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gmctruckman1951 04-12-05 06:00 PM

just like Stephanie said stu's life started downhill when he came t Las vegas....and I truly believe her..that city made many fine ppl bums and loser's. anyone who can will 3 WSOP titles and 3 of the other titles that were mentioned has to be the best therer ever was. cant wait for his book RIP Stuey

dr earle 04-12-05 06:00 PM

Stu was motivated by the challenge and the action of competition and out doing the other guy. The money to him was secondary, it was only the means to get into the excitment of things. Stu was an autistic card savant who had a heart and compassion of gold to boot, a person that if you spent time with would show you things about life and yourself that would change you. If he had a difficulty it wasn't the surface things that most talk about but rather the endless want of 'self' to have the high and 'fix' of challenge and compeating. I don't mean to offend any readers nor give the impression that I know all or have the right to say things about stu (because I don't)but just enough to say that many here who have made comments do so with out the full story. You will be in for a captavating experience when the book comes out by one of the most interesting human beings that has EVER graced the gambling world. pe

Fabian 04-13-05 06:00 PM

just wanted to say stefanie your dad was a great player. I know how hard it is to deal with a parant on drugs because you know what a great person they are outside of the drugs well i just wanted to say that and cant wait for the book oh yeah I used to goto high school with ya i was one of Fernandos (froggy) morenos friends probably dont remember but its cool but i was trippin when i found out he was your dad because i knew of him and how great he was....

Unregistered 04-13-05 06:00 PM

After watching Stu Ungar win 1997 WSOP just this last few weeks, he was the first and only so far poker player I have ever searched for more info on via the internet.Wow what a find and interesting story, and hopefully a great movie someday.Theres just something about him, more than just the great plays he made, but some star quality.Although getting a movie to ever be close to the real life, is unlikely, I loved Bruce Lee and that Dragon movie was poor and missed out all the best Bruce Lee life story bits.Someday, some decent film makers will stumble on the Stu Ungar story, and well have a box office hit. It will be what sends Poker and texas holdem soaring even higher in growing popularity, bring a hude shoal of fish to the poker tables.

Silverback 04-13-05 06:00 PM

Above post was mine, forgot to put my name.Sorry it didnt work out for your father Steph, thats part of the tragedy of the story, hes the only player ive seen hold up a pic of his daughter after winning, and its a shame he didnt sort his life out, but seems that was his destiny.

Stylistic 04-13-05 06:00 PM

The guy that played stu Ungar in the "High Roller" completely sucked ass. Just by watching the WSOP tapes of STu Ungar, that guy did a very poor job of trying to act like Stu Ungar. Also, his features does not loook anything like Stu Ungar. I think the personality is the most important part.

DevilDriver 04-13-05 06:00 PM

Although the movie high roller was poorly done I think because of that movie though which has been playing on satellite TV on the starz channels quite alot lately that it will serve to Stu and Stefanie's advantage by bringing the legend of Stu to millions more people in time for the book release and hopefully a better movie to come in the near future of Stu's life story...One thing that I really liked about the movie though was that I thought it had an awesome musical soundtrack

politazazn 04-14-05 06:00 PM

I think Stu may have had his priorities straight.Money is a tool in money-games...and so is fear. As it says in the book of Proverbs..."the timid become destitute, but the aggressive gain riches." I think Stu may have mastered selective aggression, and if I had a hero...he would be it.

anonymous 04-14-05 06:00 PM

to stefanie, your father would be proud. can't wait for the book!

anonymous 04-14-05 06:00 PM

its title should be wunderkind: the story of stu ungar

NPerot 04-14-05 06:00 PM

Dear Stefanie, I think it is great that you are going to write a book about your dad. A lot of people such as myself can not wait for it to come out. I never new your father, but in my gut I feel like I did. I read all these articles on the net and can't help but notice all the similarities we have. I think a lot of ignorant people are to quick to judge somebody. I also think it is a shame that when the name Stu Ungar comes up, people usually have something negative to say, overlooking his brilliance and all the great things he has accomplished. I recently took a trip out to Vegas to play poker and visit some family, and the funniest thing happened. I was playing in a NL tourney at Binion's and at the break I went over to the gallery of champions. I seen the picture they have your father, who I am the biggest fan of. I gently rubbed the name of the late great Stu Unger, and said "Rest in Peace Stuey". After that I went back to my table and the next five hands i recieved were all pocket pairs. There was an unbelievable fealing I got inside, that whenever I looked at my first card I just new the next card was going to pair. I ended up finishing in third place, but deep down in my heart I think your father had something to do with it. So at the end of the tourney I went back over to picture and said "Thanks Stuey". I never was fortunate enough to sit down and play with your old man, but just to have that exciting experiance I felt like I have. But anyways, I hope you get a chance to read my story and i wish you and your family nothing but the best. R.I.P Stu Ungar. Sincerely MPerot

Stefanie Ungar 04-15-05 06:00 PM

Fabian,of course I remember you. Tell Fernando I said "hi." Is he still with Shirly? Anyway, that's cool you are a fan of my dad's. For the most part, all of you guys are really cool on here and that's why I come on this site to begin with. If I was a fan of someone and they had a website I would love to talk to them. Of course I am not my dad but I guess I am the next best thing to actually being able to talk to him. He is half of me right? There are so many stories about him out there that arn't true and I feel I can kinda cancle some of those out with sharing with you all ACTUAL TRUE stories about him and his life. My mom and I are planing an offical website of him. I'll keep you all posted on that too. Stefanie

Darren 04-16-05 06:00 PM

I saw the Stuey movie its called high roller now. NOT TO GOOD.You can get it at a best buy or rent it at block buster. The goods are in the book. I know one thing that will be in the book, Stu and his friend walked around with 200k in a paper bag then...? lol cant say, but stefanie I used to talk with Nolan, its been about a year though. I know a few insiders about the book. I wrote on another site with you stefanie, if you remember, but I dont like that site anymore. I stop by your dads grve somtimes cause my aunt is buried on the other side. doesnt it say on his head stone 'a great man but an even greater loss and a beloved father. If you see Nolan befor this WSOP tell him Darren said hi if you dont mind..

Stefanie Ungar 04-17-05 06:00 PM

Yes, that's what is says. I was the one who thought to put that. Because he was a great person, but an even greater loss. What I ment by that was he really was such a great person but he realy was a greater loss in so many ways... Poker World, My World, and many other ways. Stefanie

Darren 04-19-05 06:00 PM

Did you ever meet your Dad's Mother befor stefanie? Do you know any of the Ungar side of your famly? Just wondering.

Darren 04-19-05 06:00 PM

Hay frddifish, Ill see you in the 2007 wsop and make sure you lose. If you ever come to vegas post it and we will meet to play heads up.

Stefanie Ungar 04-19-05 06:00 PM

No, she died before I was born. Both of my grandparents died before I was born. I met my dad's sister when I was 2 yrs old but that was it. She has died too.

Darren 04-19-05 06:00 PM

Well I was reading what Mike said, what a weridOOO.. My girlfriend is being bugged by a man who she only talked to for about 5 min about me and her. Now he goes to her work mad at her cause she didnt go to his work to talk ever again. We might have to get a restraining order on him. Or beat him up. I dont think that would be good cause if that happens he might just follow her home and get worse. Damn, Stefanie you must get those kinda freaks asking or begging you to meet them every day.

Darren 04-19-05 06:00 PM

Ok Mike, firt things first, you cant get loste in vegas and theres plenty of bumms who wouldnt mind being your friend just buy them a beer and thay will be yours forever.

Kate 04-19-05 06:00 PM

Hi Stefanie, I'm glad to see what a gracious, spiritually grounded young woman you've turned out to be. I'm sure your dad has been grateful for who you are and that you're honoring his memory without trying to make him appear any different than he was. Thanks for continuing to communicate on this list and ignoring the foolishness. I knew your dad in '81-'83, when you were very little. You, his baby girl, were the one thing that seemed real and important to him. Yeah, he had money and action flying all around him, but he'd was living in an empty house and when he wasn't gambling he seemed much like a lost child. I was a professional blackjack player at the time, Stuey's age, and was in awe of him. We used to hang out some and had a bunch of mutual gambling acquaintances. Your dad could be totally self-absorbed yet also sweet and generous like people have said. One morning after gambling all night he invited me over for breakfast and had pretty much nothing but a couple of eggs in the refrigerator. He fried them up and showed me baby pictures of you. I don't remember anything else we talked about but I've remembered your name all these years. I have no doubt that you, the person who is posting on this list, are for real. Anyway, back then nobody would play gin with Stuey because he was known to be unbeatable, even when he offered them ridiculous advantages. So he'd turned to poker and had already won the WSOP. When I first met him he was learning backgammon by playing against the best players-- he lost to my friends at first, but he was learning from everything that happened and by the end of the week he may have recovered his losses to them with a little poker. But then he'd go and blow what seemed to me obscene amounts of money on some crazy golf bets. He seemed to be playing his own unique game with life and I could never figure it out. That wasn't my style at all-- I'd carefully save up my winnings and after one good tournement I moved to Santa Barbara and said goodbye to the casinos.I've felt a bit richer from knowing your dad. He had all the problems that everyone knows about, but he always seemed larger than life-- a reminder that even with brilliance and money we can put ourselves through hell, and yet with all its craziness this world can be magic. Even now I get a smile thinking about his grin and his sweetness and his intensity.May the Kid rest in peace, and may you, stefanie, live in the peace that you seem to have found. Kate

chitter23 04-20-05 06:00 PM

Stephanie, I appreciate your response to my question about the rights to Nolan Dalla's book and the life rights of you and your father. If you don't mind, is there a studio or producer who currently is taking on the project? Whoever has the rights, I hope they don't mess it up like the makers of High Roller. Thanks for your time Stephanie, I really appreciate it.

jimG 04-23-05 06:00 PM

I knew Ungar a bit in the 1970's, saw him play. He played in a club on 70th street in New York. Was a good guy, but a soft touch, was always helping out deadbeats. He had a lot of hangers on even then. He did lose sometimes, I don't think he really got great till he was in Vegas a few years. He had a few real friends, but mostly people looking for money when he won. His best friends were mostly old men, one guy was Victor who owned club he usually played in---and who made him a better card player. He also had a bunch of old men from downtown New York he would go out with to gamble. It is shame he did drugs, he was great, and wining world series of poker 3 times over 17 year period is great acomplishment, not something luck brings.

jimg 04-23-05 06:00 PM

and by the way, movie was bullshit

Stylistic 04-24-05 06:00 PM

many years ago when i saw that movie's website, I was very disappointed because I was so touched by Stu's life and I knew that this movie was going to be a piece of sh*t film. I hope the world ignores this film and hope that a better one will come out. To be honest, I know what it'll take for the a Stu Ungar film to be good. In fact, I'm waiting on Nolan Dalla's book to come out to see how he wrote Stu's life story. To be honest Stephanie, here is one advice that I will tell you now when Nolan's book is out. If there is potential in which a Studio wants to make a film about your father, I would decline, unless you're there to make money which i can tell is not the case. I say, wait a few more years. THe world, and the general audience has to learn poker. They have to know it like how they know baseball. POker is going in that direction and all it needs is time. Once that has been set, the world will truly be amazed by Stu Ungar's abilities. Right now the only kind of people that understand Ungar's abilities are the ones that DO PLAY POKER. That's why we're all touched because we know the difficulties. HOwever, the GENERAL audience doesn't yet. But soon they will. Be patient on the movie, let the book come out.

Unregistered 04-24-05 06:00 PM

you sound like an idiot

Unregistered 04-24-05 06:00 PM

Stylistic = idiot

GBS 04-25-05 06:00 PM

no screen name = idiot more.

billybat65 04-25-05 06:00 PM

Dear Stephanie,After so many discussions with your father about you in 1998,I know that he would be extremely proud of you after seeing how you respected and admired him through all these wonderful things you have written on this website.Bill S.

Unregistered 04-25-05 06:00 PM

bull $hit billyrat!

Stefanie Ungar 04-25-05 06:00 PM

Are you the guy I met at the Goldcoast in 1998 with my dad?

Unregistered 04-26-05 06:00 PM

of cours hes going to say yes. if he meet you he woulda braught that up to.

Stefanie Ungar 04-26-05 06:00 PM

Ok then. If you happen to be the Bill I think I may have met can you tell me where we went to eat first because the guy above has a point. I am usually smarter then that.

Unregistered 04-27-05 06:00 PM

they need to remake the stu ungar movie with a bigger budget and use the real names who did they have working the sounds chim chim right when the pop music ends when his

Unregistered 04-27-05 06:00 PM

wife shows him the new home you here a car alarm and when hes at the bus stop you see a 2003 trans am drive by and the time is supposed to be 1997.

Darren 04-27-05 06:00 PM

Im the guy above who has a point. Everone claims to be a friend or a famly member or something but none of us but Stefanie know anything about Ungar. Im on here to ask Stefanie about him so I know more about the one of a kind guy. Im sorry but if you cant write anything that hasnt been writen dont write like you where Ungars best friend. I notice that everyone said thay knew him or met him. Stefanie you went to BishupGormen high school on maryland and okey? I live right next to it. If you went there.

peeps 04-30-05 06:00 PM

i think stu ungar was good but nick the greek was better in cash games both were good gamblers in poker!

Dan 04-30-05 06:00 PM

I never seen the movie about Stu Ungar, but just recently read a few articles written about him in a poker magazine called card player which discussed his rise to a great poker player and his uncanny ability to play gin and read the cards. I do feel that many card players resepected him and also envied him. I'm sure he broke many egos. As far as I'm concerned I'm convinced by what was said about Stu Ungar and his titles that there will never be a better poker player than him. If you were to compare him to the players today I feel that there would be no comparison. He would dominate the field in "poker" but he loved action and bet on just about anything. When Stu Ungar died the world lost a true Poker and Gin Legend. Let us respect him for who he was and never ridicule him, becaue none of us here in this forum has walked in his shoes so therefore we have no right to pass judgement. I feel that we should all appreciate the fact that Stefanie has taken the time from her own life to write a book about her father and also has provided imput on this forum. I bet Stu would have walked all over all the players today if were with us now.

arnold- advibe 05-01-05 06:00 PM

Stephanie,please send me an email asap.

Unregistered 05-02-05 06:00 PM

This Guy Is The Man. I've Played With Him Back In The Old Days.. Althought Not Poker, But Golf. I Am A Better Player Than Him, He Suck At Golf I Ended Up Making $215,000 From Him Even Thought I Gaved Him A Handicap! Fuking Unbelievable. He Rules At Poker, Im Not Really A Friend Of His, But I Like To Bet On Golf With Him ;) It Was A Good Move By Me ;)

tiny tim 05-02-05 06:00 PM

dear stefanie where is your dad buried


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