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Kings Suck
Bad beats, especially if you caught the guy bluffing, one time i had jacks full of kings, and my opponent catches a king of clubs on the river to make kings full of jacks, and i have actually considered slitting my own throat with that exact card!!!
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Tilt Master
Well I for one hate the bad beats....and they come all to often. I dont play pocket Jacks as hard as some.....to much out there to beat me. But I love to get big slick....he is my man!
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Hate to burst your bubble...
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How everybody thinks they are a shark!
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Blackhawk, you said you don't like how everybody thinks they are a shark. I think many will agree with me that these players (who think they're sharks, but aren't) are where the most money comes from. They always keep coming back, because they convince themselves they are always better, but unlucky. However, I must agree, that I HATE those players that talk at a table about pot odds and position plays that they made, using poker terminology to make others think they are good. These ppl are just annoying.
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you're better off acting as if you dont know how to play at all, the dumn ones are who I pay closer attention too, not the talkers.
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Who knows? You may actually have a better strategy that no one has heard of yet. If you do, please let me know. Also, I was commenting on the post from neo above, because he is obviously the type to take a lot of bad beats because he puts all of his chips in when he is only a slight favorite too many times. You can only win so many coinflips. I used to have the same problem. |
Players not involved in the pot telling thier cards before the hand is over. Either the plain tells, or the "oh damn!", when 555 comes on the board.
People underestimating the likelyhood of bad beats, especially all-iners. You get AA a 100 times, go all-in against bigger stacks everytime, you are certain to end up with nothing. "This site is rigged", apart from everything else, having a online poker site and rigging it, would be killing the goose that laid the golden egg if ever there was such a situation. |
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To tell u the truth my friend u r not a winning poker player if u cant beat "Nate" because if u cant beat an idiot like that then u r the idiot. Learn to play agressive players and stop complaining about it. According to your story "Nate" is just out playing the shit out of u. |
A bit harsh Unregistered but I take your point. Most people would kill to have a fish like 'Nate' playing at their table - occasionally he'll occasionally win a big pot from you by chasing down shit to the river but if you can't turn a serious profit against this chump then you need to look at your own game.
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Getting Bored and not paying attension. How many times I missed players that where still in and not paying attension to them.
Just cause your out, Does not mean you don't stop playing. |
Rigged Poker Sites
All the rigged online poker sites by far the most frustrating.
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Bad beats are part of poker. Some days I am the bug and some days I am the windshield. Whether online or live, poker is gambling. If you can consistently put someone on only HIGH cards, then that is the 'tell'. There are two ways to play poker - 1st, Win the Hand - 2nd, Win the Game/Money. The toughest thing in poker is to lay-down a perceived great hand when you know you've been 'sucked out'. There are a couple of chapters in Super System 2 that are excellent for understanding the 'new player'; the donkey who calls everything and wins some big pots by drawing out. If 'any two cards' is not your style of poker, then just learn to spot this type of player and avoid getting in hands with them, they will race you to the river more often than not. If you are in a cash game, pick your battles wisely - it's not just about your position, it's about who is 'in' or 'out' of the hand too. A lot of new players have never read any poker therory books, they don't know about 'position', preflop raises, etc... they just want to get their chips in the pot so they can 'maybe' pull it off.
I played in a cash game (at a casino) with a guy that absolutely irritated EVERYONE, even the dealer. He called every hand, he raised (pot builder) every hand. He was borderline rude to everyone and just a jerk of a person. But he knew what he was doing - he was pissing off the table so he could get people into pots to try and knock him off. He made more than 700 dollars in the 30 minutes I was at the table with him. He even took about 50 bucks from me (and I am a tight player). He made people at the table play his game, rather than playing their own. I sat out and watched for another 30 minutes, and he cracked AA, KK, QQ - at that point I couldn't watch the train-wreck anymore. Bottom line - bad beats suck, whether I am getting the beating or giving it. I try to be a good sport about it, say 'nice hand' and just make a mental note of who is a calling machine. |
I just joined this site and seems awesome. I cant get enough poker. I completely agree with the Administrator. Bad beats are part of the game and what goes around comes around. It's cold cards that kill you, especially when its only 4-6 handed, because you put in blinds every couple hands. That's why you gotta bluff :-) Btw i left a post in the Introduce yourself section concerning card dealing. If anyone is a professional or knows how/where to get employed/trained or whatever, please contact me.
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when you can not find a game win or lose its a good time if its not fixed and do not play poker online going to play some real poker tonight i wish me luck but good players do not need luck all we need are some good hands and ppl to think we are full of shi- well i am off to the game party long and hard live free or die
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Myself, ultimately. There are things generally that aggrevate players, but poker is perfect, its the players that need to change. If there were no bad beats noone would play you. If there were no calling stations that flopped flush would never get paid off. If there were no donkeys, everyone would lose money. The only thing that really stirs me up in poker is when i am out-played.
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MULTIPLE bad beats in a short amount of time
I understand perfectly that bad beats are exactly the reason we get paid - cause if they can't bad beat on us they'll never play. Moreover, a bad beat means it was +EV for us to start with. But...
4tables on Absolute Poker: AA PF 4bet raised and got shoved by KK, called, K came on the turn KK PF 3bet raised and got shoved by 99, called, K99 is the flop. go figure. hit 2 pairs on the flop, shoved on the turn got called by A2s no pair, flushed the river. hit nut str8 on the turn, got shoved by A8s no pair, called, flushed the river. All in a less than one hour stretch. When the first one happened, I laughed. The second one happened, I laughed even harder. Third one happened, I started steaming a little. By the fourth one, I had to take a break. Funny enough, I still managed to get up one BI for the day after 3 hours with no bad beats from me. Go figure fish are too plenty, so don't tap the aquarium no matter what. Suck it up like a man. |
The thing that aggravates me the most is making crafty plays against blind players.. and then not learn from the mistake. My biggest weakness in a game is realizing a player doesn't look at the texture of the flop. Just how it relates to his hand, you can't bluff that. I get angry with the player for making calls that he had no buisness calling, in my mind, to him he didn't even register my bet ponder on what I had, if it could beat his bottom pair. No he had a piece and he came to play. My aggravation is throwing good money after bad. Ends up ruining the whole session for me. The only thing that pisses me off more.... Two of these types on a table whipsawing the bet so fast that you lay your hand down, only to see q high win.
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The Worst for me is...
Ok, first, I agree with ALL of you, from the jerks at the table, like the nates, are a dime a dozen, to the inside draws that make it, not just for 20 bucks, but for your whole stack when you flop top set!! but the WORST FOR ME is.....
No matter how hard I study, read, play, watch, adapt, etc....... I find myself beating myself up, because if i "were that good" I should be able to lay down the hand when I KNOW im beat, odds or not, or KNOW when to get out, or KNOW NOT to SHOVE all in, because NATE WILL CALL and GET THERE!! AHHH!!! For me its hard to know when you do lay down big hands, when you haven't seen a single pair ALL NIGHT, but the pots been triple raised by the worst players in the worst positions.... So yes, the bad beats suck, bad calls by people with no odds, no implied odds, no outs but 2 and get there, yeah, i want to kick the table over and drag them outside, but I say Nice Hand and move on to the next hand (which I think, table etiquette is super important, especially at "Someone" elses home game!) But in the end, the desire to "Play Better" by putting in the effort, to lose to the hobbiest that doesn't care to get better, but just shoves, that does it for me... Yes, I still study :) Yes, I continue to read up on strategy; i still approach the game with class and etiquette and I of course, still host a home game, which "Nate" frequents.... It's the love of the game, the strategy, the wins, the moves, the big hands that hold up, the tournaments we win, the extras we can afford because of all of this...that is why we play; that is why we CONTINUE to play despite all the rest :) Good luck all, keep those emotions in check, and know that Nate make you look GREAT to your better half!! |
The rake.
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Things I hate the most! The things I love the most!
I hate everything about Poker!:mad:
I love everything about Poker!:) It is the sickest game on Earth and I can not get enough of it.:p |
When you've played hours on end of solid play to break through a vast field of players, you've taken the bad beats in your stride and finally make it to the final table, each step in prizes is worth $100's or $1000's.....and suddenly the turd of doom comes from nowhere! You've got to make that crucial decision between missing ten hands and all the blind stealing opportunities and potential tournament winning hands or crappi!ng your pants like a toddler and go for gold! Here's my salute to anyone who has shat themself going for glory! Your not alone!
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I play ,I think solid poker. I play in a league with freerolls Tu., Thurs., & Sats. & it brings out the DONKS FROM HELL. If you start playing like them in a points league, you let it drift into your subconsious. They you play a cash game & get the hell beat out of you. One key word is PATIENCE.
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True that. Patience is still the number 1 reason why winners win and gamblers lose! A lot has changed in the game in the last 6 years or so, but that one attribute stays key to victories.
It's SO easy to justify in your own mind that other players, who you recognize as being inferior, are the problem. When the truth is, 95% of the time you're not playing correctly against their particular style. Learn the players and be aggressive with huge hands and WIN WIN WIN! mike |
To me, at least sometime, it seems that I just can't get any better and that sucks. Could maybe anyone recommend me some books a beginner like me should read? Tried my luck with some of those [URL="http://www.pokertipsbook.com/"]poker online tips[/URL] but that didn't really help my game. I was thinking about ordering Hansen's book but not sure yet if it's worth it. Thanks in advance for your help.
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I agree with Mike Patience is the key for winning any game. Any number of changes can come and go but if one has this trait the odds are in your favor.
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If they are a calling station who are likely to call down if they've hit anything, then obviously a C-bet is less effective there as well.
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