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i think thats a bad name for a foundation thats gonna b geared 2wards anti-suicide and drug/gambling abuse prevention. stu ungar was the foremost card genius this race ever produced not a fking junkie. its like "hey there was this guy stu who did drugs and gambled and he died dont be like him join this foundation we named after him" his name needs to be on card clubs or maybe a museum not a rehab center.
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Genius courts failure! This guy was far and away the best card player while he was alive! He was one of the best propostion gamblers up there with the likes of Doyle and Slim. As he said when he won his 3rd title, "The only person that can beat me at this card table
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"He was one of the best propostion gamblers up there with the likes of Doyle and Slim"Then what did he blow his money on? I've never heard before that he was a good gambler, just a fantastic tournament poker player and the greatest gin rummy player ever.
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Stu is truly the greatest card player to ever live but one of the best proposition gamblers? No. As far as proposition gambling goes Titanic Thompson was and is the best. No one could hold a candle to what Ti could come up with.
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However if Ti and Stu went heads up in NLH, Ti would go down hard like the legend goes.
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Thanks for the Kind words Steph I was disappointed but that ofyen happens when we get our expectations too high. For me staying clean and away from the rush of drugs or gambling came through 12 step programs which allowed me to re-connect with a "higher power" which was the teachings of Jesus. We often look for a plan and when we hit our heads against walls we look for escapes (drugs,gambling...quick fixes...then dissappointment). A mind seeking escape does not confront fear and for me faith and awareness of my diseases relieved that fear so I could go on and become what I was put here for (a calling) and not throw my life away looking for escapes or an easy fix. No one "including Jesus" said life would be easy. But the desire for money and "stuff" blinds us to life. We must learn to live in the present not the past or future and enjoy gods gift of life. That was just for me... each one of us are on our own path and own purpose... no better no worse and without judgement. Money and desire to be the greatest leads to the isolation of the spirit and away from truth of who we really are. We all fall short at times and no one can cast the first stone. I have always believed you are who you are... I have always admired your Dad and knew all about him and his life and knew who you were by what you said as truth... but after getting to know his daughter here (a little..which is why i was so dissappointed not to meet you) I now realize there is a reason beyond our comprehension and evolution of his life and now through you and your Mom a lesson for all of us. Thanks again and God bless your Mom and you for using the money to help others. KentP.s. I am not only clean but have stopped gambling.
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P.S. Too those with hate in your hearts an petty words...I will pray for you and not take time to get involved in hatred. If you could read what we were talking about you would have understood. There are always those that must stand on others to to look taller. Sad
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Come on guys, lets all settle down now. Anyways, about Doyle being the best. Yeah, I thought so too when I first bought Super System and read all about his back to back wins. I thought he was a legend, which he is, don't get me wrong. But when you start to learn about Stuey you realize there exists a man with a far greater legend in the making. In fact, when he beat Doyle in 80' to win the Championship, that was the starting point of his amazing story. It just seems like fate that a man who was bound for his third World Series title (Doyle had two from 76'&77') was beat by another man who actually went on to attain three championship titles, and that man was none other than Stuey 'the Kid' Ungar. (80',81', 97). And he beat THE Doyle Brunson. Wow, you know, all I can say is that it had to be fate. I mean, what else could it be. A phoenix risen from the ashes to come back 16 years later to win it one last time to make history... just something to think about.
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i just seen the movie its a great moviesteph u should aim me i want to know more about ur dad my sn for aim is provman11
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Steph,I would love to talk to you, maybe interview you for a website I post on. Please respond. My email [email]isroger2000@graffiti.net[/email]
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those who have yet to see the movie, go rent it A,S,A,P, it is one of the msot influential poker movies ever created, better then rounders! RIP Stu!
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he once with a board of a 5 6 k A Q called a huge bet after the river with a 9 10 and said you either have 3 4 or 7 8 come on hes te best ever hands down
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That was against Mansour Matloubi. But the board was different from the post above. The board was 7-3-3-K-Q. Stu w/10-9, Mansour w/5-4 offsuit. Stu beat him with a mere 10 high. What an incredible read! Stu is da man!
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Stefanie, All the best...I am currently reading One of a Kind and will look forward to the future movie. You have landed a first rate guy to create the proper silver screen story. It is something to read about the dismissive statements regarding Stu Ungar as a junkie. Your Dad was a tremendous individual and terribly conflicted one at that. From what I could gather the biggest drug problems surfaced later in his life after your brother Richie's death. Was the spiral into drug addiction triggered by that event? All the best and be well.
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Stu the kid Ungar. The greatest to sit at a poker table, he played with no fear. His balls were titanic. Hes my definition of a gambler. Either you win big or lose it all thats the only way to play as far as im concerened. The man was a genius something of a pheneomon. When he played to his ability he couldnt lose and he knew that, and hed make sure you knew it too. If he could still play today i could only imagine the impact hed have on the poker world now. I think i heads up match between him and Mike the mouth would be an event for the ages. Or him and hellmuth. Hes the greatest poker player to ever play the game...then, now, and forever.
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Its a shame those of us who were not involved in poker when stu played missed seeing him play. I am sure without question that he was the greatest NLH tourney player of all time, and we wont even start on his talent in gin. we may never see a natural talent such as stu again. I think he said it best when even he said "I dont know how I know things, I just do!" Anyone who reallly does the research will see what an amazing talent this man was. To all of you who just see his drug abuse and choose to define his life by it, you are just narrow minded. His love of life was displayed by his zest of gambling. He was willing to put it all out there, all the time. I dont know about anyone else but what a man it takes to live every day, hour, min., second like its your last. Stu's accomplishments in NLH and gin will probabally never be matched, but more importantly we should all try and live our lives to fullest just as stu did. Stef. I dont know anything about you, but thank you for contributions to this site and the book. Its nice to have a chance to learn more about men like your father. Stu-keep cracking the big game upstairs like we know you are!
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You're joking, right? Stu was a genius who was completely owned by his addictions.
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who is writting the screenplay for the movie?
Who has the title role as Stu? wut is the movie called |
stefanie is hot!!!
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Just finished "One of a kind", I knew he was good but I did'nt think he was that good. Unbelievable book about an unbelievable person. Stu is the best ever. And no disrespect intended: To Stephanie and your mother...You are very hott! seen pics in book
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Thank you
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I liked the book, but I noticed something in the reviews on Amazon and other sites. People say Stu Ungar grew u in Little Italy, or in an Italian neighborhood, which i snot true, his neighborhood was mostly Jewish, with some Spanish and after the late 1950's. Also the mafia stuff is overblown. I hop ethe movie they make from thi sbook is better than one they made with Imperioli calle dHigh Rollar. That was a disaster
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After reading one of a kind there is no doubt who will be the king of the poker world for all time, dead or alive is stu the kid ungar. Guys like Juanda etc wannabes got the green eye monster & can only wish they were 1/4 as great. Long live the [legend].
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its been a while since somebody said something on here
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Stefanie... I just started reading the book (halfway through it)... truly amazing view into your dad's life. My most sincere sympathies to you on his early passing. His prowess at the game of poker has sure made a tremendous impact on the game as it is today. I have sent you an email to your contact address that was listed on CardPlayer. If you still follow this post, please reply if you get a chance. In either case, thank you for making the book possible, and thanks for passing on the memories of your dad to us, his greatest fans.
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hi folks,ive just read the book(the man behind the shades)the rise and fall of stuey (the kid) ungar, i realy enjoyed it, its very well written and a must for anybody interested in this facinating mans life and times.........andy in the uk
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Hello Everyone! I haven't wrote in a while. Thank you Alex for your kind words about me dad. Yeah, I really do still miss him. Some days are hard. But ALOT better than they use to be. I'm glad everyone likes the book. I happen to like it myself. Talk to you all soon! God Bless, Stefanie
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a great poker player, but a awful human being
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it's no fun without kent. hey vamp, u reckon if we talk nice bout him, he'll ome bk an chat to us?
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Its 2:00 in the moring and i just got done watching the High Roller movie. I play poker on poker stars.com and ordered his book and also recieved that tody. Im only threw the first couple off chapters, but i would recommend reading the book instead of watching the movie. I think the movie streched the truth way to much! Im excited to read the rest of the book! I have been a heavy drinker and gambler for a long time and can relate to mr. ungar. I also have a 5 year old daughter and im not with the mother because of my habbits, i think this book will help me a bit. Gambaling and drinking is a serious disease and without the right treatment you can loose it all, i have. I havent had a job in 5 years and am finacially stable, but money comes and goes. Your family is the important part i just hope my daughter will realize how much i love her and repect her when she gets older. Just remember, it takes a strong person to ask for help, and it takes a week one to not help!
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The other night of insomnia was a treat. ESPN broadcast the last WSOP that Stu won. It was great watching the legend at work. At the end, after beating everyone, after winning a million bucks, after becoming the first person to ever win 3 titles he made sure to let everyone know what was important to him. He held up a picture of his beloved daughter and gushed. It was pretty wonderful. Stef, if you're still reading this, you should feel wrapped in love forever.
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Stephanie, are there any plans to market your fathers name ie.. T-shirts, posters, etc.. i know you are not looking to profit from his death but i know that as a poker enthusiast i would purchase anything w/ your fathers name on it - i have all videos and books i can get my hands on
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mike matesow is the next Stu Ungar - MM is by far the greatest player in the game right now- he sees all the angles- Lasttwo ws main events played great just caught bad beats - with just a little self control he will put the poker world on its ear
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Dike Watacow---The next Stu? Yes Dike was the one who played in Brokeback Beats with Hellmouth and Gaymer. Maybe with a little self control he could show the poker world that he's really Queer.
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whatever. i read the book it was pretty tite that sux that in the end he was basically panhandling for some crack money, i didnt know it got that bad, oh well. still a person u could look up to in a way. whatever, like i said
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Unger was a weak puke, who couldn't control the drugs.Now everybody is trying to make a legend out of this piece of garbage, and feel sorry for him.His sucess came from him disrespecting himself, and thus not respecting anything or anyone else ($$$ inc-luded)............he wouldn't make it as well in todays field of more educated players, and fields ofhundreds and thousands of players.
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any updates on the new movie stef?
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stef, is it true ur father was an alcoholic, because i met him on 2 occasions, both in the mirage. and i never saw him touch a drop of alcohol
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nothing more to say then stu is the man i admire for his game and the way he love his family(daughter)my personal live have alot of simultane ups and downs i can only try to use his story to not end the same way he did ...to stefanie keep the good work going, nice job you father is proude off you be sure off it.and to all those who use this site to yak about who was the best....is that realy so important?he was a genius no doubt about that.
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The movie is still in the "Development phase" when I know more I'll be sure to tell you all. To answer your question if my dad was an alcoholic, he was not at all!! I never once in my life saw him drunk. Even when he was growing up he never did any drugs or drinking at all. Unfortunatly not all of us can say that. I know I've expermented growing up. But is his case he never had an intrest. It wasn't until his days of late night card games is when the drugs started. Hope you all are staying far away from all that kind of stuff. It's is hurting you alot more than you are realizing. Trust me. Stefanie
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