this site is a joke only bad players who go for straight draws or flush draws always win u lose aa to k10 flop was a 2 7 all in called hit runner runner what a joke this site is rigged whe u have king high flush always fold someone always has ace high flush happen to me 10 times in one day

if u start to complain on the chat u lose every hand

"if u start to complain on the chat u lose every hand"

you really think that?

I have played a dozen sites and rate this as 5. While consistently turning a profit at other sites I lost at this site. It is fun sitting with Phil and Howard until you realize you are losing your pants to millionaire poker pros. Payouts take weeks instead of days.

this week i have played on fulltiltpoker i had aq about 7 times i raise someone calls flop comes ace everytime and go all in everytime someone had ak everytime and i didnt hit a queen once never play on this site terrible.

It does seem rigged.
 

I play poker every night for about 3 hours. I do quite well on almost all the sites except for this one. I joined the real money at Full Tilt because I felt that this site was credible, boy was I mistaken. I had never experienced so many bad beats in my life! I am talking I had an Ace high flush, someone DRAWS a full house on the turn and river after going all in for BIG money. I have KK, someone goes all in, I call, she has QQ. Guess what happened next! You get the idea, The bigger the pots, the worse the beats and I am talking premium hands here.

After a couple of weeks and a couple hundred hours, I still had this same impression. I no longer play for cash here, nor will I.

I hope this helps someone else. Try to find a fair game elsewhere

Ok here are some of my experiences, make your own observation. I signed up on may 10th with 125 and made 1300 in 3 days(!) then all of a sudden I lost it all. On the following monday, I think the 10th was a wednesday, I was busted down to 75. The sunday after the 10th, I lost with AA 5 times IN A ROW to underpair all in preflop. I then sat with my whole bankroll on two tables, and in 3 hours was up over 600. Im sorry but that in itself is very uncommon. Anyway i decide Im done for the night I close one table and on another table, one that I had opened for 50 and now had 380, i click stand up and it says you cant while involved in a hand. I get dealt qq. Now, i had been getting dead cards almost an hour straight, and I SWEAR i get better cards if I try to leave my seat, consistenly. So I get QQ in the sb, it gets folded to the button who smooth calls(the players name is The Company no less his avatar is some white guy) and I raise to 8, a HUGE raise, to get him off so i can go to sleep. He smooth calls! The flop 242. I pot it and he smooth calls again, the turn brings a queen, i move all in for all my money and he calls, and shows 27OS. There is not a player in the world who will call that raise with 27os. So i have him drawing to one out in the deck, and he fucking hits it on the river for quads?!?!?! Thats not a bad play, he knew it was coming. I have a mind for patterns, and I'm very good at seeing them, and I kid you not, REPEATEDLY i lose big pots when im ahead, in casino play and homegames if Im the favorite moving all in my win percentage is naturally about 60%, online if I have the best hand I win maybe 10% if that. I REPEATEDLY lose the big pots and get my bankroll drained, only to then get some crazy win streak and make tons in an hour or two. Last saturday I won like 300 in like 20 minutes. ANother hand I flopped a set of jacks, and banged all in, I hit a boat and some guy hit runner runner straight flush. Also very often I get the exact same whole cards on multiple tables at once, i mean the exact same cards the exact same time, it happens very often and I would assume that means the system is purposely giving YOU what it wants or is programmed to, I do NOT think the cards are random at all. Just mo. Oh yeah one more thing, I have witnessed bad beat tables, about 2 days ago i was on a table and about 5 times in a row I saw an underpair hit a set and crack an overpair, I got kk and went up agaisnt AA which in a 6 handed game is pretty uncommon, i flopped a set, i had jacks a shortstack had 88 i raise he bangs all in i call he hits a set, i saw kings crack aces again and 99 beat 1010 and had it. Numbers dont lie and neither do I, if you're 20% then you're 20%, for these underpair to keep winning again and again is against the math of poker.-

hell yes these sites are rigged
 

ilove the argument that if your being cheated its because your a shitty player, and no u dont see the same bad beat in a casino, and the argument that there are more hands being delt so your going to see more crazy stuff is utterly rediculis, what does the amount of hands being delt have to do with the way the cards fall at KEY, times? the ones not claiming cheat are the ones that are calling all ins with 8-3 off and beating a-k all the time, hell ive won with bs hands and said oh thats not right, also how do online site support players going like 0-100 with pocket prs hitting the set, every site has there own little quirks like party poker is the flush capital of the planet ultimate bet is the st capital poker stars is the 2 pr capital and full tilt is the bad beat capital, for years ive went site to site to site looking for a fair game and have yet to find one, now y do i think online is rigged well here is my reasons, first anybody else noticed that on any tourny table the table chip leader ALWAYS seems to hit just what he needs at key times, also if a chip leader makes a very stupid move like calling an all in with an obvious st or fl on board and loses then the very next hand is delt a-a or k-k or a-k and they always hold up, also on limit games what is up with the im almost out of money all in with any 2 cards win, is this to keep the player in and rakes coming?? and theres alot more but im done for now

This site is the Bad Beat Mecca of all time.
 

I log between 3-5 hours of poker per night and am I semi-professional player meaning that I supplement my income playing online poker. I can consistently make money at the other sites but boy is this site crazy. After playing at full tilt for a couple of hundred hours, I can't agree more that this is the bad beat capitol. I have seen flops where 6 players go all in and they have AA KK QQ AK etc. ALL at the same time! It's absolutely insane. Then usually, the lower pairs crack the higher pairs for some crazy pot. I can have AAA on this site and not feel safe. I once had four of a kind TWICE within two hands. Do the math on that one. Oh yeah, then someone else caught Four of a kind about ten minutes later. I guess someone will just bash this thread and say that I am complaining but I hope this helps to steer some newbies away and get a "fair" game somewhere els.

I don't doubt your post but where would the fair play sites be??

thanx
 

So glad I found this thread. I'm actually up 300K play chips at fulltilt. But the deals are so unlikely that i'll probably need to relearn the game. I consistently play rag-rag flush draws and win. I'm almost scared to go all-in on 4 of a kind, which I have seen as my own hand way too many times. An earlier poster was absolutely right, 4-of-a-kind gets beat by a another player's straight flush more than half the time. And I've seen way too many of each. By contrast, I've logged way more hours on a PC poker game and never seen a straight flush come up. Aces get cracked by small pairs far more often than they stand up. I'm not sure people are cheating. This site just encourages players to stay in until the river. Somebody's miracle card will be waiting there.

I'll find another site and start again. Any suggestions? I wouldn't want to put money on the table with the "skills" I've gained at fulltilt.

play the way you play now but play micro-limit games - they should be the same as play money

I love playing on this site for play chips as a warm up to playing at the real casinos since im a pro player. I have played at about 5 different poker sites and found that they all have about the same degree of improbability. I was playing on this site one night recently and saw 3 quad hands 3 times in a row. to put that into perspective, the odds of that happening are close to impossible (for real table games). basically in order to win consistantly on any online poker site you have to have an adjusted style of play (usually the worst hand going in wins so you have to play every hand with extreme caution) which is why i will probably never put another dime into another online site. the negatives of online play outweigh the positives. negatives are 1)limited time to make decisions 2) limit on what you want to put into the account and withdraw 3)collusion happens all the time 4) you can be disconnected if using a wireless network too frequently costing you money (many times i had the nuts on the flop but was folded due to my connection being lost and that always seemed to happen when i had a definite winning hand) 5) action happens really quick so you will most likely lose full concentration after playing only 20 min basically putting you on tilt unless you have an immense amount of patience and concentration. live table games go much slower so for instance i can play all day until i am extremely tired without losing any focus on my reads or calculations. online poker is something that is currently being looked into for outlawing and i hope that happens so all of you online players can join me at the real games ( online players are so easy to spot at the table and they are the easiest to win against due to that altered play i talked about :) so please everyone that happens to read this, please play in the real games. i have mouths to feed :P

I too have noticed when playing two tables at FullTilt that I will often get the same hands at the same time on both tables. I don't know what the deal is with this, but I have taken all my money out it seems a bit fishy.

lsutygr
 

You make great points about all online poker sites. I'm with you I hope they outlaw all of them and soon. I've broken about even as far as playing for money goes. But far too many times my all ins have been called on draws and gut shot straights. Even when I've been 87% to win preflop I've lost at least half of those hands. All sites are similiar bad play is rewarded. But this does help live play IMMENSELY! The last three times I've been to the local casino I've raked in the dough. I don't play high stakes (100 dollar buy in no limit table) But I cashed out $660 bucks in about 3 hours. I couldn't believe the amount of fish at the table. Playing cards like Q2 suited and J4. One hand I flopped quads and bet a little after the flop and the turn hoping the 2 callers caught, with an ace of spades on the river on had a flush and one had a str8. I won about $200 in that hand alone lol. Internet poker has definitely helped my cash in live games more than ever. I thank them for that!

Rigged!!!
 

THE OTHER COMMENTS HAVE PROBABLY CONVINCED YOU BUT WHAT HAPPENED TO ME WAS CRAZY.
YOU WONT BELIEVE THIS - ALTHOUGH KNOWING THIS SITE YOU WILL.

MY FIRST AND LAST HAND ON THIS SITE FOR PLAY MONEY -
I WENT ALL IN WITH As Ac - 6 PEOPLE CALL
OTHER HANDS:
10h Jh
Ks Kc
Qs Qc
Js 10s
Jc 10c
Jd 10d
9h 8h
Kd Qd
9 PEOPLE ON THE TABLE, EVERYONE IS ALL IN
FLOP:
Ah Kh Ad
HEY, I GOT FOUR ACES WOW! FIRST HAND ON THE SITE!
TURN:
Qh
IT'S MINE :)
RIVER:
2c
WAIT HE HAS A ROYAL FLUSH! NO WAY!

IF THAT'S NOT RIGGED I DONT KNOW WHAT IS...THAT'S THE CRAZIEST THING IVE EVER SEEN, THAT WAS THE ONLY HAND I EVER PLAYED ON THAT WEB SITE, IT FREAKED ME OUT SO BAD! MY FRIEND WOULDN'T BELIEVE ME WHEN I TOLD HIM ABOUT THE CRAZY HAND BUT I FOUND OUT YOU COULD PULL UP YOUR HANDS SO I SHOWED HIM IT... I WILL NEVER PLAY ON THAT WEBSITE EVER AGAIN.

If it is your last hand on that site then you should still be able to pull it up. Pull it up and post a screenshot here.

full tilt rigged
 

I play poker seriously to make money. I figured that the software is rigged and will speculate on why that is. On full tilt table, there is an autopost blinds button. When people are ready to leave the table and quit for the night, they usually uncheck this option. Over months of playing on this website, i have figured out that i get way above average hands way too often after this button is unchecked. Twice in one day when a friend was watching me play, i told him about this. After i was ending both sessions that i played that day, the hand immediately after i unchecked the "Autopost Blinds" button i was dealt pocket kings. Just today i also called it out. I told my friend this and the very next hand i was dealt AK suited. Of course this doesn't happen everytime, but it happes FAR TOO OFTEN. Why would anyone want to play at a site where this is the case? It will happen to you when someone else is ready to leave.

full tilt is rigged
 

i have played poker for about two years now. im a good player who only plays solid cards i hardly ever bluff. because i only play quality hands. all sites are rigged but this is the worst by far. its true, if you play at two different tables you do get the same cards, and have you ever noticed after a hand, the next hand you will be dealt the winning hand. at least i do. it was so bad tonight. that i was calling out peoples cards at table. if your in a cash game, and you get 10s-kks fold them everytime. i have lost 400.00 tonight in the same scenario someone always had a higher pair everytime. and i lost twice with aces against 3s or 4s. it makes me so sick to watch this happen. This is how you know when ur playing on a rigged site. 1)when you know ur beat and you got pocket kings before the flop. ur getting the same cards over and over again. tonight i wrote down how many hands in a row i had a 2 rag. 22 hands in a row, and im not lieing either, 22 hands in a row i was dealt a 2. its unreal and unfair. what i cant understand is why havent some high stakes players complained, because only rich people can settle this dispute in court not the average class people. i hope you all never play on this site again. oh and if you do and u happen to win a tourney, they want let you withdraw the money for up to 2 weeks. please take my advise never play on this site again.

rigged beyond belief
 

The site sends out rollercoaster cards. The idea is to get you rollercoaster high and on tilt. Do not play ring games they have their own players. I have met two on other sites that have acknowledged themselves when I see them in fulltiltpoker ring games. They bankroll players at all limits give 15% and take 85% and guess who comes out on top at any ring game. These two people who I met long ago on Cryptologic network say the same thing certain hands hit over and over. K/7 and j/4 dominate. I have seen it. I have talked to fulltilt support and they roundabout deny it. The only players that win are the ones they choose. And their players change names once a month. Just play any limit and you will see winners disapear never to be seen again. Hmmm they win all the time but never come back, hmmmmmm.

I have had bad beat after bad beat. I finally just won. Know how? I pulled all my money out of full tilt. I have played many sites, and this has been, by FAR, the worst.

BY FAR!

i found this site just looking for answers, and after reading some of the comments and actually having 90% of that stuff happening to me.. its funny. ive spent 125 dollars american so prolly close too 200 dollars canadian on party poker. and ive lost it all, but to add to that. my very first hand i was delt pocket 10s on full tilt. i hit 4 of a kind on the flop. sum other dude had the same situation happen to him. how is that not rigged? haha, and since ive turned 19 ive gone to my local casino 2 times with less then 300 dollars on me and walked out with 700 and 500 more in my pocket... its just not worth it, but it seems so crazy. i buy in for 20 bucks, within a couple hours im up 2 100 bucks, within 2 hands im back down to 20 bucks.. king high flush on the flop. guy goes all in for 40 bucks, i call. blank on the turn, diamond on the river, buddy has the ace. i flop a straight with QJ board was 8 9 10, one guy all in with j 7 another guy all in with ace k. guess what the next to cards were.. Q J.. oh and this was at a 10 seated table, no seats open... now how fishy is that? what are the odds.. somebody get me a calculator.

it's all about your attitude
 

this is the first thread where every post I've read is wrong... guys you're only looking at one side of it. Of course bad beats and suckouts happen everywhere, live and online... it's part of the game. I think you have to be pessimistic to believe that sites are rigged, because they're not. You have to lose before you get good enough to be a winner and make fewer mistakes.... and online poker should never be outlawed, that's a horrible statement... that's like wishing someone to get in a car accident, cmon guys.

i thought fulltilt was the best site i played but last two months about 100 bad beats and i put no bad beats on anyone,i had 10 10 flop was 10,a,8 he went allin i called he had aj turn card jack river ace sick,then 24 hourslater flop set of 10s agaisnt king high and hit runner runner straight both real money then i play fake money aces vs kings vs queens and donk flops a queen every time this site gives me bad beats real or fake money dont worry i give up on this site only pokerstars now joke site fulltilt only gd thing about it is phil ivey plays there and u can chat to him.

...and I thought they were just impressions!
apart from the usual bad beats (AA loses its statistical power repeteadly on this site) I found much of what is written here absolutely correct and very much applyable to my situation on full tilt poker.
At first I thought I was just reacting as a bad loser to bad beats but then I just got curious and started studying what was going on...and fortunately I got suspicious BEFORE I put my money on the site!
If you play in real tounaments (real people sitting in front of you) just compare what happens on the site to what happens in real life.
i've seen more more quads on the site in one week than in all my life in real poker!
but the best was this:

4 people left in a tournament, 2 are playing the hand:
seat one raises
seat two re-raises
seat one calls

flop is 44J

seat one goes all in
seat two calls

so they show the cards and seat one proudly shows pocket 4s! alright: quads! way to go!
and seat two only has pocket 10s!
now seat one has 99.90% of winning and seat two has 0.10%! bye bye seat two!

but not so fast...turn card: a 10!
but hey, not that bad, seat one...you still have 97.73% chance of winning so relax!
unless the river card is...
(you can guess it..)
with a 2.27% of being there: another 10!

wow: that was unreal. but it's not over yet...
NEXT HAND (3 players left) goes as follows:

ME: QQ, I raise..bad move, the guy on seat two calls, seat three folds.
flop is Q 10 8

no problem for me: I go all in! worst move ever.

seat two shows: J 3 (how can you call a raise with that?)
well, turns out to be the best call ever since, despite my 95% percent of winning,

turn card is a nice ace,
river card is a nice K.

ok..straight. happens, (not too often but it happens)
bye bye to me.

THE VERY NEXT HAND: 2 players left

seat two: A J
seat three: Q K

flop is: K A Q

everybody all in.

now, who would YOU bet your money on hitting a FULL HOUSE?
if your answer was seat three, well I don't know how to tell you this but...you lost everything.

turn: J
river: A

end of the tourney. seat two wins.
and the things written on the previous posts about the "hot seat" start to make sense to me.

As Ah losing PREFLOP to 5c 5s
with a board with four clubs sitting there. science fiction? nope: I learned it can happen. On full tilt poker.

KK vs 99?
be sure a nine is coming out. OFTEN.
On full tilt poker.

DON'T GIVE THEM YOUR MONEY!
(or go see for youself...)

This is from the FTP forums about it being rigged it's not so many bad players in USA
"I've said this a 100 times and maybe more to people Full tilt offers action in live poker the % of hitting a pair is %16 on the flop in FTP the chance is almost doubled maybe 3x that the site provides action that can lead 2 two things, Shakey Players and Gimps being busted.

I've tilted so bad so many times because of the players on this site and yet another pay cheque down the drain.

If Online poker is a clue to do something with your life it better be writing the software to realise there's 52 cards not 100.

Almost an ace always hits the board in every headsup situation and AK vs AJ - K 10 Q will always hit it's happened to me about a 1000 times and im furious ive given up on poker and players like jamie gold make me glad that he beat all the so "called" pros its a crap game that is all luck based.

Full tilt is an Action Giver
 

It's awesome i always represent middle pair or Highest card on the board but i play with hands like 4-5 4/10 / j/6 it pays off too play these on FTP they are really good against AK / AA.

ive given so many bad beats to people ive gone all in with $350 in a 10/20$ game and CHris ferguson sat in watched me hit a set with 4/9 - 4 4 a [ i raised all in guy called with just a lazy ace ] i beat him and he said ftp was rigged its not the style i use is playing with cards people dont use and if alot of people fold u can bet that they have one of the cards you need too bad beat them.

oh yeh i work for ftp as well i sit in on the ring games and play people its fun but the job is hard and i only work in china.

Full tilt is moving back to the united states by next year. Anyways i put a bad beat on a friend tonight he said hey im unlucky i said ya and showed him my 4/10 he had Cowboys to my Full house :(

Ever since the U.S. government banned banks and so forth from allowing money to be transferred to online casinos and poker sites my ability to win anything has became almost none existent. I went from around a 60% win rate before Jan. 2007 to barely 20%. I made my first deposit of $50 back in May 2006 and played on the winnings until this year. I've since dropped almost $500 and am down to $38. I'm not that aggressive of a player and normally only play cards above 10's or pairs. So, in a way I am a kind of tight player. Sad thing is, in reality this strategy works well for me but here lately on full tilt I’m better off doing the opposite. I have to bluff a lot now on here just to win some chips to keep me afloat between the extremely long run of crappy cards I get. I hate that crap. I love playing poker live with real people but I live in Indianapolis and the casino's are some distance away along with the state cracking down on poker clubs and home games. So I have to play online to fill my desires. To top things off I'm on a Mac so Full Tilt is the only place I can go to play for money. Poker Room used to be Mac compatible but not anymore. Poker Room is worse then Full Tilt though. I'm still wondering how a straight beat my full house and another time my quad 7's were beat by a full house. After that one I pulled and headed for the door never to return. Anyway, looks like I’m stuck in an abusive relationship with Full Tilt. Funny things I just won a $1.25 sit & go by playing crappy cards. lol oh well...that's poker. Isn't it? They didn't pick the name Full Tilt for nothing! Should be called Bad Bet Poker!

Ive played on this website for a long time,It is not rigged,Your all just a bunch of Weak lil crybabies,waa ,waa I went all in on my A-A And it lost to 3 deuces waa waa its rigged!! lmao

after reading all the comments here... I found alot of people sharing similar experiences. before making any comments, i want to share some info about myself. i am a phd stduent studying computer science and mathematics in one of top ten graduate school in US. i have played online poker for almost 2 years. i usually play 8-10 tables at the same time. the stakes i regularly played are: 1/2,2/4,3/6,5/10/,10/20 ring games as well as SNG and tournaments. i knew the importance of bankroll management and bad run etc. i am not trying to be cocky when i say i am a phd math student. my point is when i play multiple-tables, i found patterns. to make things short, say i saw people with 4,4 hit a set on one table, i immediately knew if i got 4,4 on aother table within next minute or so, i am guaranteed to hit a set (at least it's a winnig hand)too etc. i am not devoting time to describe all the patterns i found. i am not even trying to convince other people. i am plainly sharing some of my conclusions with people who want to listen. as some of you know, a couple of grad students cracked the random generator on planetpoker or soemthing back then, they know every single one's hand as well as what's coming out next on the flop. there're always people telling me about statistical variance etc (including alot of my friends), but i found out those words usually come out of people who have little understanding of mathematics and programming. maybe those words make one sounds really cool??(sorry being sarcastic). i am absolutely convinced the hands are rigged online based on teh pattern i found. i can't even count how many hands have i played over the 2 yrs span. think about it, 8-10 tables at the same time, on average 4 hrs a day, 365x2 days... people might ask: ' if u are so smart, knowing about the pattern, how can you not making any money?' let me tell you, the turn and river are dynamic, if you push all in with your best hands before turn, they can easily **** you up on turn and river. i tried to play smart, if i knew a hand is setup for me, even if i have the best hand on flop, but i still have to fold it if other push me all in b/c they will hit runner runner... if this situation happen alot, you lose alot of money folding those hands. to make it easy to understand, say i got AA preflop, i reraise someone to 16 times BB, and they called with 4,5 suited, and upon seeing the flop, i immediately knew i am dead, then what should i do? if im conscious and not on tilt, i have to fold, see you lost 16 times BB during this process. they keep the bad beat often enough, so that you can't really make any money... have u wondered who won the big tournament on pokerstar sunday millions etc? they are fake players, bots deployed by their own site to gain profit...have u seen those player playing alot on the site? ask yourself. enuf said, i am shocked at alot of people are ignorant enough to play online, especially people with no knowledge defending the site all the time using "big words" statistical variance...etc... send me an email at [email]mountain_dew_dew@hotmail.com[/email] if you want to discuss about this... the only reason i would ever want to waste my time to write this post is for the good of others...

this site is such fuckin bullshit i swear to god.. every time a play a tourny i put, money in as favoret and get sucked off..dont play hear bots all ocer the fuckin site ripin u off.....i swear i put money in as 90 persent favorite 87 times and lost 69 times..fuckin cockscukers cheetin and shit dont play on this godddamn bs site.. ft can blow my ass

For The Past 4 Days I've Logged Way Too Many Hours On Here, And Here Is Why You Can Consider Digitally Generated Poker Cards "rigged". It's Not Like Some Little Guy Is Picking Cards Trying To Screw You Over ... It's How High The Software Has Set The Probabilities For Certain On-board Card Situations. Think About It ... How Many Times Have You Seen 3 To 5 Same Suites On The Board, 3 To 4 Ordered Cards, Or On-board Pairs? The Probabilities For These Situations Have Been Jacked Up Unrealistically High To Promote The Uncommon Hands Of Flushes, Straights, And Full-houses. That Simple. That's Why Everyone's Pocket Aces Are Getting Bad Beaten On The Flop From Cheap Garbage Cards Catching Flushes And Straights. Never Play For Real Money Except With Real, Physical Cards Folks.

After reading a majority of the posts flaming online poker sites for allegedly rigging the site i believe its safe to say that many of you lack any kind of common sense. Look at the amount of money poker sites make already (tourney buy ins, pot dividends, etc.) and think to yourselves why they would have any kind of motive to rig the cards. This goes especially for the bumbling idiots posting comments about how they think the play money tables at FTP are rigged. I can't believe the amount of ignorance in this thread. Have any of you ever taken into consideration that you are taking so many bad beats because you are seeing so many more hands per hour than you normally would in any live game. Part of me even wants to say that the reason for all of this is the imbeciles that don't realize how much quicker you are making decisions than you are in live games. Some of you just need to stop blaming your donk play on rigged cards because it has happened to me before where my quads have been beat by a straight flush in a live game. Bad beats are a HUGE aspect of poker and so if you can't deal with them you might as well know now that you're always going to be a terrible player.

1. A-a Never Wins
2. Gutshot And Runner Runner Always Hits
3. Straight Flushes And Quads And Royal Flushes Galore
4.will Be Up A Couple Hundred Play The Exact Same Way And Lose Everything
5 6-3 And 7-2 Beat K-k And Q-q All The Time.


Bottom Line The Worst Hand Always Wins On This Site. Unless Playing Good Starting Hands Like I Do Is The Wrong Way To Play Poker. Hand Like A-a K-k Q-q J-j A-k A-q These Are What I See Lose All The Time On This Garbage Site. Ive Played Thousands Of Hands Online And Thousands Of Hands In Casino's Completly Different.

To all you aspiring poker players i feel your pain , we were all hypnotized by full tilt marketing sceams , dreams of making it big the simple glimpse of hope that if you play well and solid enough you will make it ,like all these pros ,well my friends you never had a chance all this time you thought you were being treated fair you were getting stuffed like a turkey , ive seen my share of aces cracked , people calling reraises with crap like q 9
and destroying your kk or aces it is not coincidence, mathematicaly speaking you can lose with kings or aces 1 out of 10 or 1 out of 9 times , in full tilt you will lose with aces or kings at least 7 out of 10 times now matematically that is impossible in a real game , how could the best read before the turn punish you and on the turn you are drawing dead! bad luck
it can happen . But when you get unlucky everyday like me by playing the best hand making the best read and most of the time making the best decision , it is not coincidence but at that point i still was naive enough to think i might have been too loose now yesterday was the pinaccle of my frustration with this site i get aces in early position i raise before the flop 3 times the big blind, i get one caller flop comes 4 ,k,q im always nerveous with aces because of my past experience so i go all in on the flop i dont wanna slow play my opponent he calls with a nothing but a pair of qs he had qj , i tought that this guy must have been drunk because his call made no sence with k on the board so i am clearly at least 10 to 1 at this point river comes with j my opponent had q s and jacks , now i lost half my bank i recomposed my self and continued playing intrigued by this guy who i tought the way he was playing shoud go broke very soon , not even 5 minutes after this hand i get aces i raise twice the big blind another guy reraises 3 times my raise the drunk guy that felted me before calls flop comes 495, i go all in again the guy that raised me folded and my drunken friend called instantly with a pair of 9s he is holding q9 i have aces turn comes k ,river is a 9. Catch my drift lose with aces once in a night possible ,lose twice with aces in less then 5 minutes there is definetly something going on , i beleive that player or robot what ever this ass%*%*& was he knew what flop was going to come he knew i had aces he knew that flop was going to be in his favor , im not sure if all on line poker is rigged i play regularly on pokerroom i have noticed that alote of my hands that i would fold would end up on the flop strange ? , but i have been winning regularly at pokerroom and at my home games also played in casinos i noticed at least 90 % less suck outs on the river , i heard some bad things about pokerstars one of my friends friend works at pokerstars in marketing she claimes pokerstars boost flops and player hands to create faster action and more dramatic action means more rake money, the bigger the pot the bigger the rake , like when ever you have kowboys someone will wake up with aces that creates alote of big pots .
in conclusion all you poker junkies lucky enough to live near a casino stop asking your self why your losing on line and go play a real live game even though the casino rake is very high you will be amazed at how well you do in a real game instead of on line , in my city montreal canada there is no poker at the casino so i will have to settle with underground games . stop playing at full tilt hope these fuckers go bankrupt and that someone can come up with legal proof that these games are rigged. Oh and a message to karrotsticks you probably work for full tilt , but if you dont i would like to know your name at full tilt i would play you heads up for about a 1000 $ see who is a donk if you are not working for these fuckers than you are probably too green to understand what im talking about and will need at least a good 1 or two years of playing poker at full tilt to know what you are talking about , there is no law for online poker how can it be regulated it is not controled by the governement the head offices ar all in costa rica or europe and you think that rake money is enough why settle for a million a day when you can make 10 millions a day , i am successful in poker but not at full tilt why ???? go play a cash game for 3 hours real money now not play money you ll see good players go broke there .

After reading these posts--WHILE actually playing full tilt poker--I've decided to immediately pull out all my money. I've lost about 90 dollars so far, ALL on bad beats. While reading these posts, here is the situation. I'm on my blind with K7 hearts. Played two has 82 hearts, and playing three has Ah/5c. The flop is three hearts. I've got a flush, player two has a flush, and player three has a pair of fives. Everyoen goes all in. Of course, already having my bad experiences with bad beats I'm assuming another heart is going to come out and give player three his Ace high flush. Afterall, how many people would take such a huge risk on a pair of fives and a flush draw? But, no. Another heart would be too simple for full tilt. The board is something like 5h/Qh/4h. The turn is a queen. No big deal, right? That is, until the river pops up with another queen. Please, someone tell me the odds of hitting runner runner queens? Of course, I can never have an AQ without someone else having an AK. It is an impossible task. It has nothing to do with the quality of players. I accept that bad beats happen, but not 95% of the time. Real people, with their money on the line, don't make such reckless, stupid moves. I've never been beat by J3 so many times in a row. Anyway, I'm done with that BS site. ^_^ I'm free!!!

I have never played full tilt, but was thinking about it.. thans for pursuading me not to. I have played party poker for over a year and have found out that indeed it i cheating me. Now I dont men the site is making money from me.. et etc like some people think, BUT i know it is cheating ME.

Now there are some people who read these posts and say.. yeah what a load of rubbish etc etc. Well listen to what I have to say. I have tracked 9 months of hands. Thats a lot of hands. In fact thats over 42000.

By using poker software I have gathered every all-in situation I have been in and calculated the odds that I would win. On AVERAGE over my many hands, I was 58% favourite. I actually only won 48% Now I know to some people this wont sound alot but actually I play sit and gos, and have worked out that this has cost me nearly $3000. So instead of me losing $1200 as I have done, I should in fact be in profit by $1800.

Now next, looking at my hands, I am unlucky, but not by much. Althought I recieved Q,6 nearly THREE TIMES more than I did A,K. I had less A,A Q,Q and J,J then I should have, but had kings more than I should.

Also, the number of times I HIT anythin on the flop was 1 in every 4.02 times. Which is far worse than I should have.

I welcome anyone with a good number of records to tell us what you found. Thanks.

I have read all the posts on this page and I too, maybe the biggest sucker of them all. But Karrotsticks going my blood boiling. Not because he is completely wrong, but partially. Firstly, let me say that I am in full agreement that anyone who says the play money tables are rigged should be taken behind the barn and shot. You'd have to be an idiot to think that. That being said, I just started playing online 2 weeks ago for money. I have been playing poker at casinos for the past two years. By no means am I a pro, but I'm a pretty good player. I've made some money. (Again, I play 1-2 NL and usually win a few hundred bucks if I bring a few hundred). I CANNOT TELL YOU HOW MANY TIMES FTP has screwed me over on bad beats. Like others on this page stated, it's almost as if without a locked up Ace high flush with no chance for anyone to beat you, you EXPECT that the system will give you a bad beat. I have lost over $3000 in the past two weeks. Indeed I have become an addict and probably need help, but that is besides the point. I don't play wrecklessly. My theory is that some players are FTP plants and they can possibly see the cards or they play with the house's money. I've been beat almost every time I get pocket AA with a river card. No matter what, everytime I go all in, even with the best hand by far, I lose. EVERYTIME! It simply cannot be the case to have the kind of results that have occurred over and over again. Tonight, after dropping another $300, I vowed to myself never to play on that site again. If Amazon.com can track what other types of music you might be interested in based on previous things you have browsed for, my guess is the FTP knows when they have a sucker and rigs the cards to suck that person dry especially if they know that person will continue to dump money in. My advise to everyone I can share this information with is to STAY AWAY from FTP unless you want to play 10 cent poker and are ok with losing $50 over a weeks time or so or winning a few bucks, but there is absolutely no question in my mind that your chances of losing money on FTP are much greater than doing so playing in a casino....(and it has very little to do with reading people's body language at the level that I play at)

I found this forum/site by searching for "full tilt rigged" in my search engine. So as you have probably guessed I've been burned by Full Tilt in a suspicious way more than once. There are some things I wanted to bring up. On one hand, there are some of you that complain about going all in preflop with a premium pocket pair and losing to a higher pair very often. At the same time, the same person complains about going in with a higher pocket pair against a lower pair and losing to a set. While I've seen my share of both on this site, making both of these arguments in the same breath does not make sense to me. Also, people compare playing multiple tables (or even one table) online to playing live games. Live games move significantly slower than even 1 online table, which means you will see a larger number of hands and of course an increased number of bad beats or improbable combinations. I have probably played over a million hands of online poker on multiple sites over the last few years. There is no cardroom player that can make a similar claim in their lifetime without playing online. So as much as they think they've seen, their sample is not really relevant. On the other hand, I've suffered a lot on this site due to bad beats and am too scared to go all in with the nuts on the flop because I have a feeling my opponent will improve to beat me on the turn and river. This is the feeling that brought me to reading this forum. I play mostly $2/$4, but also have a scale of limits according to my bankroll - so I do drop down to lower limits. I have tried all limits below 2/4 out of curiousity for a period of time as well. There is an alarming number of bad beats that happen on this site, where your opponents happen to his improbably draws to beat you. I've tested this with really small limits .05/.10 to .25/.5 by playing recklessly hoping for underpairs to turn sets and for improbable gutshot draws or runner runner flushes to hit. Although I was not turning a profit this way, I was able to stay alive for a pretty long time. The way it worked is, I would consistently lose pot after pot until I hit a huge improbably draw and took a huge pot, winning back most of my bankroll (in each case with my opponent complaining about how rigged the site is). What I learned is, there is likely no bots or players on the inside. However, I think there is something wrong with the card generator. I notice it because I feel a difference from all of the other sites (and I'm not saying the others are fully honest). The problem I have is that I am torn between and I try to prove and disprove this theory all of the time. Some of the crazy stories however, can really be explained by chance. One of my early home cash games, I flopped a pair with 52o on a 972 flop. I was bet into from early position and bluff-raised, I was put all in and called the bet against a friend of mine who flipped over 99. I then caught 2 on turn and last 2 on river to beat him. Two hands later I caught a Royal Flush - which is unheard of in a home cash game! Two weeks ago I hit 4 of 6 lottery numbers twice in one week. You can get a calculator and count the odds, but sometimes things happen. I would really be interested in comparing Full Tilt's poker tracker stats to those of other sites to see if there is variation in frequency of the different events in question.