JokerStars, not PokerStars. Many of my friends have signed up for accounts, but all have been smarter than me and have since removed their accounts. I am still on, fighting, in hopes that I will win big enough so that I can cash out happy. This site rips you off. There is no way in hell that you can lose to multiple full houses, straights, AND flushes...all in a single session. STAY AWAY from this site. Pacific Poker is a much better site if you are looking to make any real money. The players there are generally loose.

I agree with the people above when they say that the software is rigged to give people better flops. I'd have a better chance of winning the super7 then hitting 4 of a kind twice in one tourney. The rigging of this software is done so that poker stars can get more money going into the pot so the rake is higher thus giving them more money. Unfortunately, this isn't entirely accurate/realistic. A real downer :( I'll certainly never play for real money on poker stars, not with this software.

I am still skeptical about online poker in general and this includes pokerstars. I have won tourneys here which paid a few thousand dollars, but I have also seem some really crazy beats. Today I flopped nut flush just to lose big pot to 4 of kind on river, two hands later I flopped nut strait just to lose to full house on river and it was the same guy who won the pot both times. And those were just two hands. But they just happened to be the two biggest hands I played all day. Same thing happened day before had two straits both for 50+ dollar pots both cracked by river flush, both flushes caught by same player, but consisted of 4 flush cards on the board by time river came. also witnessed 4 of kind aces being beaten by royal flush. I like their software, and have been a loyal supporter so far, but this bad beats and lucky draws are starting to wear on me and make me wonder. When I first started playing alot I won alot. This is when I won tourneys and ring games. Now I cant seem to win much at all. Ohh I get a couple hundred dollars up then the bottom falls out. Just makes me wonder a bit. Not sure how much I am going to continue to play there or at any other online site for that matter. I have slacked off quite a bit lately and I am thinking of just keeping it live from now on.

i want to get into the tpokerstars game but i cant not because it says there is already a name in this game but i have never olayed this before and i want to my name is leai

I have only played at Party Poker so far. But was considering Poker Stars. The card dealing on all sites seems odd at times (Thats poker) but having measured it on Party Poker (Over 1,500 hands)it is about spot on with probability. None of the 4 aces losing to a royal flush nonsense. Only gripe about Party poker was paying up on affiliate accounts. Still owe me over $1,000 and making loads of excuses as to why not to release the money. (Your players have not given us enough money yet!) Any more stories on PP failing to pay up?

PokerStars, PartyPoker WHATEVER! They are painstakingly similar in just about all areas. I have played at both for a lengthy period now. To pick one as a favorite over the other would be bias. I play brick and mortar at a nearby casino in Niagara Falls, NY. It's only 25 minutes from my home. I have been playing Poker for years now. For all you numbers people, I am sure you'll agree with me on most of the following issues.1. Number of hands vs. number of badbeats. Of course you are going to see some strange calls, badbeats, all-ins and you're also going to win and lose in roller coaster fashion while playing Poker online, because online play is literally 10 times faster than brick and mortar. With that in mind and considering you see 10 times as many hands per hour of play, you are going to see many more "against all odds" plays. You will also witness more "badbeats" and more ignorant play. If you calculate TOTAL number of hands for both brick and online play you would arrive at the same outcome..2. Badbeats happen online, occurs at my Casino just the same! I was recently playing in a No Limit game, brick and mortar, I had pocket Aces, the game was low key, and I would rate it fairly loose. I am in late position, 3 players before me just call, (no signs of slow play) I have only the blinds to consider, I decide to make them pay to see the flop, I push to $300 to avoid getting caught slow playing myself. Small blind drops as do the other 3 shooters, Big Blind calls! OK, he is proud of his pocket pair, that's precisely what I want. Assuming all flush and straight draws properly removed themselves from the hand we see the flop. Comes Ace, Five, Seven (rainbow). I shove my remaining stack in, about $360, three rockets, wow I am counting the pot already. BB calls me! OK, I have a rich stubborn wanna be poker player that is playing pride not Poker! Fourth was a 2 and river was an 8. This so-called Poker player had a 4 6 off!! No misprint! A 4 6o! I had to stop counting "my" pot and relinquish it to BB on what has to be the worst "badbeat" in my Poker career! This guy yanked a straight out of the Poker Heavens! Wouldn't have been as painful if he would have made a full house with a medium pair but, 4 6o! Get outta town! Sure, he is ignorant in Poker, sure he will drop his bankroll, (probably the same day) but I had to take the hit at the moment. I had to go home and complain to the gambling god's, "why me"? My point, Badbeats are just that, Bad! I have never found any good in a badbeat yet. They can and will happen online and in brick and mortar just the same. 3. Rigging online; Not happening. Why would these (PS & PP) highly profitable online poker sites have to rig the play? Poker has taken this country and the entire free world for that matter by storm! They are certainly not hurting for players. They win no matter what you do! So why risk being evaluated by professional companies and being tagged as "rigged"? What does occur and "player beware" is the most basic cheating, player collusion and phone or Instant Messaging cheating. That happens at brick and mortar as well. Physical signals at brick and mortar are commonplace. I have complained to Pokerstars about player collusion in single table sits. They informed me of their state of the art software that detects the frequency of players playing together, above average. The query they could not respond to was, "phone collusion" and the ongoing Instant Messaging problem. That I'm afraid is up to the individual player to detect and duly note in the "player notes". There are high speed areas to cramp the cheats style, but I doubt that has any real effect on the outcome.Pokerstars or Partypoker. . . .pick your site. Stay focused, absorb the good with the bad, have confidence in your ability and shake off those badbeats, it's all part of the game! One word of advice, playing in large money rooms most definitely increases the probability of collusion, etc. Stay in smaller priced rooms and enjoy yourself. Don't quit your day jobs either! I can be yelled at, [email]PaulsGTO@adelphia.net[/email]

paul you are sooooooooooooooo right if poker players learned the game better they would be complaining lesswhat is your name in the poker site i don't want to play against u lol

i dont think its coincidence that poker stars players do well in major tourneys. they trust the software (as i do) which is so much better than partypoker. but the competition is very stiff. but i think its merely a testament to pokerstars quality that good players want to play here because they know theyre skill will be the deciding factor not some horrible suckout

fantastic comment paul. Everyone mistrusting the Pokerstars software is frustratet because he lost money to better players or just cant accept that bad luck is part of the game

Hi Guys Paul Again,As a gambler we all no doubt recognize and accept the "laws of average" factor.It cannot and will not be denied. I play Blackjack at a local casino. I usually play at the $25 minimumtable for hours at a time. I have seen dealers go on fantastic streaks of luck as well as players. Suddenly a reversal of fortunes surfaces and it goes vice versa. The same trends occur when I play in the casino's poker room, I can go an hour, sometimes more without getting involved in a hand, no viable pockets to even play loose with. While online I experience the same trends. I go bad and then suddenly I get a rush of winning pockets. As for the droughts occurring after money withdrawals from online poker rooms, it's just a coincidence. I would love to blame my droughts on rigged software. The other night there were over 80,000 players online at one time. Now just how in the world do you figure they singled you out? Out of the entire population of "players currently online" do you suppose any software can do that?!!!They can deliver weak pockets which I refer to as a "lags" because they delay your game as any good poker player will bide his time and wait, wait, wait and wait some more if need be for a viable hand.The community board may be a tad juiced as well, but then again it is going to lose for you and win for you in turn, as the "laws of average" kicks in again! Same thing at a Blackjack table when a player does the opposite move with his/her hand as he should and then the dealer instead of making a solid hand, BUSTS! Nobody wants to kick the lame player unless the dealer makes a 21. Same thing in online poker rooms. You seem to remember the "bad beats" more predominantly than the hands you committed the bad beat on yourself. Human nature, we are basically negative creatures. Some more than others, thus the constant complaining and finger pointing. A decent comparison for the online community boards would be looking back to when you were learning poker as a kid, remember when deuces were wild? That creates excitement and more possibilities for everyone's hand involved. Again, it works for you and against you within the guidelines of the "laws of average". It's how you play the winning hands that differs the winners from losers.Maximize your wins and minimize your losses. It's just that simple. Rigging? Yes. But not individual conspiracies! Well guys/gals that's the way I see it.

I have played at Party, UB and Stars. Stars and Party have equal numbers of good and bad players, but I notice the terrible plays being rewarded far more often on Stars. I played there for 7 months and will not be returning, though I did win two MTT's during my stay, I have to say that both times I was rewarded for bad decisions. I won't get into the rigging debate but I will say that I, personally, believe that something about this site is not on the level. I would highly recommend Party (just as many fish, but they are rewarded far less often in my experience) or Ultimate Bet (MTT's are even better than the overrated ones on Stars) but would not recommend PokerStars in any circumstance.

The randomness of the cards seems ok at Poker Stars, not like UltimateBet. Poker Stars is pretty stingy on their freerolls. They let thousands of players into them and only the top 9 finishers get an entryinto the next level. That's not good compared to other sites. One thing I really like about Poker Stars is that in Hold'em when playersare all in before the flop and no more betting is possible, the softwaredeals the flop AND THEN PAUSES. It's a short pause but it buildsexcitement because you can see what cards everyone needs. Some othersites that just flash the cards by in this situation can take A BIG HINT! I've done some programming and I'm shocked by the sites thatflash the cards onto the board, clear the board, and then pause witha blank table before the next hand. That's bad programming. It'smuch more realistic to do it like Poker Stars does and it makes the gamemore interesting. Come on Poker Stars, put some money in your freerollsyou cheapskates. Players will just use the money on your real moneytables anyway.

I not one to just jump out and give a perfect 10 to anyone except bo derrick. Pokerstars is the best online card room period. Regardless of what the yahoos above say negative about pokerstars being crooks. It is not true. Even though it is based in san jose, costa rica, the site is american owned and run. There is too much at stake. Too much money to be made to risk illegal alterations with the shuffeling algorythem software. It is very apparent to me that the above players speaking of crooked dealing have not played cards online very long. At 100 hands per hour online, compared to at best, 30 hands per hour in a brick and mortor room, it can seem to be very extreem highs and lows. Especially at fixed limit high-speed games. This magnifys the bad beats where i can relate to the thinking of the players saying these things. But believe me the other end of this spectrum is also magnifyed. A rush of good cards against your playing foes is a feeling like no other felt in poker. In fact it is impossible to experience this type of rush in a brick and mortor card room. Theres just to much time in between hands for it to be felt like an online card rush. Take it from me, an online professional cardplayer that has played real-money online poker over 100 hours per month since 1997, the site is 100% on the up and up, no crooks, no shady dealing; only the best tourneys and overall best cash game cardplayers anywere on the net today. I do have one thing that might help the sceptic newcomer to the recent online poker explosion. Read the book, "killer poker online”, crushing the internet game". By; john vorhaus. Also purchase and download a good realtime player tracking & analyalsis software program which runs along side your table window, constantly updating you with new information about your opponents play. The more you play against them the more precise and useful it becomes. It is always learning, but most important, unlike us it does not forget. Things like there loose/tight, aggressive/passive aspecks, there betting patterns and tendentcies, which games they normally play in and how much money they have won or lost, against you and overall. This is very very important, because it is impossible for your human brain to remember as well as a 250 gigabite computer hardrive. If you are serious about playing holdem online you will notice the information provided by these types of programs to be so good you will wonder how you ever won a single dime playing online before. It’s a fact that one or more of your current table opponents are using this valueable knowledge against you. You must level the playing field in order to win in the long run. We all know that poker is all about the long run. Yes, anyone can win for a session or two. But winning in the end is not luck! The informed skilled player with his fair share of luck will always come out on top. I don't want to provide the names of these software programs here as i am not an affiliate with any of them. But as of may 2005 there are three that i can recommend to you, depending on which site(s) you play. Just shoot me an email. I am not going to make a penny from them; i am just a promoeter for the good of the online game. I am not saying that there are not dishonest sites out there, because there are. But take it from this 40 year old texan, who has made well over 1 million dollars playing online poker over the last 5 years. Pokerstars is as honest as they come and in my opinion has no equal for there tourneys. Lots of different types, sizes and structures, and best of all, there high payout freerolls. Note: if you’re just starting out or new to the online game. I do not recommend that you play at pokerstars mid to higher limit games or you will regret it! The players are just that good. There are many sites with much softer, easyer to beat games out there. Remember this one little fact, even if you forget everything else that i have stated above. Knowledge of opponents play, table selection, and good mind & money management. You will get out of online poker only what hardwork you put into it. Good luck! Email: [email]jnies15@aol.com[/email]

Amazing bad beats only way to keep people from chasing a gut str8 draw and getting is 2 go all in on the flop. dont play limit games you will get chasers and probably lose. overall bad card engine.

It's funny how all people think about poker sites. I have just read UB review and then read PS. It's funny every site judging by reviews is most rigged:) in UB review everyone adviced to go to party or PS because UB is "MOST" rigged. here there are a lot of people telling to go to UB or Party because PS is most rigged. im sure that when ill read Party's review everyone there will be saying to go to UB or PS because Party is "Most" rigged:) its funny:) i play at PS a lot and now im loosing 4 months in a row i lost my bankroll...but still game is not rigged...i made a lot of mistakes last couple of months and suffered couple of bad beats...that happens on any site or at any casino...thats poker...you have to deal with it or not play at all...longstreak is all that counts...im up from playing poker i have my profit...i have a terrible loosing streak now but you have to deal with it...

just read Party's review and what do you think? yes it is the MOST rigged site and you should go and play on PS or UB or other sites which are ok but Party is all about cheating:) funny...:)

Guys, please stop this nonsense about rigged sites. The only (proven) way sites stole player's money is much simpler than making biased shuffle - PokerSpot was the most prominent example. I'm 100% sure that _none_ of the big rooms is intentionally rigged; as for Stars' - I had doubts about them at some point (after a bad beat streak obviously) and asked them to send me the whole history of my play there; when I've got it, I made all kinds of statistical analysis with it (and I have a degree in maths) - and came up with nothing beyond statistical expectations. So until somebody will provide a mathematical proof (rather than emotional "he got one-outer, it should NEVER happen, at least not to me") - I won't even consider such a possibility. Face it, guys - bad beats is an integral part of poker. And those who cannot deal with it, just should not play poker, ever - there are other ways to have fun in life.

Well guys i have played at UB mostly and i can tell you it's rigged!I'm a good player and i know my game is good but on UB i go on streaks but when my streak gets to good then i'll get nothing in cards or when i do get something i'll miss the flop everytime or when i do hit someone will hit harder etc .. Don't even mention the tournies, grr .. one player is favoured over the table and i see it always.. one player always hits no matter what while everyone else struggles not to mention building a stack here consistantly in near impossible! Then i can mention heads up play, lol what a joke! Some days i just hit, hit, hit everything that i feal sorry for my opponent then other days it gets reversed where i can't even hit the board hardly like maybe 20% with all 5 cards out while my opponent hits 90% of the time, wtf!?? and not only that he keeps hitting trips, flushes, straights etc constantly and this is heads up!??!! while i'm struggling to even get a pair!!! Just before i'm playing heads up and some guy got and i bs you not 7 pocket pairs in 10 hands while i get 2-7o etc constantly.Now how does this relate to poker stars you say. Well everything i said for UB is the opposite at stars. Sure you'll take a beat or 2 but the card distribution is normal! so is the flop! The site is well designed and overall i have nothing but praise for stars. Good players are rewarded here and suckers are not. No wonder a few people here say stars is crap etc .. I think in reality they suck because me personally, my good play is overall rewarded here and i think it's fairly easy to make money here.On UB though, forget it. The cards come out biased to the point where you will win then lose then win then lose that you can never get ahead and thats fine because i learnt my lesson! and my lesson at other sites as well! Poker stars is the only site if your a good player PERIOD!

pokerstars is the shiznit!!!!!!!

I can't get a simple payout of $200 from them... been over 2 months, the service personal are rude, basically daring me o sue them.... anyone else?

I may bore you guys with my diatribe, but here goes. I've played internet poker for about 3 years now, and I think in terms of hi/lo limit games, variety of tourneys, Pokerstars is the best I've come across. And, as far as freerolls go, what do you expect? Something for nothing? The reason you have to beat 3000 to 4000 people in those is that it is geared towards cheapskates, with the hope they may invest REAL money in the future. As far as the sites I've frequented, Ultimate Bet would rank as the worst due to 3 people regularly FLOPPING flushes, or the CONSTANT AA vs. KK matchup. But in terms of all the poker sites I've played at, they ALL have some things in common: They want the BAD players to keep coming back, since that is their cash cow. As for decent players, which I consider myself, they are a lot harder to permanently drive off, since they have experienced some sort of success in the past. And at all these sites, my success usually comes IMMEDIATELY after I open an account, just to give me a taste of winning quick cash. And even though I believe bad beats happen almost as much in LIVE play, I DON'T believe that any computer program is completely random. The goal of any business is to make as much money as possible, even if it means bending the rules a bit. And EVERY computer program is made by man, and man is inherently greedy. That's why I ask regular LIVE Blackjack players if they would play the same money on internet BJ, and they almost always say NO! Internet poker follows the same premise: Even though you are competing against other players, the house is ALWAYS looking for the best way to maximize its profits. And if this means letting new players win early, letting bad players regularly outdraw you, then I have come to accept this. On a conluding note, 2 of the biggest problems I have with Pokerstars is that first, it is hard to win BIG pots back-to-back (seems like the hand after I win a big pot, I get "set up" with the 2nd best hand) And secondly, if the UNDERDOG makes a "bad" play with a big raise, he gets rewarded more than he should with a big pot. Hope this write-up helps. BTW, if you chat with someone or read an article from someone that has NOT played internet poker ("pro" poker writer John Vorhaus comes to mind), and he offers his analysis (good or bad) on internet poker, pay NO attention. They are commenting on something they have NEVER experienced. Good luck at the tables, so long as it's not at my table.

I couldn't agree with Riverwarrior's post about UB more. He is definitely right about UB being bogus. Pokerstars is a great site. Good play is rewarded. Unlike on UB where, like he said, somedays' heads up I struggle just to make a pair, and other days i can't not pair up. It is ridiculous. Stick to Pokerstars...still the best site out there. Anyone who complains about Pokerstars truly does not know how to play because this is just about the one and only site where i do not feel that i am being cheated!!

Well I've been playing poker online and off for a very long time now and my review on pokerstars goes as follows. As far as choice, games and graphics POKERSTARS is excellent! However if you like throwing your money into a flaming barrel to keep the pretty light going then by all means go with pokerstars. In all the time I've been playing poker I've never ever ever seen such bad beats. 4 of a kind comes up on the SAME table, 3 count it 3 times in (estimated) 20-30 min. I'm no odds expert but this is high, I know it, my buddies know it and so does anybody who has played poker long enough to recongnize this. Houston or Big Slick gets baited by fish hooks...once in a while yeah okay, sure. Not (again estimated) 5/6 out of 8/9 times. American Airlines (AA) is almost guaranteed to lose which is in no way correct. IE: I get (9h Ah)a flush ace high from the flop = kh 10h jh...BB and SB have already called my excrutiating blind raise and after the flop I raise again...SB folds BB re-raises he has 8s8d...i think he has a flush too but lower.Then tells me before the turn quote "the tides are about to turn" ???????????????????? dealer, turn brings 8c I go All in... he calls. I see his trips unworried by his assanine comments since I had the flush and he had trips. The river brings js.????????????? Now this guy has a big bank roll so he can't all out just suck right? So what made this guy call my huge blind raise and post flop raise with 88 and with a flush draw on the board??? A lot of foolish people with 1 thought going at a time might say your a bad poker player or you just seen too many hands to tell anymore. People will say now why would a 353 million dollar company with a 10 billion dollar IPO cheat it's players? Simple, why does a 400 million dollar casino rig their machines. ----> To STAY IN THE RED. They do not want to be slightly up or even. <------------- Counting the rakes from all the games and sign up fees for tourneys exceeds only by a minimal of what they spend weekly or monthly on site fees. The remainders goto checks/cashouts/payouts. Where's their money? I'll tell you! The more tourneys that finish quickly the more money they make so they have to give out better flops and cards. Cash tables, because you have an "unbeatable" hand the site knows you'll bet high. If everybody folds the rake is not as sweet. The more people with hands to contend with the hand you hold means a bigger rake of course. A large portion of pokerstars high stakes/low stakes game players are aphiliated with pokerstars in one way or another. Also there is no complaints against winholdem users as of date???? Why does every other site scan for this and not PS??? Do not get mad at this entry, do not discredit what I say simply because you have not shared my experience(s), and please do not throw a "your playing with better players on pokerstars". If anything the no limit tables should be avoided at all costs. I can also say with assurance pokerstars has the biggest ensamble of fish I've ever seen. Not just fishing for 1 pair but their second all the way to the river with zero or 1 outs betting extremely high for the cards they hold. No staight draw, No flush draw...pure fishing. You will find this VERY common on all tables from .01/.02 centers to the .50/1$ tables. Often you will hear players talk like they know what you have. Some even go as far as telling you an intricate hand and what you hold just shy of telling you the suit or suits to avoid reporting them or getting really suspicious. Like I said I've been playing pretty dam* long here there and everywhere. NOWHERE NOWHERE NOWHERE have I seen such extraordinary beats, calls with cards that won't win but do...like 8-3OS. Truely I find this site a joke...party poker coming in second and Empire poker not even falling in the same categories, since I feel my time there was more REASONABLE on the beats I took and gave. ;) I could go on forever with my findings however I'll just hear a bunch of, your crazies, you suck at poker that's why, or whatever clever minds can brew up in latter times. All I'm trying to do is stimulate the minds of those who will not come to terms with online poker having it's "secrets". IT DOES. It's kind of the same thing as being ignorant to 100 billion galaxies estimated in the universe. We live in ONE galaxy 9 planets, and someone is going to convince me that we are the only living beings in our ENTIRE universe. People there is 99 billion other galaxies besides ours. Never thought of it like that did you? Then think a little more with and through your experience and education of the game when playing it to determine what's just not sitting right and when you get bad beat "fairly". Really start to observe. Don't just look for bad beats because you lost. I'm not out to destroy pokerstars nor will i with a little web entry. However the more people that look for this, the better chance of finding solid exploit(s) to stand up in court. Believe it or not the crime of casino theft wheter internal or external is enforced by the RICO statutations set forth by the federal government. However Online gambling this does not hold true FOR NOW.

Can anyone direct me to a site that doesn't cheat? I'd be happy to play when the house doesn't stack it. Hell I'm a programmer..I'll write my own if these pricks can't be fair

I can only give this a 6 rating b/c i havent played other sites. I have read just about every one of the post above. Some of you make sense and some of you wouldn't know if a garbage truck crashed into your living room. I can not comment on the whole "cheating," and "rigged," flops. I've seen some wild ones. I have been beaten with crap and i've dominated the playing field with crap. I win just about as much as i lose. These bad beats happen everywhere. My pocket aces have been slaughterd by pocket 4's or nines for example. The other day im playing in a casino in louisiana. my hand 2s-4s. my opponents hand 5s-10s. the flop is Ad.3s.5d. i flopped the nut straight. the other guy flopped a pair. i bet big, he calls, the turn is 9s. this time i bet bigger knowing that for the moment i still have the best hand. he calls, the river is another spade. now i have the nut flush which i didnt care for. i was happy with the straight. nothing on the board could beat the straight until the spade came out on the river. i check on the river and so does he. he turns over his flush which was better than mine, but not by much. i asked him why i he kept calling, he tells me he thought i was bluffing. after losing most of my chips on that hand i play a few more until i decide that i have to make a move. i go all-in with 9d-3d. the other guy had KK. i catch a 3 on the flop and one on the turn so beat his KK with a set of 3's.9-3 is never an all-in hand suited or not. in fact it should never even get to see the flop unless your limping in on BB or SB. i lost 900k in one hand on pokerstars the other day only to have my Kc.8c beat by Ac.Jc."FLUSH" it was a huge hit. Crazy thing is...im just as likely to get beat by that flush on any other gambling site there is. One really cool thing that i like about PS are the 40k tables. of course PS didnt make the 100/200 tables to be played this way. Their many number of fans came up with a few ways to win enormous amounts of play money chips. the "rules" on a 40k table are as follows. you buy-in with 40k, after being dealt your hole cards, you have two options. Bet your whole 40k pre-flop or fold. sounds simple enough right? well it is. Not a whole lot of skill involved just pure luck. you either hit or you dont. i was suprised to see so many pots get taken down with a high card ace or king, and you can lose 500k in 10 minutes or win a million in 10. Ive done it both. i've only been playing on PS for about 4 months, and it is great. however, there are some extremely bad players also. you would think that after earning enough chips to never have to sit back down at a 5/10 table, the players would have got better, and for the most part they have. but some of these people resort to buying play money chips with real money. and playing on the 100/200 and winning by chasing and making bogus calls. so much for having to earn your way to the million plus club. im going to wrap this up now. if your interested in getting in contact with me. my unprofessional e-mail address is [email]jeff.jcjones1108@gmail.com[/email]. thanx and good luck to everyone

I don't know what the fuss is about. Pokerstars works well. These ppl complaining about 4 of a kinds popping up regularly? I've been playing on here for quite some time, and I hardly see 4 of a kinds. And I see ppl with low pairs or high card. The ppl who complain don't understand odds, and get upset by a bad beat. Bad beats are bound to happen here and there. With so many ppl playing on the site, you are bound to come across ppl who play against the odds. Learn to accept it and move on. In the long run, the good players will make money. But of course, poker is like sex... everyone thinks they are good at it, when in fact, most ppl aren't. That's my 2 cents. Later.

In one tourney ($1.20 buy in) a player got pocket aces three times in a row.... the odds of this occurring are approximately 10.7 million to one. In the same tourney, a player got quad aces one hand and quad queens the next hand.... the odds of this occuring are about 17 million to one. The odds of it occurring in the same tourney are about 20 trillion to one. I have seen 7 Royal Flushes in about one year of playing... Difficult to calculate the odds of that, but to the best of my calculations, I would need to play 24 hours per day for one year, at a nine person table, with all nine players playing every hand all the way to the river in order to see 7 Royal Flushes. Yes, bad beats are bound to happen here and there, but there is something about PokerStars that is not right.... So, if you want to give you money to this site, go ahead, but after it is gone, remember that you were warned. I deposited $50.00, and I am sorry that I did.

odds you flop full house to your opponents 4 of a kind: (assuming you both ALREADY have a pocket pair, which is, being generous about a 1 in 10 odds you are up against an opponent where you both have pocket pair)His/her odds: Pocket Pair to hit quads on the flop, 3 cards to come, 2 outs then 1 out, 2 / 50 * 1 / 49, .08% 1 in 1250Your odds: Pocket Pair to hit full house (paired board and you hit trips) 3 cards to come, one has to be your card 2 / 50 * 1(any card) * 3/48(that other card to pair on the board), .24% 1 in 416I did some rounding but those numbers are fairly accurate, at least within .1% which is enough to prove my point...now odds you hit BOTH of those at the same time (you vs them) is 0.08 * 0.24 = 0.0192 = 1 in 5100 hands or so.that means that 1 out of every 5100 times you and your opponent heads up have pocket pairs preflop, one of you hits quads and one of you hits a full house... 1 in 5100 * 1 in 10 (for hitting pairs preflop against your opponent), 1 in 51000... I've played about 28000 hands on pokerstars in 8 months (2 hours a night, one table sometimes two, 60 hands an hour, assuming I play EVERY day for 8 months, I didn't).so I havent even seen enough hands to warrant seeing that combination going by the probabilities... but low and behold, I see it at least once a night on my table, sometimes two...I could go and talk about all the other ridiculous flops to raise rakes, but I wont... that site is rigging the flops... but to be fair, it rigs it randomly towards any players, so if you always play the same, and never go all in, you can be a break even player with some luck.it is however possible to see the bad beats coming, and just always fold all big hands and make small bluffs (thats how I see people making money online) and that is actually a valid real life strategy too on very tight tables. but from what I've seen, they are definitely rigging action flops. good luck all on that site.

Well either Pokerstars is rigged or somebody has a hold of a cheat sheet (maybe a spreadsheet file of games and the winning hands...that's always been a strong rumor). I don't buy the whole 'bad luck' thing that others are saying. These are the people who have 'good luck', so they're not objective to what others are going through. I've lost too many good or at least satisfactory hands against the bad beat players who go in with squat and end up with the chips (or money on the real money tables). There is no cure against them. I tell the truth in poker...I play my cards. It works for me at the casino, but it doesn't work online (especially on the free tables) because there's nothing to lose. On the free money tables, people can lie all they want and at the end of the day, even if they've lost, they still have that Porsche in their front yard. There aren't many players (at least smart players) that will do the same at the casino. Anyway, my point is that liars are more popular today than ever before. Just check out reality TV or the government (I won't say which one, but take a guess). Pokerstars rewards liars. I rate it a 2 only because it allows you to transfer chips to other players. Whenever I win something (which is rare because you guessed it, the liars usually win or at least get lucky on the turn and river), I send my chips over to my dad or my mom. They like playing Pokerstars more than I do, but then again, they both have no problem with lying. I guess the casino's different because its controlled (not all-in) and it doesn't have a cheat system which I'm sure Pokerstars has (no other way to explain those who always win. Nobody's that lucky).

Well, I believe I have to throw my 2 cents in as well. I must be honest, I have read these reviews many times for many different sites, I was never going to post anything myself but after the last month has gone I must steer anyone clear who is thinking of putting any money into online poker! I deposited $25 one night to test Pokerstars out...(be it, this is after I have gotten reamed multiple times by Party Poker)...and I made $300 the first 2 days! I mean I was placing money everywhere...if I was in a sit & go, i got to top 3 no problem! Just playing good solid poker seemed to be working on pokerstars, I made as much in 2 days as i would make a 5 or 6 at work..so I was happy for the time being. That's when it got ridiculous, and for anyone who says "people who say online poker is rigged are sore losers"....I would love for you to sit at a table with me for one night and see what I see! Take this hand for example, and my only conclusion from this is that this guy is either a total retard when it comes to poker or he knew what was coming....anyway I get dealt KK on the button, I raised 4x the big blind preflop and was called by the big blind, flop is K-9-4, I dont slow play trips so I raise about the size of the pot...so after I raise 4x the big blind and bet the pot on the flop, my opponent comes over the top all in...at this point i'm loving it...so I call the cards flip...just to recap...I have KK - flop - K-9-4 opponent comes over the top...I REPEAT over the top all-in and shows A10, I was cracking up, but not for long, guess what boys and girls turn Q river Jto give him a str8...now I ask, either this fool was tired or he knew what was up, either way i'm tired of watching internet poker sites reward bad play so my play has moved to my casino where I dont have to battle with a B.S. computer that wants as much rake as possible. I used to read these msg's all the time hoping to find a legitimate poker site but I want everyone reading this to know that there is no legit poker site, they are all there to make money plain and simple...and they can kiss my A** becuase they will never see another dime of mine...PEACE

oh yeah, this little tidbit as well, after the guy goes all in with nothing, I asked him what the hell he was doing, his reply is "I was priced in", seriously, he has $1300, calls a $120 raise preflop and he's priced in....ROFL

GREAT SITE!!!!! Very realistic Cards

It doesnt have enough chips per hour and people get to many unrealistic card to often

sorry i forgot to tell you all that i was talking about pokerstars if anyone finds a better site to play poker for fun and for cash please tell me

I played at party poker for about a year, hit it big (for me at least) in March of this year. I won $8100 in a span of 2 weeks, cashed out and then began too see the most unbeleivable bad beats ever. So after months of giving my winnings back, I signed up at Poker Stars(about 2 weeks ago). I deposited $50 and in my first hour at the .5/1 NL table I was up to $250. In the next week i was up another $100 and had the original $50 up to $350+. It was so relieving to see good cards hold up, as on Party I would almost always get my money in with the best hand but would lose to some ridicolous beats. So last Friday night I withdrew $50 and it has been all down hill. I kid you not, in a 2 night span I was dealt pocket pairs 22 times, and not once did I hit a set--on all 5 community cards. That seems abit unreal, being stats say you hit a set 20% of the time when holding pockets. Anyways, I am now down to $94 in my account and I am curious to see if this withdraw curse is for real on Stars as well as Party.

I won $500 off a 100 deposit the first day I played. I was absolutely clueless. Naturally I lost it all and then some.I've got very good since then - 6 months ago. I rarely make mistakes now if at all, though I'm no master at stealing blinds, or sniffing trips or whatever psychic insight you need for 'the edge'.In these past 6 months, I've had 2 good days and god knows how much I've pissed away the rest of the time.I'll only talk about Pstars - Party Poker was so bad, on 3 occassions I've gone 80+ hands without seeing a pair on a flop!In poker stars last sunday for example, I played in about 15 tournaments, and in 4 of them I went 30-40 hands without a winner. Of those tournaments, my game ended all but twice when I went all in with the best hand, in most of those cases after the flop, and was sucked out. Action flops for sure. My favorite personal anomalie - pair of 4s, 4 consecutive hands. some math wizard want to give me the odds on that?as for the quads though - one table i saw quads 8 times in a couple of hours (held them 2x myself). but I haven't seen them since, in weeks.those statistical anomalies can indicate a bad random number generator, not necessarily a fixed game. However, the action flops, the % of river winners, seems absurd. While I can't guarantee it's fixed (could be that I'm just the unluckiest guy in the world), I do want address the 'anti-conspiracy theorists' who argue why would they rig it when they make money off the rake?my god that is so ludicrous - why do people steal cheat and lie period, instead of being happy with what they go? why make a billion when you can make a million? get a brain. Gambling is an addiction, and they know people will keep coming back, especially seeing how often bad players are rewarded. 'maybe it's rigged, but next time i'll play so perfect I'll get paid'.How would you go about it? I would embed logic that tracks players by every means possible - IPs, bank acct numbers, and most of all frequency of deposits - and select losers to drain on a continual basis. Throw em a bone once in a while, keep em coming. This isn't wild conspiracy - it's the way con jobs have worked forever. Particularly in the gambling world. That said, i'm stupid enough to keep trying. play your worst and take my money on pokerstars!

Here's something to think about when you're wondering if PokerStars (or any online pokerroom, for that matter) is "rigged". Think back to when you first signed up for PokerStars (or whatever room). Weren't your hands great? Didn't you feel like Poker God? Have you noticed that all the poker rooms have VERY STRICT policies about existing players altering their accounts in any way whatsoever for any reason? I wonder if maybe that's not a "rule" because the sites are slanted in order to get their hooks really deep into new players before they suck them dry.

I have been to many site's and PokerStars.Com is the best all around On-Line.

For all you that complain about one account, Its to stop peeps from chip dumping to others or to there self. Your IP is matched to your account name to stop this. Any site that allows this is asking for thiefs.

As for the so called bad or good FLOPS, I ran the numbers from the history reports. They are as close to real as you can get.

As for the fish. You just have to deal with them like any other site. They could have a advantage in the beginning, Cause they have never been at a real table, they learn quicker to read players habits. But they have no idea of odds, So they lose in the long term. Like someone said your going to see more Flushs, Straights and Full house's cause they stay to the end which gives the preception of the River card being fixed.


Give it a 9

i have played on 10 poker sites i rate this the best one by a mile.

i take it back i have had aq last ten times every time someone has ak every time i havent hit a queen once,then i get ak vs aj he hits jack on theriver no one ever play online for real money biggest joke online call with rubbish u hit joke.