question- The Bestall Around Card Game Player Ever. Remember- Stuwas The Reason Vegas Went To Multi Deck Blackjack-as For Gin No One- No One- Would Argue That He Wasthe Best To Ever Play That Game. As For Poker Hisrecord Is Unmatched In Nlh Tournaments- I Can Predict With Almost 100% Certainty That No Onewill Ever Win Binions World Series Of Poker Twice-by That I Mean Chan, Doyle, Phil, Raymer, Ferguson,ivey,hanson,carlos,huck, Daniel N., None Of The Past Winners And None Of The Future Winners Will Ever Repeat-- Theres Simply Too Many Players Competing Now And Theres Always A Bit Of Luck Involved- The Only Person Who I Would Not Say That About Is The Kid. He Would Be The Only One That Would Even Have A Chance At Repeating Because As Ive Already Stated He Was The Best All Around Card Game Player Ever - Period- End. Rip Stuey
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Hey rickyn I agree the guy was great. What's a bummer is that he died. You know don't you think it would safe to say that he could have won Binions 3 in a row. I know he won it twice but I feel strongly he could have made in back to back to back if he would have played every year, nice write up btw
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I've recently taken a great interest in researching Mr. Ungar- not just his life or his mis-steps therein but his game.The man was equal parts brilliant and reckless, which transcended his poker game and apparently drove to the the center of his real life as well.In high stakes games, the reckless types are impossibly frustrating, but rarely are they brilliant. Here is where Mr. Ungar had things wired tight.The genius types always have another side to them- you cannot have that sort of cerebral capacity and not find life difficult at times. I think that Stu Ungar and Bobby Fischer are in this grouping (although from what I've read, Mr. Ungar wasn't stricken with severe mental illness as Bobby Fischer seems to be nowadays...)I believe that with the explosive growth of the popularity of poker and a number of people asking "Who was the greatest ever", Stu Ungars status as a cult figure has just seen it's genesis. Everyone is interested in a tragic cases of unparalleled genius- Mr. Ungar seems to fit that bill nicely.I'm 26 and to look at what Stu Ungar had accomplished by that age, it makes me a bit jealous- being one of the finest poker and gin players on earth.I look forward to seeing the movie- I haven't done so yet.
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Hey Everyone! I always tell you all that I'll keep you informed of anything going on. Well, I just did an interview with the "New York Times" newspaper today. You can look forward to it comming out on the 26th of this month. They interviewed the authors of my dad's book and other poker players as well. I know alot of you don't believe I am realy Stuey daughter but now you have some inside scoop that no one knows about yet. Talk to you all later. Take Care. Stefanie
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Anyone that does not think U R really not Stuey's daughter has not read this site. Thanks Steph for everything I look forward to it. Hope everything going well at WSOP with book? Thanks, Kent
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Stef...my bad LOL always do that. Smile
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Stuie=god
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if they were able to get mr miyagi and ralph the mouth in high roller why couldnt they also go past the 2 dollar movie budget and also have joanie and cha chi and the fonz in the movie as well so it could have been a happy days reunion ...
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this guy has an afro. whats up with the porn star haircut
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Stefanie, I wrote question for Peter Alson (see above) he wrote one time on site (hope it was him) if you talk to him could you please ask him if he will come back to this page and respond? I am sure he is very busy but he did say he would be happy to answer questions. Thanks and can't wait for book. Is it out yet? Looking forward to your interview. Things a little better with son did hear from him. Thank you for the hope and faith you have provided. You are sweet and a very nice person. Kent
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Kent, I don't know when I will be talking to Peter but when I do I will ask him if that was really him on this site and ask him to respond to you. I am so happy to hear about you and your son!!! God is good. The book will be out on the 28th of this month. Takecare! Stefanie
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Unger was a terrible cash game player for anyone who cares.
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Hey it's okay. I heard Phil Hullmuth is pretty good too.. I met him a couple of times, he's actually a pretty business oriented guy... always so busy!
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Ungar had to be good player, probably best at Gin. But all the genius talk is crazy (I'll probably get blasted now by all the Ungar nuthuggers) For example, I keep reading he had agenius I.Q. According to what??? Also, every other top Poker tar is now called 'a mathamatical genius" He was a top card player, but not a superhuman, or a genius. He was not even best ever at poker. Close, but not top 10 ever. I know he won 3 times, but he was in every year for 20 years, and it was easier to win in 1980's then it is now.
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played with him for almost 2 years,,best instincts of any poker player ever,,but stu was also very rude to dealers and the supporting cast around him,,he was not the nicest guy in the world but he did bust me quite often,,,he was an asshole way before helmuth and motormouth mike came along
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what kind of loser would talk bad about stu ungar. i take joy in the fact that u lame ass bitches will achieve nothing in this life. zero
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OK, I am going to wade into the mud one more time and speak my mind. I read this stuff from others that just seem to want to say mean judmental things even about memories of the deceased. I can only imagine what life must be like for those with time for hurting others. Those of you who debate how the pros who played Stuey Ungar felt...or even those that talk about how mean he was and do not listen to what his own daughter has to say about him... please go to this website ([url]http://www.gocee.com/poker/stu_ungar.htm[/url]) and see what Chan, Brunson, Sexton and yes even one of the famous card dealers that everyone talks about being "hit in eye with a card" tell his side of the story and what he learned from Stuey (good and bad). Please open your minds and read. I do not believe anyone is "better....or greater" than anyone else. In a world of individuals comparison is a sensless activity. All I know is that those who knew and loved this man say he had an ubelievable talent and I am fascinated and touched by his story. I respect what he did and he obviously left his mark on the world. I happen to think now that his greatest accomplishment and his greatest love (Stefanie) is his greatest legacy and she continues to try to make this world a better place and help others....Then there are other people I see writing on this site that appear to take great joy in hurting or trying to hurt others with judgemental comments while in the same breath admitting Stuey's talent. We all have our demons and the lesson I take from Stuey is that he overcame them to do what no person has ever done and will probably never do again. Those demons caught nack up to him, however, he did things I can only dream of... but most importantly the person he was looking at and chatting with on the phone while he Won his 3rd WSOP main event title is still here today doing good for others like me on this very web page. She has never been mean or hateful or disrespectful to anyone on this site...however, those who cannot control their selfs continue to attack and disrespect and she continues to be positive. These same people criticize Stuey for his faults...yet... the only legacy these people seem to want to leave is one of hurting others? I love cards, poker, GIN and mostly addrenaline rushes from taking chances. How I get that rush and the rewards often controls my actions (some good / some bad)... Those of us who are perfect should cast the first stone...lots of rocks being thrown on this site. But the one person that is making the world a better place and making others say, "I would be proud to be her Father" is Stuey's greatest legacy. Those being mean and saying mean things abuot Stuey's gifts, ability and character... what would your parent's say about that? I hope some of you will read the site link I am providing here with an open mind and heart. Note the spelling of "SteFanie's" name and ask yourself why would someone make up things and write what she has on this site if it was not her? Also, for those that will say, "oh that site he sent was just made up those people didn't really feel that way about Stuey Ungar"... note the e-mail addresses attached to the articles... it is them. For those that will blast back at me and continue to have a closed mind and need to hurt others... I hope you find a better purpose in this world. I have said what I have to say.... we ALL have talents I am just fascinated with Stuey Ungars talent and would like to achieve one 100th of his success and avoid his failures by learning from those that loved and respected his gifts. Wish we could all focus on what made him good and learn from those things that took his talents and life away. We ALL have those things inside us it is only a matter of choice if we act upon the good or the bad in us... enough said.Please visit this site and read: [url]http://www.gocee.com/poker/stu_ungar.htm[/url]
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thanks for the update Stephanie. Can't wait for the book.
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Kent,As you guessed, I have been very busy. I'm here at the WSOP researching my next book, which will be a gonzo first-person account of this year's poker madness here. To answer your various questions: One of a Kind is now in stores (at least it was at the local Las Vegas Barnes and Nobles); the book was based on interviews that Nolan did with Stuey before he died, and also on extensive interviews with all the major players in Stuey's life, including Madeline and Stefanie, as well as Doyle, Puggy, Billy Baxter, Mike Salem, and many many others. For anyone who wants a book signed, there will be a signing at the poker expo at the Rio the first week of July, and Nolan and I are in the poker room virtually every day for anyone who wants a book signed and can find us (our pictures are on the inside dust jacket flap if you want to know what we look like). Hope you all enjoy the book. Stuey lived an amazing life and it's a hell of a story.
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I've been following the tracks of this book for the better part of 2 years now. So pleased it's finally ready for release.
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Ungar wa sa loser in new york for years, he was overated as a gin player. He used to play with that slob gangster victor romano who supported him, and romano would intimidate opponents of ungar and give him tips as they played. he obviously did reach great status at gin, but as a human being he was a creeep who liked surrounding him with tough guys and gangsters, he was total punk on his own. I knew him, played him in new york more then most here can say. I feel bad for daughter but not enough to make her father sound like a saint
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Thanks for the response Peter I will go today to Barnes and Noble and get/order my copy. I was going to be in Vegas last part of July but trip got cancelled if you have a book tour or plan to pass through Atlanta please let me know I would love to meet either of you. Tell Nolan congrats on this and thanks for the hard work. I Look forward to your first hand account of this madness as well. From someone that has played 22 yrs and remembers the days that this game was not one to talk about in certain venues to one of the discovery channel, internet casino's and ESPN it is quite a different ball game today? Never thought I would see a day that as a Oklahoma kid hearing road stories from a poker playing father about the road warrior Brunson in hushed tones to the release of Super System (which changed my game and life) to the present day fame, fortune and popularity of a game I hold dear. Thanks again, Kent (kentrn@bellsouth.net)
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Hi Stefanie,I wrote on March 20th but didn't hear back. Although I knew your dad till he was about 16, your Aunt Judy was someone very special to me. Although the book did shed some light on Judy and Stuey's relationship till about '81, I was disappointed not to learn anymore about her death. Would your Mom be able to add anything? I would so appreciate it because the book was an emotional ride and a half. thanks. larry soffes
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Best in the World.Women money career FAME.Always the best...Aris
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I am anxiously awaiting my copy of ONE OF A KIND - and hoping that they will make a new and improvedmovie about stu. As for people refering to stu as a genius- stu- as told by bob stupak- counted down half of a six deck shoe of cards after seeing the first half of the shoe- I dont know that this wouldqualify him as a GENIUS but I'M thinking that if hehad been pointed towards academics rather than gambling he would have probably been someone in the mold of a GOOD WILL HUNTING. what cant be measuredwas his inate ability to read other players and hisability to calculate the probability of cards thathadnt been played yet. if stu had been blessed withself discipline along with his other talents we wouldnt be discussing who was the greatest poker player of all time - it would be obvious.
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Hey Stefanie I bought One of a Kind on its release date here in Georgia 6-28. I finished the book last night and have to it is an excellant book. There was a lot of people that made that book happen. And without them the book would not have been as good as it was. To everyone wanting to read this book it is about Stu Ungar he was a son, brother, husband, father, friend, gambler, poker player, and addict. The book details every aspect of his life. Great read check out if you want a accurate account of how this man grew up and lived life to the fullest.
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