Well is anyone going to actually go and offically prove it? Possibility is all we got. Proving the possibility is enough for most people to be cautious.

No one will prove it - all that will do is just prove to the 70% of poker players that lose money that they are losers and not being scammed. Those 70% would rather live in their comfortable world of excuses and be portrayed as victims. And the 30% who are winners don't want to scare thr fish away by opening the losers' eyes to their own incompetence.

Look kkeily I know that some people win money time after time online. As I have seen the vast majority of these players are nothing short of terrible and will get killed in brick and mortar card games. I myself can never seem to get over the "hump" online. I win for a time and then I lose it all in one night to stupid bad beats. I will tell you I have never lost money in a no limit holdem cash game in a casino, so I have some idea how to play which is tight as hell. I don't play any different online than in a casino and rarelly see over 20% of flops and hardely ever limp into a pot and yet I can't seem to win online. That being said I don't know if the websites are cheating are not. They will get the money through the rake regardless of who wins the pot, but you have to admit that bad players do seem to win more online than they do at a live game. I don't think that it is out of the question to think that these sights reward terrible play to keep the bad players around. We will never be able to prove that the sights are "cheating" if that is what you want to call it. They will however stop at nothing to maximize their profits by any means. If that means "helping" terrible players win so they stick around I don't think that is unthinkable.

<< We will never be able to prove that the sights are "cheating" >>

Of course we will. Do a statistical analysis of millions of hands looking at all possible variables (pre-flop/flop/turn/river,chip stacks,age of accounts, etc). Why do you phrase your opinions as if they are facts - "You have to admit online poker is fixed . . " "We will never be able to prove it . . " Do you really think that ALL online poker is fixed? there are like 50 decent poker sites out there now. How do you explain that one? Let me guess - the online losers who never make money just happen to pick the only sites that are fixed. What a coincidence.

just now
 

okey dokey. first...I do not believe in poker scamming even though I know there are poker odds calculator software out there and I get really really heated when the odds land absolutely ridiculously. It happens...I know...astronomical odds....but over and over and over...that is astronomical in itself. At paradise poker I played a simple 5-1 sit down. I don't expect pros at this table nor to a claim to be one. However, this situation just drew its wild attention to me. latter in the tourney about the 50 100 level I got pocket 5s mid posit....I called and it went round to the small blind.. I was sitting at about 1300 and he at 400. He went all in as most people do so i figured him on ak, aq, aj, or some combo of ace something. so i raised. I do admit this was a bad move...he happened to have kk and took the pot. I accepted my loss. however, my very last hand was at the 250-500 level, 4 people left. I got 55 again. so I took my chances and called hoping the others would too. nope...the guy in early raised me all in. i thought a second and said...well should I make the same mistake and call all in 55...well I made that same mistake and called thinking the same ace something. guess what he had? kk. those odds are so laughable. need I say more?

Test the Play
 

Ok.
Let’s look at how a poker site should work. Random cards turned over to random players, whatever the level of the players. If this was the case, most good players would play multi tables and clean up, so like the Irish waters and Spanish fishermen, all the fish would dry up. How long would it last? So a set of prot ocols are set in place, thus preventing players robbing the fish. We have all seen players calling anything with anything and hitting every time, I would guess he is on the lowest proto col. I’m sure we played the odds, 22 outs before the river and the one cards Mr X needs hits. Poker is about the player not the cards, online poker is much the same it’s about betting patterns, but even this, you will be stung, most poker games are monitored, so no cheating or collusion can take place. So I would image they can change your proto col very quickly giving the impression of a staff member sitting at a table. In saying that, I have played on tables were I am in the last 4 and 3 players soft play but attack every move I make, and it paying off all the time. (Its like they knew what cards I had).
What I would like to know is if a rich man plays $100 games like I play $1 games, but he is really bad and I can hold my own, what happens to the prot ocol level when I work my way up to that level.

Nemo

Imagine an employee of one of these poker sites came out and said it was rigged! Almost every and all poker sites would lose instant traffic, the pros that support them would take a big hit to their credibility, and the industry would fall apart. You never hear about the people who make money saying that the sites are rigged. Online play is a lot more loose. you see a hell of a lot more flops in a much shorter period of time. Those 2 items combined equal a lot more bad beats than you would see in a live game. you wanna see some crazy hands people call with goto highstakespokerreport.com or something like that. its a fulltilt site that tells you about money won and lost at the high stakes tables. crazy