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It's in the book, he finished ninth one year, without even showing up for the final day and a half. He was OD'd and he had built enough chips to finish ninth until he was blinded off.
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Stephanie, can you contribute to them a better pic of your dad, this one is too grainy!
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Re-read the book...awesome job again. Please pass my sentiments on to Nolan and Peter. Notice the stupac story where he had signed a contract and hired someone to follow and protect his investment as I have read in other stories is missing from book, Was that story not true? Look forward to meeting you and others in Atl book signing. Thanks and again very good book.
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crack head that caught cards
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"Posted by: on Jul 22, 2005 - IP=64.83.225.108 crack head that caught cards"
yeah right he has 4 WSOP bracelets, and won 3 WSOP Main Events, no one can get that lucky. lets see u win 4 WSOP bracelets and 3 of them be the Main Event. |
Stephanie, I bought the book "one of a kind" and really love reading it. It´s very fascinating! What strikes me is that it seems very honest, including both good and bad aspects. A suggestion to Stephanie: I´ve read you can´t even play poker. I really suggest you learn holdem (which would take a few minutes) and play the game, for two reasons: 1)You would get a better feeling of what your father accomplished, 2)with the incredible natural talent your father had I´m convinced that if you only got a portion of that talent you could become a good or even great player.
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To The Ungar Family, I am sorry about your loss, I never seen him play (just a few highlights on ESPN) but I have read the book. I myself am a player, IT IS very hard the way everything is set up around gambling, There are people always taking Lorcet's to stay up & Xanax's to go down. I dont care what anyone say's, I've been there. Never used any coke/pot etc.. but pill's IS a MAJOR factor in tournament play, maybe not for some people & most wont admit it, but it's truth. Look at other great players in history, All have had drug problems or died from them, Len Bias, Brett Farve, Lawerence Taylor, Michael Irvin.. The list goes on people.. Its about pressure. Im willing to bet over 30% off the 2005 WSOP players have used something, even if it's something as small as a Red Bull energy drink. I am very curious to know about what years Mr. Stu Ungar played in the big events & his place in them, If anyone has a list or knows, could you please email me? Thanks Emmett
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Only one man in history captured titles at both the WSOP and the Super Bowl of Poker, and that man was Stu Ungar. And he won them three times each! (From Mike Sexton). Main event WSOP titles 1980-81 (back to back) and 1997 the comeback kid did it again! He had total of 5 WSOP wins and he himself admitted that there may someday be a better tournament poker player (I doubt it personally), however, it is undesputed that he was and will always be the best Gin player the world has ever seen (a very complex and much more subtle game than Poker heads up Stuey was the master. As far as drugs go Lorcet is a pain med (downer, red bull gives you wings, cocaine and meth amphetamine are prbably the hardest drugs to kick.... so if people are using these as much as noted above then they are playing russian rulette and should "read this book carefully". The lesson to be learned is that no matter how good you are and how much you may love your family, your talent, life....money ..anything. If you place drugs in front of them you will lose it all. I agree with Stefanie in that almost every addict I have met (self included) the only thing that can help when medicine, religion and psychiatry have failed...that is a faith in something greater than yourself (a higher power of your choice). The only other options for addicts such as myself are Jails, institutions and death.
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red bulls not a drug if it was it would be off the shelf i could buy a four pack of redbull and play online poker 2 days straight but there was a blog on pokerpages that on one of the wsop events a lot of the players were on hard stuff not redbull
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180's are even better when i play a tournament at a bricks and mortar casino i mix either with vodka gives me strenght to go all in with 7-2 off suit if i have too
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stu was the man, he was the greatest ever. there will never be a better gin player than him
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Thank you Stephanie for your comments on this message board, and its great to see that you have done well for yourself. I have recently gotten involved with my church in counseling for drug and alcohol addictions having been there and done that. Have you ever thought about counseling people for what you have been through living with someone with an addiction? Reading your posts I think you would be great at it and it might be something you might want to consider. I have nothing but respect for your father's God given gifts at the poker table and may he rest in peace. God be with you and your family. Sincerely, Stephen
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It's funny you mentioned that about counseling because I am going to school to become a Christian couseler. The reason I say "Christian" Couseler is because I know God is the only One that actually healed and changed my life in so many ways. I wouldn't be able to sit across from someone in my office tring to help them knowing that I am leaving out the main ingrediant that truly works. Also, my mom and I have are putting together a website for my dad it's still under construction but you can go on and see what it looks like so far it [url]www.stuartungar.com[/url] I'll keep you all posted on more to come. Takecare!!!!
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The website looks great so far!! I am so glad to hear that you are well on your way to becoming a Christian Counseler, I know you will do wonderful work in the years to come. I would love to hear how being a Counseler changes your perspective on life in general as it completely changed my outlook on things and brought me much closer to God. I wish you nothing but the best life has to offer and I look very forward to hearing more on your journey. Keep us posted and God be with you and yours. Stephen.....WGAIP.
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Okay, this gets more unbelievable. According to what I have been able to discover, Stu made 6 final tables at the WSOP (4 No-Limit Championships and 2 "other" events"), and the only time he didn't win was because he was too drugged out to play and was blinded out of the tournament? So, in reality, he was 5 FOR 5? 5 times he sats down at a final table at the WSOP, and he won 5 bracelets? If that's true then we're going to see Joe Dimaggio's hitting streak broken before Stu's 5 for 5 is bested.
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Stefanie-did you see my question above about the Stupac story I have read where he (or someone) claimed to have signed a contract with your dad and gave him walking around money and he said he was going to your birthday prior to his death in order to shake the guy who was supposed to watch him? I noticed it was not in the book so I suppose it must not have been true? Thanks and I look forward to you visit to Atl please keep me posted. Nice to hear about your counseling education I think you will be great at it. Kent
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The best hold em player the game has ever seen. He was incredible.
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Supposly it's true about the bodygard story but I honestly don't know. Yes, it is true about the contract with him and Stupac. He agreed to pay off my dad's debt if my dad would let stupac back him and they would split the money. Just to clearify something too... I didn't say " higher power of your choice" because I believe Jesus is the Highest of all Highs. This is what I have come to know in my own life. I just want to make sure people understand exactly what I ment by the comment I made above. Takecare! Talk to you soon.
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I just got done watching high roller for like the 10th time and wanted to read some more about the great Stu Ungar. Then I found this site, and well I think its horrible how all you people just sit there and talk trash about him, as if you could ever be as good at poker as he is. Maybe you should read about his big acomplishments and not just the drugs and BS that went with them. Frankly if it wasnt for the drugs and losing all his money countless times and his death nobody would talk about him like they dohe would just be another old timer at the table like Doyle Brunson. What made him so interesting was his non stop gambling on anything and everything.
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Thanks Stephanie... I was just curious about why that was not in the book. As far as the comment about "higher power of your choice" I am a christian and have seen many come to know his love. However, for many addicts there have been events (you know my story a little) where those around you that you see as christians either judge or even reject you for a difference in faith. This indifference and lack of unconditional love that Jesus teaches pushes people away. I have found that it is better to be loving and caring and do what I think christ would do "without any judgement or criticism of faith" and allow others to know what I am and who I am. If this helps them connect to what they come to know as christ then all is well? Get it? Many people have a block when it comes to this (self included) when I have a christian take my son away and not let me speak with him.... I know this is just one person...and she claims to have a close walk with christ. But actions speak much louder than words. I just want others to know peace. I wish I could find some. thanks again and you are a special girl. As far as gambling comment about what made your Dad special...what made him special was the stories about all he did for others when he won with the gifts God gave him. The most special gift was a daughter full of his love and charity. For me Gambling, drugs and anything that supposedly made "me" feel good. Did just that but left me empty inside. It was only when I became a nurse and focused on helping others that I was fulfilled truly. peace and love, Kent
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Just to let you know my dad felt empty too when he gambled. Thats why no win was ever big enough & no game was ever high enough. It was good for a while but it didn't last because it was a false comfort. I had many conversations with him about this. Don't get me wromg he loved what he did for a living but it didn't fill that emptyness in his heart.This is when I started to talk to him about Jesus and how when you accept him in your life the emptyness is filled. It's like a brand new door is open in your life that you never even knew exsisted until that piont. For those who never experienced this you might really think I am a little WEIRD but until you see it in your own life I guess you won't understand, which is totally understandable. I completely agree with you that actions speak louder that words. I don't like either when some Christian act in ways that contradict things we believe in. That just goes to prove even more how we ALL fall short and sin. Otherwise Jesus didn't have to die on that cross. And if others are judging you that is not your problem(I know it hurts) God is the only one who can judge. He is the only one who knows the motives in our hearts. Kent, I know without a doubt in my mind that if you cast your cares upon him in this situation(which is what he say's to do in situation like this in life) with your son he will come through. Sometimes God does things in life to catch your attention so you will turn to him and depend on him to see the situation through. And somtimes it's just a test to see how strong and if your faith with be shaken during hardtimes. During trials is the only time your faith matures. I don't know if you already knew that but when I came to realize that it gave me alot more motavation to get through those times. I feel it inside you will have your son back in your life. I really do. Just don't lose hope. So many people give up the day before they get their miracle. Wake up thinking "today might me the day that God moves on my exwife heart and decides to let my son in my life again." On my dads website I am going to have a place to write people so I don't have to use this one anymore. Kent, you seem like such a nice guy I can't wait to hear about all the great things God is going to do in your life. God Bless you and you family. Stefanie
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Steph I just started reading all of these comments about your dad and some of them are really nice and some people just have no self respect or respect for your dad. I think it takes a lot of courage to read these things and then respond to them as well. People should learn from you. If you dont mind I would really like you to email me on a more daily basis so that I can learn more about your dad from his very own daughter. Not everything but just some of the most interesting things about him and you growing up. Thanks for your time and hope to hear from you.
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These people who have been saying bad things on here are cowards at heart, and small minded. I think of that movie the Wizard of Oz, when the Wizard is all tough and loud, till the curtain is pulled away, and he is frightened old guy. It would be great to be able to pull moniter away and see who some of these people are. Wishful dreaming, of course. I know that Stefanie's father would be proud of her for defending him here---although he does not reeally need defending, he had a different life than others, and the good in him outweighed any mistakes he made. I hope that site of him is up soon, and hope it does well
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Thanks Stephanie....you probably do not realize just how much God does speak through you and you have given me hope. You will help many people with you christian maturity and faith. Thank you and some day I hope to meet you at a book signing. To hear from a child that has been on the other side of this cruel disease and all you have ovrcome and share so openly and to see your love/faith surely gives me hope and renews my faith. I am going back to church now (has been over six years) as a result of your comments and the book and the ice is melting from my heart. My eyes are opening up again which gives me hope. God bless and you are a very special child of God. Smile, Kent
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Stephanie...the miracle is already happening and you are a part of it. I will keep you posted on things that I know will happen if I can walk in faith and maintain hope with Gods help. The site looks good I can't wait. Kent
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Its funny listing to all you guys. I bet most of you didnt even care about him until the movie came out. Now that poker is big and shit you all want to get on the band wegon and what not. I bet most of you havent even seen him play lol you guys are funny
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this is for the girl who says she is stu's daughter. How can you exspect us to belive u are really his daughter u could be some freakshow or something we dont know. It's kind of hard to belive you are u know
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Nick....did you read any of this site prior to your comments. I think if you read the questions and Stephanies specific remarks you will know it is her...especially if you know anything about the Kid. I have been in poker world for over 22 years and have studied not only Stu Unger from his arrival into the poker world but I was an even higher level Gin player than poker ever thought of being. I really don't know if your comments were serious or just meant to be hurtful? Stu Unger was not only the best poker player I have ever seen (and has record to prove it well before TV or popularity of poker) he was and will always be the greatest (uncontested in GIN world by far) Gin player ever. He made sure we would learn a lesson from his life in the book he was preparing tp help others when he passed away to help us avoid his mistakes. I highly recommend the Book "One of A Kind" and that is from someone that has studied this remarkable human being throughout his career even back to his Gin days when he was still with us and when I was a teen ager._
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Nick,She is his daughter, and if she was not, why do you care?? Get a life. She is his daughter though. I was wondering myself, I asked someone who would know, they confirmed it.
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Just got done finishing the book purchased on 7/28, Mr. Ungar quotes and Nolan Dalla writing was wonderfully written. The best story had to be fliipng the chips on the chair and when Mr. Ungar lost "f%$$ it". By the wayStefanie I wanted to let you know you are hot! trate
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