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heres an example of a typical hand in UB
re-flop: XMoneyMakerAA has disconnected, is dropped. bad4mo2fo0 folds. J0CASINO folds. ezcomezgo1234 raises to 35. GOLD_FINGER-2 folds. XMoneyMakerAA folds. samshire calls. cfdff162 folds. DueceTreMe folds. oscarm calls. TheCaptain1 folds. Flop (board: 5h Kc 8h): oscarm checks. ezcomezgo1234 bets 115. samshire goes all-in for 1465. oscarm folds. ezcomezgo1234 goes all-in for 1455. samshire is returned 10 (uncalled). Tournament all-in showdown -- players show: ezcomezgo1234 shows 6h 8c. samshire shows Kd Qh. Turn (board: 5h Kc 8h 4s): (no action in this round) River (board: 5h Kc 8h 4s 7s): (no action in this round) XMoneyMakerAA has reconnected. Showdown: ezcomezgo1234 has 6h 8c 5h 4s 7s: straight, eight high. samshire has Kd Qh Kc 8h 7s: a pair of kings. Hand #53487270-2 Summary: No rake is taken for this hand. ezcomezgo1234 wins 3025 with straight, eight high. ---------------------------------------------------------------- |
I'm using my first ever post to say that UB is rigged. How it's rigged; who knows. All I know is that it is a statistical anomaly to lose to two-outers as often as I have. If you've played online poker for a while, you just get a sense when the deal is not kosher. UB is rigged.
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i started on ub in 99, one of the originals, stopped putting money in there site in 02 and only played freerolls, started accusing them of cheating in late 03, over the next 4 years kept records of what was happening, and here is what really stands out, first, i had the best hand 98% of the time at any all in and i lost 95% of the time, over a 4 years period, thats BS!!!!!!!! not even close to realistic, 2nd my pockets would only hit the set, 1-75 times on average, ive gone as high as 1-294, again not realistic, over a 4 year period i averaged 70 bad beats a day on a 4 hour session, now im a very tight player so im running around 28% of flops seen, do the math, so where are the idiot people saying, (you say its rigged because your a bad player) ill tell you where they are, there on ub with 8-6 off calling a all in against A-A and hitting running 8s, ub is rigged no doubt, they are rigged, i know it they know it and now everybody knows it thank you for reading my post
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STAY CLEAR OF THIS WEBSITE!!!!!!!!
Same people who own Absolute Poker and GOT CAUGHT CHEATING with Superuser accounts like "POTRIPPER" own Ultimate Bet, and again allagations have surfaced that their have been multiple SUPERUSER accounts like "NioNio" who have ripped off MILLIONS of dollars from innocent bystanders. Google AP scandal and UB scandal and you'll find all the information you want on these matters. Absolute Poker, after initially denying the fact that they FUCKING CHEATED people out of MILLIONS of dollars, admitted to having a person from the inside, steal MILLIONS of dollars from people because they had the ability to see every players hole cards. I'll NEVER play online poker again! The only reason these two websites got caught is because they made it SO OBVIOUS. God only knows how many other online poker sites have people from the inside stealing money, but not making it so obvious. And since none of these poker sites are regulated, nothing will be done about it! STAY AWAY FROM ULTIMATE BET AND ABSOLUTE POKER! CHEATERS!!!!! CHEATERS!!!!!!! THIEVES!!!!!!!! |
< sorry for my english because i'm from a non-english speaking country >
- ok, UltimateBet had a security problem with one of its employee in 2008. But this problem has been fixed and i'm sure than now UltimateBet is the most secured place to play (because the problem has been discovered and corrected) - the customer support is really reactive and efficient, nothing to say. They respond to email within 1 hour ! - great software, may be one of the best of the market - a lot of players, at small and high stake I really love this site. ***************************************** One more important remark : i'm playing online poker for years (and i tried a lot of poker rooms)and : - i had a lot of bad beats at all my poker rooms without any exception, but i had also some lucky river. ***************************************** |
I won't go into how I believe the flops are juiced and true odds are thrown right out the window but this message is about trying to get my money out of UB. They simple make excuses why I can't have MY money. It is only $126 so no big deal but it is the principle. UB told me that if I deposit more money then I could withdraw it all at once at a later date. Isn't that a little like throwing a piece of meat to a lion and then asking for it back? What is to keep them from keeping my new deposit as well? My friend in New York had the same problem so it is just not me. BEWARE!!!!
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My two cents
When I joined the site I didnt do my research, then after seeing some really odd hands over and over I seen the article on the site cheating that was mentioned above.
So when I first joined I won a lot, I was up several thousand dollars in no time. Then it was like a light swich a week later, I lost every game I played! Then I would win a little and I could expect to lose every game the next day. It seems to me that there are preselected players and/or seats that will win during that game no matter how they play, no skill is needed. If you notice the large stack at these tables, they go in with nothing and win to big hands, it dont matter what they have they get the hand over and over, they cant lose. Not sure if this is new players or what determins the winner, but it is very obvious. Then you can always see the setup hand I call it. When you have short stack with a great hand in a big tournament it is better to just fold down into more money, they just want the next person gone, you will lose if someone calls you all in. I have a lot more, but I can tell you this for an example, it happens a lot. I will have AA to lets say 10 10 all in, they would get a straight for the win a lot of the time. I have seen more straights on this site then anyone could imagine. I used customer service once, its a joke! Good luck with this site. I have played a few sites and a lot of online games, so far I think Full Tilt #1 and and Poker Stars #2 as sites I would recomend. Good luck. |
i'm not here to complain about bad beats. i used to love ultimate bet. one day i was playing and the bad beat hit the level i was playing and i got 140 something bucks out of it. i used to refer everyone to ultimatebet.com. then one day after many successful deposits and withdrawals i couldn't log in. they didn't know why but then they said i had to validate my account. i didn't understand why it would need to be validated after all of my deposits and withdrawals but they insisted. they wanted a copy of a utility bill, drivers license, and credit card. i'm surprised they didn't ask for a stool sample. well this started about 2 months ago and i'm still sending them my information and they're still saying that they aren't getting it or that it's too blurry to read. they've already threatened to just close my account and keep whats in it. i'm guessing they're hoping i just give up. so if you really need to play online poker i recommend staying away ultimate bet and their poor business practices so that you don't get screwed over like me.
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I understand. I play on UB too under the name twoking10. I usually play $10 or 20 S&G's. I started with $200 and have been cashing out very consistently from $150 up to $250 every week. However, I have noticed some real crap. Today, EVERY 2 or 3 outer on the turn or river that someone could hit... they hit. EVERY time. I mean, some days its like.. "son of a b---h." I could tell you some real horror stories but you know as well as I do about the bad beats. I'm considering going to another site.
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more on UB
My previous post was all about the bad beats etc. on UB. Honestly , as far as money and cash out problems, I haven't had much problem with that. I cash out every week on Saturday from $150-$250 and get my check the following Friday.
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I just played an S&G on UlitimatBetfinished about 10 minutes ago. I'm heads up against a player who had been playing carefully the whole game. We are about even in chips (he has just 80 more than me).
He raises from the small blind with As6d. I call (keep in mind we are heads up) with 7sQh. Flop comes 7dQdKc. I hit two pair on the flop. He has not paired the board. The best he has is to BACKDOOR a straight, flush, or two pair. He puts in a large bet, I move-in, he calls. Turn and River are 6cAh. He backdoors two pair to beat my two pair. NO way anyone can tell me that isn't rigged. Ultimate Bet. |
I'm in 2nd position, full table, with JJ, 1318 in chips, blinds are 15-30. I raise to 120. Player in BB position calls with 75. Flop comes 3-6-10. He has no flush draw. He bets 30 on an inside straight draw. I don't know what he has yet but I am tired of getting sucked out on, I raise to 495, almost half my stack!! He calls on the inside straight draw and hits it with the 4!!! No way I'm getting out of this as I now have to much invested and still don't see an overcard on the board. I go bust. HE CALLED 40% OF MY STACK ON AN INSIDE STRAIGHT DRAW!!! not kidding. Ultimate Bet is bullshit.
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Ultimate bet is absolutely rigged still. How are they still in business after getting busted once already?
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Ultimatebet is certainly rigged. I have played on the site for over 8 years. For very little money I assure you. I have thousands of hands videoed and documented. Currently I am losing over 88 percent of preflop all in hands in which I am favored. I have been called or reraised all in by 83 fourteen times in two months, preflop. Each time I have lost. Each hand I have had 1010 or better.
I suspect people here defending UB are associated with them. I know some 100 people who currently play or have played at UB. Not one is ahead in money. Yet most of these guys are solid players. Annie Duke and Phil Helmuth have lost any respect I had for them as players. I personally get bad beat after bad beat. 69 percent of the time I lose when getting in best at the flop. So, beware. It is VERY rigged. |
I got 22k hands so far, filtering AA & KK that saw river I lost 14/60, about 4 to 1. Thats what its meant to be i think, obv if you play better or worse post flop the results are affected. In the last 9 months, ive encountered a $4k down swing at pokerstars, and a $2.5k downswing on stars+ultimatebet, it sux but it happens and its a case of they're ALL rigged or ALL straight, there's no difference between the sites RNG's.
One thing Ive been looking closely at of recent is rake. You'll be surprised how much rake affects your winrate. Maybe even making some lower stakes games unbeatable to the above average player. Calling these sites rigged Im sure is a waste of time, there's other leaks you just gotta look for em. Good luck |
This won't be a post saying the site is rigged or the random number gen is rigged or anything like that, but, this is a true story that happened to me just last night and I just wanted to post it somewhere.
Quickly to explain, I joined a satellite tourney with a buyin of 44 points. I won top 16 and advanced to the $4 satellite (top 2 advance to $40+4 satellite to the 80k gtd). I get down to the top 3. It's me, a dude we'll call "Jon" and another dude we'll call "Mark". I have the button and I raise with AQ off, Mark calls, Jon folds. Flop comes JJ something. Mark checks, I min bet, Mark calls. Turn comes something, Mark checks, I continuation bet and Mark calls. River comes Jack to put 3 jacks on the board. Mark checks, I throw a bet out there and Mark FOLDS AND SHOWS A JACK for QUADS. Me and Jon start typing and chatting, asking what the hell he was thinking. We get no response from Mark. The tournament takes a 5 minute break, and Jon and I continue to chat about what just happened and keep asking Mark to talk or say something. AFter the break, a few hands in, a very similar situation came up. After the river Jon bet and Mark folded/showed a flopped full house (9s full of 4s). At this point Jon and I determined that we were facing a bot of some sort and it was either bugging out or is just programmed crappy when it gets down to the final few players. We went in cahoots and re-raised the bot all-in every hand that we could and checked anything called down to the river and we took Mark out. As soon as we figured out it was a bot, it was so painfully obvious we were not playing against a real player. So that's my story. There ARE poker bots out there. i'm sure its just some other player's bot, but you could also argue that this thing is programmed by Ultimate Bet to join tournaments and knock people out or something, I don't know. |
I'm not aware of a poker site where you can fold your cards and then show them; I guess you're talking about looking at the hand history?
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nope, you're WRONG VA. 100% true.
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I have developed a site called fulltiltisrigged.com which I am posting pictures and have multiple links on which prove online poker is a joke and rigged. The only thing more rigged than the poker on ub is the black jack
When the dealer gets 20 black jacks to your 3 and you get dealt 17 twelves out of 50 hands something is not right. |
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...and what happend....2 days a go i was playing 2-4 NL...i buy in with 200 bucks and lose it,rebuy 400.playin tight and solid poker...finally i get pocket tens and flopped full boat on the flop KKT.i bet out the pot.get called by 1 player and reraised by second..so i called reraiser bet.on the turn i bet out,-all in.he or she quickly calls and shows K9 and the other player had also some K with crap.and ques what card come to the river?.....fkng 9 ....unbelievible!! and there was more on that day...played omaha hi-lo....same kind sh** happen.get called to the river and BOOM they hit card what they need.....so sick |
Hi there, I registered at UB 2 days ago in order to find out if this site was any more legit than all the rest. When a site is rigged you usually expect the following trends:
1. cash-in-and-win-policy 2. suck out time after initial winnings And guess what: The exact same thing happens on UB. I cashed in only $100 and won almost 49$ in the first two days at low limit cash tables. After 700 hands i had a BB/100 of 28,53. Incredible! But on the next day my initial luck completely vanished. I started to lose all my top pairs to better kickers, all my 2 pairs to flushs, while my own flush draws couldnt complete anymore. I even saw really wicked play from that point on, like a guy reraising me holding AQo, the flop he had NOTHING whatsoever but a gutshot straight draw, and guess what, he calls my all-in and hits the 4 outer turn card. I just lost the next big hand. I called a QQ hand that was raised 3,5BB preflop with 99. Flopped a set of 9s, turned a boat 9s over 8s. After massive betting guy shoves all-in, and guess what, the river is - in good old suckout style - the 2-outer Q. Interestingly, this was the very one and only all-in turn that was called after me raising by a strong overpair for a whole stack. Funny how the first hand I get a monster on the turn is crushed by the 4% hand, right? Yup, guys, what can I say: after all those losing hands I dropped 5 whole stacks and am now almost back at where I started. And I just know that I will lose my winnings to more monkey hands, since i don't seem to be able to hit more than 1 out of 5 whole boards anymore, sets are like water in a desert, I get sucked out on by dream miracle cards, I ask players about that and they leave the table. I also see other players having their "honeymoon" time, one guy was the AQo gutshot player. In 4 consecutive hands he got straight, flopped flush, another straight and a river nut flush (just like I did on my first two days, where at two tables almost at the same time I flopped a nut straight). Unreal! Conclusion: bye bye UB, and bye bye online poker. It's just not worth my time anymore, since I experience the same kind of rubbish almost every single session. Run good at first (hell, run like you are in God-mode!), then lose to the suckout players calling/shoving their 2-4 outers. I am not even sure anymore whether those players are indeed real players or simply some bots installed by the company to induce betting and suck out on the real players. As far as cheating is concerned: I just read about another UB poker scandal concerning the high stakes. After the Absolute Poker scandal a few years (?) ago, this should be reason enough to leave the site as fast as you can. And never go back there whatsoever. Thx for reading, over and out. |
Returned to UB recently, and as mentioned, started off pretty good. But things went downhill. Then I got beat by a straight flush on the final hand. The problem is, I had the straight flush! But on the final hand I ended up with the opponent's cards. Impossible, I thought. Except I got two screen shots and the hand history which contradict each other.
Is this deliberate or is UB just a buggy piece of goo? It certainly is unreliable. I sent them the results, I doubt if I will ever hear back. Not going to waste any more time or money there, plus there's not much action in the lower limits. |
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