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I have to agree with the cashoutsyndrome. Played with Party for about 4 months and when I reached 4K I cashed out. Wow, did my luck change. I had heard about this problem before but simply didnt belive it. Its to much of an random thing that I would go on a badbeat run after my cashout. Another weird thing is I noticed that a player was doing really strange moves and hit close to 100% of his hands. So one day I was sitting down at the same table as him and within a few hands I got KK and we ended up going allin preflop. He had the 2 and 3 of diamonds. And yes he hit his flush. Thats when I left Party forever.
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This site is rigged. Lost $100 in two days due to people chasing and hitting the river. BS site. I'll never play PartyPoker again.
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WOW. TERRIBLE. That about sums it up. I got $50 from some website to play on it, didn't have to deposit a dime! Anyways, it is shady as all hell! Got 2 straight flushes in an SNG once...statistically speaking that is almost ZERO. Got beat on SO MANY outstanding hands by shotty players it wasn't even funny. If you are going to play PP, stick to the SNG's, they seem a lot more legit than cash games. I got over $100 after being down for a while, and cashed out! Lesson learned, and over $100 for nothing. DO NOT PLAY PARTYPOKER, go to PokerStars.
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To jlwallnutz: First point – You said you’ve been playing 26 months, and what, that makes your opinion better and more believable than anyone else’s? I’ve been playing for years and so you’ll forgive me if I trust my own experiences over yours.Second point –Here’s the correlation between PP possibly rigging the games and Enron (and stay with me here, cause this is where it gets tricky) – both are (were) making tons of money, and no one knew they were on the take until it was too late. People like you think “why in the world would they be cheating, they make more than enough money,” yet it happens everyday. There is no such thing as “enough” money. It’s called greed and human nature. Your statement about gambling being an addiction and all it takes is one large win for people to keep coming back again and again, lends credibility to what some people on this site have said about their games going downhill after their cash-outs. And no, I don’t cry foul at the casino when I get dealt a bad beat, and that’s due to a number of reasons, most of which have to do with the fact that I can see the cards being dealt and I can see the other players at the table and know they’re real people and not some programming code built in to take my money.As for them not needing to because they make so much money just like real casinos, we’re talking about poker. The house only makes money off of the rake, buy-ins for tourneys and interest on your money that is sitting in their account. At a live casino, they have BJ, craps, slots, etc. That’s where they make their killing. Look online or talk to a casino host and ask where the majority of their money comes from and they’ll tell you it’s the slots. These games all have a very high house advantage, and THAT’s why the casinos offer them and that’s where they make their money. Ask them what they make off of their poker games, and they’ll laugh. If poker was soooooo profitable for the real casinos, they would have 90% of their floor space dedicated to poker tables. But they don’t, do they? They have a little corner room with 20 odd tables in it. Why is that? It’s because poker is not a profitable game for the casinos. More and more they are offering more games cause the demand is so high right now, but that’s all they’ll ever do cause there are lots more games out there that are more profitable and that have a house advantage. But an online site where no one knows what is going on and would never think to question the fairness or randomness of the games? That could be very profitable indeed. Casinos have to pay employees to deal the hands, bring drinks, floor people to watch the games and deal with disputes, security people, etc. etc. etc. And what does an online site have? A program code and some people to deposit money in the bank.I don’t know if you think your stats on your third point are impressive, but I won more than that over the course of a five day tournament spree in October, at a live casino, so it’s not particularly impressive to me.“Why would they rig the game?” My answer is, and always will be, when that question is asked - because they can. Whether or not they do is still to be seen, but they can. Period. If you’ve never experienced anything you think is shady, more power to you. But I won’t play at a site I’m not comfortable with, and will continue to play in live games where I can see what’s going on.As some people have discussed above, I’d just like to add my own version to why PP would reward bad players: good players will make money and cash out, taking money out of the system. Poor players will win just enough to stay even or a little above, and not take their money out of the system. PP works just like a bank in that every second they have your money, they are making money off of it. But why would they do that? I can’t fathom.
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Okay skippy, Here's the math.If party poker increases their take on a .5/$1.00 table by just 50 cents per hand, times 40 hands an hour (very low for internet play),Times 200 tables = 4000.00 AN HOUR (note: over the last weekend, there were 250+ holdem tables in play and that doesn't include the $1/$2 tables which are just as bad). Which is a mere $96000.00 PER DAY which is $35,040,000.00 a year. No way anyone would cheat for a mere $35 million dollars. The beauty: bad players play in low limit games. Good players play at the higher limits which probably aren't rigged cause if the big boys start bitchin, stuff happens.Oh and for KEEP_BITCHIN. Every poker author makes it a point to mention that it is, in fact, the fish who contribute the money the pro poker players live on. These authors (check it out for yourself: Sklansky, Malmuth, Jones, Burton et al) then make note of a special breed of idiot that thinks it's his responsibility to point out to the mistakes the fish keep making. This has 2 effects: it pisses off the fish and/or they get smarter, or quit playing. The "player" the pros don't want at their table is KEEP_BITCHIN. But then, I am guessing he/she already knows this.
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Here's an interesting theory. Over 133 sessions of at least 50 hands per session, there was nearly always one player at the table playing everything and betting a lot. I gleaned this info from poker tracker.Question for the pros: Why would these players play 70% of their hands, take them nearly all the way to the showdown, and then fold. Further, these players have an interesting quirk that they check and then either call or fold so that they seldom show their hands. I have only encountered this style of play on a regular basis at party poker's lower limt tables. Nothing like this at Ultimate bet or poker room.
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I have tried everthing on Party Poker & sometime i win, sometimes i lose. I have tried aggressive play based on above comments - i doesn't work. I have tried tight (which is my game ) it doesn't work. Play what you are dealt as you see it & you will win at your level. I have had bad beats ! I have made bad beats ! I have watched loads of poker on ESPN & others, i have seen in "real" games all the things mentioned in the previous comments. I had KK took down by 49 suited but i also saw Paul Dardon do it to Brian Haveson. I have gone a few games without a hand or played bad hands chasing pots but don't we all !!. I have to believe the site i play is honest.The EndA Sad Guy
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This site is the biggest joke i have ever seen. As some of the other reviews mention the first time i buy in i was unbeatable. not just once, but i bought in probably 4 times and qiut all for times up anywhree from 50 150 bucks......... just to lose it again the next day. Between me and all my friends that have played here (about 6 or 7) i have never heard of any of them cashing out ahead. By the way my last day i had pocket aces cracked three times in two hours after raisng $15 in a $1/2 room. once by jack five offsiut!!! All i can say if this site is not rigged itself there are hackers who can do it themselves.. stay away from party poker
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Atleast all the rooms i been in have noless than 3 to 6 people with poker bots.You can call and complain all you want too about it..The free poker rooms they don't do anything about....Who's to say they don't do anything in the real money rooms either...so my advice is if you have a credit card with lots of cash and you can afford to lose GO FOR IT ! party poker is connected with other sites...good luck
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I did not use to think there could be any reason for internet poker sites to cheat. I won consistently at Truepoker and WSEX poker sites at low limits and I am a consistent winner over past few years in all casino and home games I find myself. Just recently I decided to try internet poker again and bought in at Party Poker, just playing 2-4. I play very good hold'em, you'll have to take my word for it. My plan was to make a little stake and move up in stakes, as my friends are playing 10-20 and the like. But lo and behold I can't even beat 2-4. I have had the most ridiculous beats, all in a row, that I've ever seen. My initial plan, once I was down a little and I thought it seemed fishy, was to make back my buy-in and cash out, as I didn't need to play on something I felt doubtful about. I figured I could easily at least make my buy-in back. Unbelievably though I have not been able to make my buy-in back and I am sinking even deeper in the hole. I am very choosy about the tables I play at, always picking the juiciest ones, and I can't get a hand to stand up. I've never had a streak over the past month like I've had there, just seems absurd, even comical to me. Now I've decided to cut my losses. If I do play internet poker again it will be somewhere else. And for everyone talking about all the bad players making it hard to win, I play at a casino regularly with very loose players and I do well consistently. It just doesn't feel right to me.
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My experience with Party Poker has been excellent. I have won money ever since I deposited my first $300. I have also won a ton of play money on this site. There are many other sites that do "stack the deck." I have been playing with Party Poker for over a year now and I am up to $7000 in my account (I have cashed out before, that is just the total.) I also happen to believe that it is somewhat rigged.
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Got a situation for you all.I just cashed out prior to this hand being delt to me I entered a $20 SNG..just 4 of us left I am holding A-K in my hand on the big blind. Only one person calls the big blind..I raise it to half of my chips hoping to steal the blind..he/she/bot calls I was suprised..flop comes K-2-6..el primo flop for A-K I in 4 handed check...guy bets half of what he has left and I call...4th street pops up a KING Chip situation is me about 200 ahead of the player in the hand....I am salivating right now! I go all and he calls.......he is holding pocket fives......and I dont need to tell everyone what the final card was..because anyone who has cashed out knows the card was the ONLY card that could beat me...I chalked it up to oh it can happen no big deal....then I enter a $10 Stud SNG...and everyone knows that stud on pp is a chase anyway so bad beats happen.....first hand I am rolled up with ACES! and it doesnt take a rocket scientist to know that you ram and jam this...so I did.....and end up losing my full house to a straight flush!.....but here is the kicker....I am again down to the final 4 people and the guy/girl/bot is still left and at the chip lead..I am 3rd in the chip standings licking my lips at oh yeah gonna make some cash....when I am rolled up with 7's!!! two people fold I ram and jam the before the flop and after the flop...4th street comes giving me a 7!!! No way I can lose!!!! So I jam it again..guy calls (by the way the guy calling me was the one who chased his straight flush).......to make a long story short.......the girl/guy/bot chased and caught another straight flush! I now have 4.50 cents in my PP account.they can keep it..after cashing out $150 on my original $50 deposite.....I thought I was the only one in the world to lose after cashing out!! GLAD I AM NOT!!!!
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Party Poker is the most rigged sight there is ! Once you make a deposit, you win hands with just about anything you go in with. You get a feeling that you can't lose. You will win hands with Q high, hand after hand, high pair, 2 pair etc. Then you hit a certain point, and Wham ! No matter what you go in with, and no matter how good your hand is, it magically gets beat, and usually on the RIVER, by junk cards. The one example that sticks out the most was, I held AA and maxed out the ante. The flop came 5 A 7. A set of aces, everyone folded except this one player who kept reraising me, the turn was a 10, the board was a rainbow, I kept betting and he kept reraising me to the max. After the hand I found out he was holding a 4 8 off and he was not on the blind. Guess what the RIVER card was, ???? yup, it was a 6, this is a true story, and very similiar things keep happening on this site. I can see if he chased an inside straight, but him reraising me ? give me a break. The last time I played I was beat with straights that I flopped, A set of jacks, a full house, and the list kept going on and on, at the same table, no matter what I had, it was beat. And if I did manage to withdraw a little, I couldn't win a hand with 4 aces. And all the other posts are true, you never win 2 days in a row, if you have a winning day, rest assured its followed by miserable bad beat after bad beat.
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Something else I forgot to mention, if you do a search on the players at the table with you on party poker, you will see that there is a very large majority of the people playing on 4 tables at the same time. This I find very strange, it is hard enough to play 1 table and keep track of other peoples play, etc, but 4 tables ? And its not just a few people its a large majority, and they are winners at most of these tables. Not only can they play 4 tables at the same time, they can also carry on extensive chats in the rooms, these people must be modern miracles of science, or are they PP Robots ? Do yourself a tremendous favor and don't play at these sites, I have actually felt rapped after some extensive play on the site, I cannot prove nor disprove that the games are rigged, but from gut instinct I can only conclude that they are VERY rigged.
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I believe that party poker is rigged. I am a very experienced player who has been playing serious cash ring and casino games for seven years. I started on the internet 3 years ago and on pp a little over 1 year. I have played a statistically significant number of hands given the deviation from the normal expectancy. I have hypothesized why pp would or would not do such a thing, but what it ultimately comes down to is the data. Therefore, if there is anybody who has been compling their hands with a tracker, please let me know and we can arrange for you to send me them via e-mail. I am quite confident that pp's holdem boards are way too correlated to the hole cards. I am not sure about the cashout theory though.
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This is a brutal site. I cashed out for $125. I then bought in for $50. I lost every single $5 sit'n'go I entered. I lost to flush after flush after flush on the river! I got beat with AK, AA, KK regularly. My statistics were terrible.I may visit again after they are busted and clean up after it comes out their software favors large money players.BTW when I first signed up for $50, in 6 seated sit'n'go's I won 2nd,2nd,2nd,3rd,2nd,1st,3rd,1st, and 2nd. I cashed out and got my ass kicked after that.I am now on ULTIMATEBET and doing wonderful. I have cashed out 4 times with zero side effects :-)
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Party Poker is awesome. The have the most players, the most games running at any time, and the most BAD players. Anyone who thinks Party or any of the other large poker sites (e.g. Paradise, UB, Pokerstars, Prima, etc.) are rigged is an idiot. They make hand over fist raking legit games--no need to cheat and kill the golden goose.
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The comments on this site are a joke. Anyone who says they can win somewhere else but not at Party is an idiot. Good poker players can adapt to whatever game they find themselves in. If you play on-line like you would in a B&M Casino (starting hands wise) you will get KILLED. Hands like K10o, Q10o, J9s, Q9s (just to name a few) are monster hands in a Casino but are absolute junk on the internet. If you consistantly play hands like these (and other marginal hands) out of position you will lose a lot of money. It is that simple. You see so many more hands (like 2 or 3 times as many)when playing online that if you are not more selective about your starting hands, your hands that win cannot possibly overcome the number of losing ones that you will have. The majority of posters whose rant on about bad beats and sites being rigged have/can not make the adjustment to on-line play.In support of Party, I started seriously playing on-line last November. I started with $50 at .5/$1 at Party and in the past year have worked my way up to $3/6 with a bankroll of over $9,000. I definitely wouldn't say that I am great (or even good) yet, but if I (a rookie) can consistantly beat the online game at each stage along the way it is most surely NOT rigged.I cannot stop laughing when reading some of the posts above.
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I have to laugh when I read the posts that defend party poker. I have to stop and wonder who these people are, and who they work for. Beleive me, these online poker rooms are making tons of money on the rake, and they are greedy to the max, nobody is checking on them, and they can do whatever they like. Go play on PP and you will feel like you have been rapped when you are done. While you are playing you will notice that all your good hands will be beaten. You will be bet at, in a way, that only someone who either knows whats in your hand, or knows what cards are coming can do. The only thing these places claim is that their random number generator is random, well I believe that, but believe me, there is nobody looking over their shoulder to prevent them from fixing the hands. There is a program you can download where you can predetermine which player will get which cards, and what the board cards will be, download it and play it, because it will remind you of playing on PP. If its that easy to do on your own, well how easy do you think it would be for them to do ? Use some common sense, or lose all your money trying to determine on your own if its rigged. Nobody is watching them or preventing them from rigging the game, and don't listen to these people trying to defend them, with talk of the rake. They are raking you and rapping you at the same time.
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There are some very intersting reviews. Party pokers software playwise is not perfect but its does the job. There are more games and players at all limits than every other site combined. I have played 30000+ hands on and don't notice any statistically significant variations in rivering frequencies. Nobody remembers the time their flush holds up the two pair or their aces beat 55 but everyone can tell you a story about how they lost with them. The more suckouts you see happening is due to more players seeing the flop with various garbage which makes good players profit in the long run on while multitabling had aces on two tables and kings on another and none of them held up but I seem to win with aces a little over 70 percent of the time I certainly don't try to slow play them. There have been some players caught coluding and with bots they have had their accounts frozen but I don't think cheating at party is greater than at other online rooms. Most people complaining about rampant cheating and bots are just shitty players.Cheers,Luca
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It's nice to see a bunch of losers who can't beat the easiest games around whining and moaning about how the site is "rigged" just because they cannot admit they are not good enough to beat the game.For Pete's sake most of you think they are rigging .50/1 and other low limit games - get a grip and think logically (which is obviously a challenge for 95% of you). If they were to rig anything it wouldn't be your little games.Your losses are your own fault. I know your not Man enough to admit you suck, but rest assured that is the cause of your pain.Admitting your a loser is the first step. First however you will have to extract your heads from your behinds.BTW - Party is the best Poker Room for making monay you will find on or offline. You just have to have half a brain.
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Actually I have played at over 30 sites. I played almost every Internet cardroom there is, because I do it on a professional level as a reviewer for a nationally recognized poker magazine.Contrary to what people say here, Party is easily one of the best sites there is. One just has to learn how to play with the people who play there, and adapt to the software.All you rockish old-farts "professional" land-based casino players on respirators should DEFINITELY stay away. The action here is way too good for you. You should stick to games where everyone folds to your UTG raise. Party Poker is designed for a new generation of poker players, specifically those who first learned poker on TV (ie. WPT on Travel Channel, WSOP on ESPN). This new breed of poker players are not afraid of action, and if there is anything they can stand it is "rockish old-farts "professional" land-based casino players on respirators" types.This is where Party Poker shines! Featuring the "action flop", Party Poker rewards the risk takers! If you are young guns, not afraid to take risks in order to get big payoffs (and BOY do I mean BIG: the Party Poker Bad Beat Jackpot routinely gets over $150,000 and it does so in a matter of days! Highly recommended place to play!) you should play here.BUT! Before you do, throw away all those poker books by "Experts". All that book learning won't help you here. At Party you will need nerves of steel and killer instincts, and no book teaches you that. If you got those, you will crush these games!Remember, Party's software rewards action and loose play (just read all the other comments here to confirm this! It is not just me saying this). So don't be afraid to play any suited cards, any Ace, and connectors too! Don't be afraid if the flop doesn't exactly hit you. Remember there are 2 more cards to come!Well, there is one drawback to Party, as with any online room. And that is the fact that you can't gloat to your opponents face when you crack their Aces with 75o that rivered a gutshot straight!
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Almost every comment I've seen on this forum about the unbelievable bad beats that occur on PP I've encountered (or witnessed). However, I typically win when I play with a little discipline. I lose when I get tired or bored. Bad beats...you're gonna see them (a large number of them or not). I am not even a good player...but DINGLEBERRY...what were you thinking? A "2-3"? Raise? suited or not, I know enough to realize that there are 11 other cards that can destroy your hand and seeing how 9 other players were playing at the table, chances are one of them could beat you. Your first clue should have been the raise after the flop...a pair of A's had you beat. All the fish that people have been writing about in the other statements? Guess what dude? You're the definitive FISHY. Funny thing about this...is that I was actually at the table when that happened...I still cant figure out what you were thinking. A loose player may be inclined to play J6, A5, Q7, K6, etc...but a 2-3? A monkey can be trained not to play those kind of hands. Good Luck...you'll need it.
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Hey rtmxyz, how is party "rapping" us? I don't recall them piping hip-hop into my home. You're a moron.Party has some of the best games on the internet. There are sites with softer games, but not many. Here's a quick question ... when you raise preflop with AA, do you want the guy next to you cold calling with 75o? I bet most of the "Party is rigged" morons here would say no.
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Hey LabSlick why don't you mind your own beezewax!!1111 I lost my life savings because this site is totally rigged. And now I learned that they don't even HAVE .25/.50 tables!!!1111 My money was totally stolen, but Najeezeablahalaekaeahan in Customer Service totally doesn't care and stuff.
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Most of the people posting here don't have the slightest clue what they're talking about.I started to type a response here, listing all the errors in people's reasoning, but I got too frustrated. There are too many of them to address in a single response.Suffice to say, most of the above posters who insult Party Poker's integrity are losing players who can't admit such.In any case, to those who are debating about playing at Party Poker: do not let the above posters discourage you. Party has some of the easiest, softest, most beatable games on the net.**Please remember, though - AND THIS IS KEY - the poorer the players, the more suck-outs you will experience, almost by definition. This translates into greater swings in your winnings, both UP and DOWN. However, in the long, long run... the greater players will prevail. **W.P.
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Wow, I was able to predict the quick response to my post about party poker being rigged, just as accurate as one can predict what will come on the river to beat you on this site. Its nice to see the people who are winning (aka - the fixers) quickly defending pp. They speak of the new breed of poker players, which I think they mean, is someone who is stupid enough to keep playing on a rigged site. That is the new breed that pp wants, ignorant people who don't mind having their hard earned money stolen from them. If PP is not fixed or rigged than I would love for them to invite me to come and examine the systems that are running their games. I will form an organization that validates the fact that it is legit. I will hire a team of trained programmers to audit the site on a daily basis, and I will build I website with the results. I would do this with every casino on the internet. If their site is legit, than they would be more than happy to acomadate such a request. But from what I have seen, I don't think they would want such an audit done. But my biggest observation is this, why would anyone who is winning so much money at these sites, have so much free time to be on here defending it to the max, why are they ot using this time making more money on the site ?
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First of all, I lost $200 on this site. I am not rating it high because, yes, I lost a good deal of money. However, I seriously doubt that it is rigged. All of the people on this site that rate it badly seem to have had some bad beats. I've heard all the rumors about Party Poker screwing with hands. Bad beats happen, and you all recognize that they happen. That's all that needs to be said. The smart ass computer geek that explained his "statistical significane" earlier on these posts doesn't know what he's talking about. He lost 100 hands in a row because he doesn't know how to play poker. Someone needs to tell him it's not all about the cards, it's about betting, too. If someone outbets you or outplays you and the cards aren't shown, how in the hell can you tell me that you had 100 losing hands in a row. Yes you lost a bunch of times, but if you can't tell me you didn't see AQ, low pockets, etc. during that time. YOu didn't see the other guy's cards, he probably outsmarted you. Keep to the computer programming and stay out of poker (and the English language as well as this guy, along with a bunch of other people, can't even speak or spell correctly. It bothers me when people don't know how to use "then" and "than," etc. If you can't tell the difference in these, I'm not taking your word on poker sites.). Anyways, I am not saying these sites definitely aren't rigged, I'm just saying I want someone (who hasn't been beaten and knows the odds) to give me hard evidence that these sites are rigged. Remember, I lost money. I'm not bitter, I understand that people lose money. Stop whining.
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Luca said "There have been some players caught coluding and with bots they have had their accounts frozen" I would like to know how Luca knows that they were cheating, and also how he knows these people's accounts were frozen ? Unless, of course he worked at PP. This forum is as big a joke a PP, if someone complains, the PP shills, jump right in and defend the sight, well of course they are, they are the ones profitting from the Rig.
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I'd like to know what the odds are of this hand happening the way it did. I'm not a poker pro and just play for fun but this hand seemed very strange to me. I was dealt 8s9s in late position it was raised about 3 times the bb and I called and the big blind called. The flop came 7s10sJs. Needless to say the bells and whistles went off and the first guy leads off with a sizeable bet, I thought here's my chance to bust this guy who had been playing really aggressive at everything and you just couldn't get him/her out of a hand. So I raised and he reraised, so I put all my money in and he called. So I think I got this one in the bag when he turns over Qs6c then the turn comes As and the river comes Ks. I just wanna know what the odds of that happening are and I still can't justify his play, but I'd really just like to hear from someone who calculates odds or something, cause that has to be some kinda crazy miracle to hit a royal flush to beat me. Needless to say after that I stopped playing at party poker.
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I found this site because I was curious to see if others have had the same experience as I have with Party Poker. After reading most of the reviews here I see that others have had the same problem. I firmly believe that PP is a set-up. They purposely set up hands so that at least two people will go against each other. I'm not saying every hand is set up but I play at casinos just as often and I never see the kind of hands that I see on PP. How often do you get KK and someone else has AA? Give me a break. How many flushes and straights can people chase down on the river? I've read many poker books and the odds just don't match up. I've tried to play aggressive and tight and you get burned no matter what. PP lets you win a lot in the beginning and then as soon as you cash out your luck changes. So you deposit more money and get sucked in. I can't accept the excuse of "Well, you're just on a bad beat." No way. I know what a bad beat is and I know when I'm being set up. What's scary is all this talk about "scanners" and how people can see what cards you have. I'm cashing out permanently from PP. The reason I do give it a 3 rating is because the graphics and set-up of PP is excellent and user-friendly. The game play, however, is quite suspicious.
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A "rockish old fart on a respirator"idea is almost as funny as the concept of a "professional poker site evaluator". If the new wave of poker players are learning from television then they should know better than to play half the crap they play. Nerves of steel and killer instincts are second fiddle behind a guy whos willing to waste away ten grand at a 3-6 table. playing like an idiot doesnt matter to him. Thats what it is. Do yourself a favor, stick strictly to no limit tournaments. Let some idiot try playing his A3s or chase his gut-shot straights in a tourney. If he doesnt hit the first hand he chases, hes gone. The notion that your first mistake may well be your last will scare any maniac straight, that or he will lose his shirt one or the other.
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I consider myself a very good player and after spending some time at PP I am also of the opinion that something isn't right. I've played tens of thousands of live hands and never, ever seen the nonsense you see on this site. I too, was winning like crazy when I first deposited. Then after a while I got on a cold streak that I haven't seen in 30 years of playing. I'll go dozens of hands with rags then get KK when someone else has AA every time. I track every hand in PokerTracker and statistically something is very, very wrong. The hand strengths are way below average. Between the endless bad beats and 90% of the AKs type hands that don't even pair, I was beginning to think I was just the unlukiest person in the world. But after talking with others and reading online posts, I'm convinced that something's fishy. My gut was telling me and the statistics prove it. For me I'm taking my money out for good.
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LMAO, straightshooter says the site is on the up and up, then says they reward agressive betting. The cards are either random or rigged. If our Professional evaluator is correct, then it is rigged. My experience is more or less the same - you start off winning like crazy, play consistently and lose while playing the same strategy. I have a real money and a play money account. I have over $3 million in play chips but was smart enough to stop at original $100 real chips. Real money shot up to over $500 then like everyone else, started losing consistently. OK PP shills, now tell me play money people play loser and that's why you win with fake money - rigged pure and simple.
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OVERRATED!!! This place is not as good as it looks. Terrible Customer service and horrible game set-up. If you're smart you'll play somewhere else.
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Party has the most selection of any site and the sit and goes are the only ones with essentially no waiting.I have mae a lot of money at PP, but I have also had 100 big bet draw downs. If you play enough, it all comes back with interest. PP is the real deal and they have no incentive to do anything but provide an honest game.
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PP is the biggest joke on earth. There isn't enough room on this site to tell all the stories of all the really great hands that got rivered.If I have high pair, someone has higher kicker, If I flop 2 pair, then someone has trips. If I flop a straight, then someone rivers a flush. If I get trips, its either a straight or a flush on the river. Everytime I get a straight or flush on the turn, the river matches a card and someone had trips for a boat. The list is endless, it just gets worse and worse. Like others said earlier, they tell you your just on a bad run. Yeah right, of course its a bad run, and it lasts for months, same story no matter what. I can't tell you how many times I flopped sets, and someone flopped higher sets. If there is only 1 card that can come on the river that can beat you, your best bet on pp is to put your life savings on that card coming up, because it will. The tables are so rigged its pathetic. The last time I played there I actually sat there laughing at the ridiculous bad beats, one after the other after the other, no matter what table, no matter what limit. I cannot warn anyone more than this, if you have money you want to lose, save your time and just mail them a check. I don't care what anyone says, they rig the games pure and simple. Oh, and if you turn around and try to chase after a hand, you could have 20 outs and you will not get a card you need.
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...wow, I wish I would have pulled my cash out before I lost it all. I turned my 190 buy in into 1200 bucks in about a week in a half, only to loose it all the past three days. The beats that I received today were too crazy to think they are doing anything other then cheating.1) I get pocket A's, raise the pot to 6, get raised to 25, I make the person on a pair lower then mine and go all in. I get called, pot is 142 dollars....the guy who called me has 9-7 off suited and hits two pair on the river.2) I get pocket A's again, things have been going so bad, I bet out at 15 bucks to force out the bad hands. I get one guy who calls me, flop comes all low cards, but all clubs. I have the A of clubs, so I go all in, get called by a guy who called my 15 dollar bet with 10-8 of clubs. I loose another 200 dollar pot.3)I flop top two pair two pair and bet 20 bucks. There is two diamonds on the board, bet another 20 on the turn and on the river another diamond hits and I loose out a hand where that is all the guy had going for him.That is just a few of the hands today, but I was not winning anything, my trip hands kept getting out drawn, two pair, people betting 30 bucks before the flop with hands like 8-3 off suited when I get top pair on the flop.The site cheats, there is no doubt in my mind, I will never return, just wish I would have looked this up before I lost all my cash.
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I've been playing at Party Poker for over a year at low limits and turned a profit 13 of 14 months, playing sit and go tournaments and 2-4, 3-6 hold'em. I win by playing solid, patient, tight, aggressive poker. Yes there are many bad beats and more so on-line than in at a card club, but that is because you're are playing against some of the world's worst players, and you're playing three times as many hands per hours as you would live.I was playing at the Canterbury Card Club yesterday and lost with a set of sevens, set of fours and set of kings, all within 30 minutes. Was the dealer cheating me? Does the card club deal suck-out hands to house shills? No. I survived, regained control and ended up winning money on the night.All of you who are complaining need to take a step back and re-evaluate your game. I'm no house shill. I can't see your cards. I am not a bot. I do not work for Party Poker. Yet, I win every month. And I win money from guys like you who apparently don't understand that bad beats are part of the game and you will suffer a lot more of them when you don't know how to play your hands when there is a dangerous board. That's the beauty of Texas Hold'em. Since everyone shares five of the seven cards, whenever you get a good had, it's a pretty good bet the other guy has a good hand too. All those complaining here are the same ones that don't know the difference between an AK and an AJ and will play both the same, or when there is a lot of pre-flop betting they don't understand that your set of 8's can easily be beaten when you have two over cards on the board that could make someone a higher set, or that your pocket aces are in mortal danger when something like AJT flops, etc. etc. and on and on. I'll bet that none of the whiners ever make a tough lay-down when they need to. They just play there second-best hands to the river and whine when they get beat. And that's what makes me money, not some rogue software program or rigged site.
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the bad beats on here are ridiculous stay away from this site
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