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yea i guess that term in law called slander is made up. they can't make the movie without permission they are doing a movie on the robert blake and his killed wife and they had to have it approved. so no they cant just going making a movie about you making shit up it is called slander or did they just do away with slander in the law book.
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I recently watched "High Roller" and was fascinated with the story, life and card playing abilities of Stu Ungar. Until doing some further research on the net did I come to realize that this movie was mostly fabricated. This is very upsetting knowing that anyone can re-shape someone's life in the movies to make some money. Stephanie I will be looking forward to the release of your fathers book as I would love to learn the truth about him, being only 21 and not getting into poker until a year ago he was before my time. I also must applaud you for dealing with all of the little brains that post their trailer park trash talk on this forum. This tool should be used as an outlet to share and indulge in the great mind and ability that your father possesed. Even though above I mentioned that "High Roller" was ficticious it managed to encapsulate me and allowed me the strength to strive for greater things in my life. With that being said I have truly been able to fine tune my poker game while keeping my head in check, this is due in part to your fathers up's and down's. Although I simply do not have the means to be a high roller like "The Kid", it doesn't take much to lose the little amount that I have. By gambling I just don't mean poker or the track what I mean is that life has to many choices and you must use analytical thought to process the very best outcome. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't but if you analysed the situation correctly more often than not you will end up on top. At the poker table (and in life) the only sure thing is that there are no sure things. Sorry for the rant that probably doesn't make sense, but I felt I had to write something. Take care and God bless.
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Slander doesn't apply here becuase a film is a work of fiction and Stu Ungar is a public figure. Now Stephanie and Madeline are not public figures which is why they are not characters in the movie.
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Bugsy.....I hear you loud and clear. I've been motivated in my life by many great movies and I can totally relate. I love movies that inspire. Keep your game tight and take care.
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geez i wonder why the tabloid magazines some times get sued for making up stuff on "public figures" they have the right to make stuff up so i wonder why they get sued.
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Stephanie--Very interesting reading back and forth. I'm wondering if you have ever spoken to Gabe Kaplan (Mr. Kotter from Welcome Back Kotter). If you watch the '97 ESPN coverage of Stu's last win, Gabe's interview with Stu is quite touching. Gabe seems to have alot of insight into Stu, seemingly a witness to the challenges of his life. Gabe is a long-time poker personality (a final table WPT player this year), so I would think his insights would be quite valuable.
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The reason the tabloids get sued is because they profess to be telling the truth. A movie never claims to be non-fiction. If it was a documentary on THE TRUE LIFE OF STU UNGAR, then they couldn't embellish.If I wanted to make a movie about Michael Jackson and depict scenes where he has little boys in his bed drinking wine...I could. It's one perspective on the life of a public figure and there's nothing Michael could do about it. It's a FICTIONALIZED account of his life. Why must you fight me on this?
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ok so u can make up a story about someone just using there name and there is nothing they can do since it is fictionalized. thats make no sense
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watched high roller the other day, thought it was awesome until I am reading it was not an accurate story. Still not to sure if "Stephanie" is who she says she is, so how do we know the story is accurate or not? Good movie, just a shame the industry cannot sort out facts before they suck us all in to watch them!
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i hate gambling so much all i ever do is lose i suck at hold em i waste my pay checks on blackjack and roulette so me and my friend bought that movie as a joke and i thought it was really good and it kind of intrigued me so i came on here to find out more about him and i think i might actually read a book about him if i knew it was true so stefanie stephanie i dont know if you know of a true book or a true movie let me know and do you think its funny how hot you are in the movie ive never seen you before but the girl in the movie is pretty cute and if you look like that and have a bunch of money i was wondering if you would marry me seriously though i am interested in this guys life and want true real facts and i want to stop looseing all my money
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You want to stop loosing your money then stop letting yourself loose it. Don't blame it on bad luck, stick to games that you can win at. I don't play hockey and the main reason is I am not a good skater, see how this relates. Don't play hold'em, blackjack, roulette if you can't at least win some of the time. Find something that you are good at and then play competitively for some cash.
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no, i win and i loose just like everyone else it just hurts worse when i loose and stfanie do you have to work for a living or did you enherit enough money to live forever
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u morons she is not stu unger's daughter
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could be
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I doubt it is either. Never know on the net. Could just be a wannabe. Everyone is busy typing to her though huh? She getting what she wants out of this? Attention!?
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A few people made comments on July 14th 2004 wat a year 2004 was but anyway 1 of them said people love to hate the best because they no they can never reach that level but I will reach that level someday and it won't be in Poker even though I love dat game it willl be in footy and if u follow the footy in about 6/7/8 years time look out for the new player for Richmond called Harry Barley and his cousin Henry Williams also playing for Richmond in about the same amount of years.
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Some1 else made a post dat I didn't lyk it was on July 18th 2004 and they said dat he was in the top ten players of all time but nowhere near the best and judjing by the rest of the peoples comments he was the BEST there is and ever was.
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Some other people made crap posts and 1 person made a great post about how people come on these sights and slag legends, I don't do that I actually think that I wish I had been alive to play the guy because it would've been an honour to play him and without meaning really not meaning to brag but I have a fair bit of poker talent myself I think but apparently this Stu Ungar legend was unmatched and I'll believe them till I find out if I win tons of big time tournaments.
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Las Vegas people Las Vegas and I'm changing my name to High Roller so if u c the name High Roller it's me da same guy as Haz
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I'll come back on here sometime. It was a good posting website cya around peoples.
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It is so funny to hear that you all don't really think I am really Stefanie. I guess you really can't tell. I don't blame you though. Anyway, the movie does say "based on a true story" but I can't do too much about it because he was known as a public figure like the guy above said. At least that's what my attorney told me. Yes I do work for a living. I have been working since I was 16 yrs and attend college although I took this semister off. Talk to you all later.
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Does anyone else get the feeling that Doyle Brunson was jealous of Stuey? I've heard Doyle talk about how he picked up a tell on Stuey and won a large pot off of him, and I read where Doyle said that if Stuey had ever lost with high pair that he'd have been out of the tournament. I haven't read what Doyle said about coming in second to Stuey in the WSOP.Doyle is obviously a great player, and a million times better gambler than Stuey (it's not what you win, but what you keep, IMHO). But if Stuey was playing his best I doubt Doyle could touch him.
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I don't even know the guy but I'm definitely the best poker player ever I will win big in LA one day . C I can rhyme as well lol.
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Bullsh!t. You Cant Do Nothing So I Can Go Make A Stu Unger Movie And If It Makes Money I Couldnt Get Sued Lmfao What A Joke
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How do you think that Michale Moore was able to portray Bush the way he did in Farenheit 911. All be it that a majority of the facts in the movie where true, the way he portrayed Bush was in a bad light and guess what Bush couldn't stop the movie from being made. The fact of the matter is as long as there is a little bit of truth in the movie they can say that it was based on a true story. They are not selling the movie as a true story just basing the movie on one.
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I have actually bought the dvd of the movie . The only good thing about it that it has made me aware of who this Card Genius was . The film is a B movie poorly acted and without heart. With a great director and leading actor the film could be made into Oscar material .Most probably trying to act Stu's part would be incredibly difficult, Sean Penn would be great and Tarantino director.I wonder if last the world championship of poker Stu won is viewable in any format.Do not judge cause you will be judged!
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stefanie, your cool, i believe in you, i dont care what theese mean people say, do you have to work or do you just want to work cuz bet your sweet ass if i had parents that meant anyhting i wouldnt work, i work at freakin wal mart
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oh yeah im probably coming to vegas for the first time in may 18-21 and im only 20 so what can i do there thats any fun i have money and i just want to see vegas and experience as much as i can minus the gambling which is probably a good thing
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I kinda wish I didn't HAVE to work at times, but I do! As much money as my dad won over the years I didn't see any of it after he passed away. But it's ok. I am making a living for myself and I don't think I could have respected myself living off my daddy's money. It's nice if you don't need to work but for me sometimes I feel like it helps keep me sane at times. There is alot you can do in Vegas besides gambling. There is alot of really good shows you can see. The restaurants are really good. There are also alot of rollercoasters you can ride if your into that and If your anything like me and like to shop there are tons of places to shop too. Take care of yourself and have a good trip.
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Stephanie, I wrote some things back on March 26th about having talked with Nolan Dalla. Did you happen to read what I wrote?
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I watched the movie last night and it stunk, they didn't even included a documentary or anything in the menu or show real pics of Stu in a photo gallery. Who ever was behind the movie was just trying to make a quick buck, the actor playing Stu had none of the charm, charisma or good looks of Stu in his prime or downfall. I would like to caution Steph and friends trying to do a good book or even make a better movie, don't let it become an unrealistic love for the man story, his life should speak for itself, it was roller coaster and celebration of the good and the bad in life and shouldn't be sugar coated or made a tragedy, it was a life and down the corridor of life, just a door along Stu's journey through it. I remember after Elvis died, all the close friends like J.D. Sumner and others saying Elvis never did drugs, he hid it from them that well but it was pretty obvious, pictures don't lie but family and friends are sometimes as blind as a greedy director trying to make a fast buck. Good luck with all your endeavors with getting the true story out there. He was a genious with numbers, tells and instincts and Luck was a Lady to him whenever the cards were in his hand. Shame on any who try to degrade him for having an addiction he couldn't overcome and not being able to gather his "Better Angels" to help him overcome his demons, but every man has them, no one is perfect, everyone has something they are ashamed of and that haunts them so any who try to make themselves better than Stu aren't really looking in the mirror and being honest with themselves.
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Just watched the movie High roller tonight about Stu Ungar...He was indeed the best...I wish the best for his Daughter also..
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The movie was hideous to anyone who has done any research on Stu Ungar. There was one silver lining however; a segment of the movie concerning the '97 World Series of Poker that was a testament to Ungar's brilliance that was not shown on ESPN's hour long edited coverage of the event. In a scene showing the final table, a voiceover said that Ungar raised the blind and/or bet on SEVEN CONSECUTIVE HANDS and each time the table folded around him. No one dared find out if he was bluffing or not. He had everyone at that table psychologically defeated before he officially defeated them. Not many people if any, could do that so effectively. Other highlights: Mr. Miyagi did a superb transition from Daniel San's mentor to the Billy Baxter character; the actor who played the Doyle Brunson character in the '80 WSOP looked 500 lbs. smaller and 500 years older than Brunson; Vince Van Patten turned in his usual sub-par performance as Ungar's golfing and poker buddy. I was looking forward to seeing this film when I first heard of it, but it turned out to be a waste of my time as it was a one-sided production that only shed light on the debauchery of his demons and failed(or didn't care)to focus on as an above poster stated his generosity, charasmatic, and charming attributes. If you haven't seen it, the name Stu Ungar will draw you in but that's as far as it goes. This movie could be light years better if only done by people who cared instead of quick-buck artists or 'college students that started the project the night before it was due'.
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I agree that the movie high roller didn't reflect all of Mr Ungars good qualities, but did in someways reflect some of them such as his skill and the love he had for his family...
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well i am never gambling again i turned 100 dollars into 1000 dollars and lost it all back from now on the only money i will ever have will come from my paychecks i still want to see vegas and will prolly still go but i had my final gambling experience and am now officially retired stefani when i get there i am gonna need a tour guide.
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Hi Stefanie, Posted a question to you awhile back. Just wanted to say a couple of things...I understand why you must not like the movie, as apparently the director used your dad to make some money, if you want to look on the bright side, he did a rather poor job of it, so I doubt his work in the movie advanced his career one bit. I did see the movie, and yes I was dissapointed but I am sure it will inspire people to learn more about your dad and search for true information, so perhaps it is not all bad?? I imagine people on here do not believe your identity in part because there is so much rudeness on here, and probably it surprises them that anyone is willing to take this. I commend you for taking the bad in order to further the good (ie tell us more about your dad).One thing I was thinking about in reference to your dad and wanted to ask you was what do you think the appeal was of him gambling on losers? (craps, horses, sports etc) I understand why some uneducated people do this, but as bright as your dad was he surely knew he was taking much the worst of it in these gambles. Is wanting action the best explanation for it? Isn't poker enough action?Please don't take this point the wrong way, I'm not trying to criticize his choices, as many poker pros today make similiar ones, but wondered if you could shed light on what motivates a highly intelligent person to take these bad bets?Thanks for your time and contributions, David
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If I am not mistaken I think the actor that played Stu in the high roller movie was also the lead actor in a movie called sweet nothing where he was a crack addict.
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In response to chitter23, I already signed the life rights over. I still have alot of say still but I had to do that in order for Simon and Schuster and or any movie deal to go through. So there really isn't anything that I can talk to you about. Also, in response to David Fresne, the only thing I can think of why my dad bet sports and horses the way he did (betting on alot of losers) is because if he bet on something that the odds were against him the payoff would be better. This man beat the odds his whole life so he probably wasn't afraid to go against the odds while betting either. I wish poker was enough for him but it obovisiously wasn't. I wish you all could have seen what it was like for me growing up watching him bet on 3 different games at once. It was quite comical. He would have 3 T.V's going at one time. A big screen, a smaller T.V next to that one and a satelite T.V in the very next room. He would run back in forth from room to room to keep up with the scores. And even sometimes he would have the radio on listening to a game too. Just to let all of you know... We are not sugar coating the book at all. The book is very truthful. I'll be honest, some stuff I really didn't want in there but then I knew if I did it that way it would have defeated part of the main purpose why my dad agreeded to start this book in the first place. It was to help people who might find themselves going down a simuliar path as his. As far as I know at the moment the book will be released on June 19th. I told you all I would keep you posted so you know as much as I do as of now. To the guy who calls himself "DevilDriver" That's really not that cool of a name. Do you honestly want to be known as a Devil Driver? Anyway, mabey that's none of my business but the guy who played my dad in that movie was Michael Imperoli. He plays in the show "The Soprano's" I don't know about the "Sweet Nothing" movie though. Talk to you all another time. Stefanie
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Stefanie, I ran a google search on the movie Sweet Nothing (1996) and it was the same actor (Michael Imperoli) As for the DevilDriver nick it is just the name of one of my favorite rock bands...Nothing sinister...I believe in trying to live as christian as much as possible.
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His supper agressive style of play only worked in tournaments.In cash games, against real players, helost more than he won.
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