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tedtodd25 09-14-04 06:00 PM

ONLINE POKER - SITE - Bodog
 
You won't find more degenerate gamblers anywhere....I've done very well at both the 2/4limit and NL50 tables. lot's of chasers and all-ins hoping to be WSOP champions.software- C+

jordan 09-26-04 06:00 PM

there aren't many players of many tables but easier money you wont find anywhere. anywhere. right now im paying the rent off it

lovetopolka 10-10-04 06:00 PM

oh bodog how i love thee... these sports betting fools don't seem to understand that you shouldn't call capped betting preflop with J2 off... but i don't mind... SHOW ME THE MONEY!!!

vegasholdem.tripod.com 10-16-04 06:00 PM

The software is fast and you can upload your own pic; which is cool!

kotong 12-08-04 06:00 PM

Software is kinda' jittery; lots of disconnections.Players are okay, lots of chasers and pseudo-masters.

the truth 12-19-04 06:00 PM

most unreal hands Ive ever seen people constantly get quads and straight flushes. I havent done bad there but some of the beats are horrendous. I much prefer UB or any of the Prima poker sites seem way more realistic

EagleScout 12-29-04 06:00 PM

Colors do not work well on lap top and the notification buzzer can make you umpopular at work, but the site does have weak players. Tables selection is limited. One more reminder how hard it is to out do Party.

IveyWannabe3. 12-31-04 06:00 PM

this site has the worst beats that will lose you money, plus they disconnect you during a bighand and will fold your hand way too often easy money though

Unregistered 01-15-05 06:00 PM

the players are loose and the bad beats are horrendous; I lose my first $20 right off the boat and it's not like I'm a bad player because I have won a lot on other sites. I play only premium hands and I got rivered and sucked out twice, which ate up most of my bankroll. I may be quick to judge on this site for my first deposit but as far as it goes I don't think I'll ever play on here ever again. Stick to pokerstars, they're still the best.

jcdgoad 01-30-05 06:00 PM

I just love this site. Lotsa easy money and the software is nice too. The bonus of $100 for a $100 deposit is incredible too. Some of the loosest games on the net.

dbronson26 02-16-05 06:00 PM

This is an above average site to play some poker. The games are fast and loose and money can be made! I know its easy to say that when you are winning and its just as easy to chastise when you are losing. But so far my initial deposite of the min, has tripled. I am not playing cards to make a living just to have some entertainment value. This is def. the site to check out.

allinaces 02-21-05 06:00 PM

Heard about the poor players but i lost my 200 deposit with some unbelievable beats, don't know what you can do... i'm sticking with party. At least it has the volume to multitable whatever you want.

Dallasrounder 02-22-05 06:00 PM

I HATE bodog! Yeah there are some crappy players, and you'll make some off their looseness, but the bad beats are HORRIBLE. Being tight really doesn't work either, because there are enough sharks now to make that unprofitable. Also, the traffic here sucks, can never get a full game before 7 pm. I burned through my $250 in no time - back to UB where the play is actually rational.

echio 03-17-05 06:00 PM

when i first began playing bodog in it's early developments, i could always count on making a profit. whether it was a cash game or single table tourney. the site has become looser ( bad beats are atrcious)and the players are 75% dead money. i even layed off A/10 and K/J and i would still get hammered with a 2 pair of A/2 or K/5 off suite.i'm in quest for a quality player site. see you at the final table!

gman2984 04-02-05 06:00 PM

BEWARE!!!! By far the worst site out there. I am not an amateur. I have been playing poker for 15 years+ and the beats on this site are absolutely unreal. If you don't believe me ..play for 5 minutes and you will see what I am talking about. I'll give you some numbers i have calculated over a few months.- 7 or 8 out of 10 hands there is a flush out there- 8 out of 10 hands there are 2 of the same card out there- pockets rockets (A A) lose 65% of the time you play them or call them pre-flop all in!- 6 out of 10 hands there is a straight and a flush out there! VERY SHADY site...BEWARE!!

gman2984 04-02-05 06:00 PM

To add one more thing... the class of people on this site are also the lowest of the low. Always something crude and cocky to say when someone wins or loses.

pahdukes 04-05-05 06:00 PM

Terrible. Simply Terrible!!!! There really is something shady about this site. DO NOT PLAY BODOG if you know what is good for you.

raymann 04-21-05 06:00 PM

I thought well let`s try it because i could get 100 if i signt up using cardplayer as referal.I did not have the full 100 in my account at neteller, i use 2 accounts one from myself and the other from my mother.Double bonus whoring ... You know what i mean...I thought well let`s check out the fish.And i wanted to sit down (i payed the money an hour ago) and buy in ....They locked my account becose i used my mothers neteller.What an idiots what do they want that i register again with my mothers id and then whore them on my mothers account.But now i am happy to get my money back(still not in my account back at neteller, while it takes 1 minut to get in there it takes a few days i think to get it out.But when i read your ratings i am a happy man.I will use my party bonus 100$ max. with 50% bonus.And empire is also better then these idiots at bodog.Have a nice weekend.Have luck at the tables and play with your mind.The Raymann

5iveofaKind 04-24-05 06:00 PM

My perception of this site has totally changed after an insurmountable number of bad beats and suckouts. I did so well here for my first deposit but after I cashed out and made a second reload, everything completely changed. Bad beats left and right.. 2,3,4 outers hit on the river, etc. it seems like if there's a 3 way all-in, the worst hand somehow wins it on the river 70% of the time.. this is the same party poker crap you should try to avoid..

capa 04-29-05 06:00 PM

Similar complaints to above. I can play the 5-20$ sit and gos and finish in money 60-75% and win around 35%. The first time I wanted to cash out, suddenly started getting horrible beats. Chalked that up to coincidence. Filed for a cash out this week, that same night began string of ridiculous beats again. 4 times in a row, with dominating hands, get called all in by people with a gutshot straight draw (only river left). ALL 4 TIMES GUTSHOT HITS. Been doing stat work on these last two days...flush draws are hitting against me at over 60% vs. 15% when I have one. My pocket pairs HAVE NOT tripped once in the last two days(over 40 hands with pockets). KK and AA have been cracked over 75% of the time. Head to head hands that I dominate are falling at about the same rate as AA and KK (i.e. AQ vs Q6, fish gets 5789 to hit board).I'm really at a loss to explain this. The gutshot straight 4 times in a row, for example, is about 15000 to 1 to happen. Couple with everything else, there is no mathematical explanation other than fishy software. It is definately in bodog's interests to keep money in their banks, since they earn interest and as long as the money flows on the tables they continue to rake in the ring games and make the entry fees in the tourneys. STAY AWAY.

qwerasdf 05-06-05 06:00 PM

I think people are just retarded. If you get bad beat at online poker, it's cuz you suck. It isn't rigged. For everyone 100 times you go in with AK suited, those pocket 2s will beat you around 50 times. People just OVERESTIMATE their odds. Stop blaming the sites and blame yourself. I've played 10,000 hands at Bodog. How long does it take to play 10k hands in person? I've seen bad beats in person too, not htat many, but obviously I haven't played AS MANY hands.So what. Bodog is easy money for me. If you know how to control yourself, online poker = easy money. So if you lose and you think you're good in person, then maybe online poker just isn't you.

John. 05-06-05 06:00 PM

Considering the quantity of hands i see your point, HOWEVER, the bad beats that happen on this site are just laugh out loud funny...granted this happens on other sites as well and occasionaly in person but compared to other well known and accredited sites, such as Pokerstars, and Ultimate Bet, this site is a joke. Ask anyone around who actually knows the game of poker and they will tell you the same. If you're winning on bodog great. All this site is, is one big slot machine. Usually the low percentage unfavored hand wins 70% of the time as opposed to real life where generally it happens FAR, FAR less. So my advice is to stay on bodog... that is where all, and i do mean ALL the fish play. Just would love to see people like this try their LUCK over at Pokerstars or in person. Now that would truly be laugh out loud funny.

arms 05-08-05 06:00 PM

I play all over, compulsive gambler i guess. butthis site starts out ok but there security is so lax. i didnt even have to do a authorization form and instantly i had 500 to spend, next all i had to do is call and get an increase before the 500 cleared. anyone could really rip someone off here. the game play was so so. i agree many newbies or dumb asses but the whole if i had a friends check book or a friend had mine. or worse. an anybody.. there security is majory flawed

Fuchida 05-11-05 06:00 PM

If you like action, this is the site for you. However, the number of bad beats and cold deck situations is amazing so if you want anything like poker reality, avoid the site. Very low probability situations happen every few hands. I have played several other sites, including Party, and nothing compares to Bodog in that regard. I have played bodog for 2-3 months because I like the reload bonuses and I haven't noticed any correlation between cashouts and bad luck and I think that ould be almost impossible to program anyway. The sort of good news is that the draws out affect everyone equally but the sheer number of them means that chasers do not do as badly as on other sites. What makes me most suspicious is that they will not allow downloading of hand histories in the same way as other sites so there is no way to analyse a large number of hands as you can as on Party, PokerStars, etc. Although I have made reasonable money from Bodog, its because I have adopted a defensive style that assumes major draw outs and bad beats happen a lot more often than normal. I try to avoid the inevitable drawouts, or at least lessen their impact, and make more money when I hit one of the regular monster hands. When I clear my current bonus though I am going to change sites as the situation has reached ridiculous proportions in recent weeks. I find myself typing 'amazing' at least ten times per day and that is only for hands in which I am involved. As I said at the start, if your interest in poker is fun and action and you aren't too bothered about making lots of money, this site will be fine. Those with tilty tendencies stay away for the good of your health.

SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT 05-11-05 06:00 PM

This is from a message board i recently viewed..just something to think about next time u step into an online poker room. NotMe | March 21, 2005 04:55 PM Hello NotMe, I'm also making a poker bot. Can you please give me more info about what you know to avoid the detection of a bot by a poker room? What do you mean by "own mouse driver with smart moving". Can we use the user32 functions to click. Is it necessary to move the pointer before clicking?"There are also many other featuers that bot should have to avoid detection"Can you talk more about that? You can write me an email to [email]poko_653@htomail.com[/email]. Thanks a lot. Maybe will we exchange some techniques. PokoPoko | March 24, 2005 09:55 AM I have had bots running online for over a year without detection. I am sure there are many more however every bot programmer I have come across has lost because he knew nothing about playing good poker. Creating the interface is easy but creating a bot that wins consistantly is beyond what most people have the time for. Pistachio | April 12, 2005 11:59 PM Hello Pistachio, On what AI techniques did you base your bot? Stuff like probability triple? Thanks for the input, cheers,tom Tomy | April 15, 2005 03:27 AM

Trey03 05-13-05 06:00 PM

BODOG is a setup........... good luck with AA

buttsecks 05-19-05 06:00 PM

Anyone who says that poker is rigged is nothing but a bad player and a fool. I bet alot of the times people catch on the river, they bet big, and YOU stupidly call. YOU. Like someone once said, people can't blame themselves for their crappy play, so they blame the site to cover up for their sheer suckness. Great, fun site. Good play money games for those interested. Easy to win if you're good - easy to derive false rigged allegations from if your a crap player.

AA works for me 05-21-05 06:00 PM

One time i got AA an amazing 4 times in a sit and go (most ive ever gotten at any site) and I won all four times. I bet the people that lose with AA are stupid fools that just call preflop looking to re-raise a raiser. When nobody raises and the flop is 245, and you lose to the small blind's 36 suited, guess who's fault it is...why, it's your fault! If you raise big preflop with AA, alot of times you will just take down the blinds. But on this site, so many people with crap hands may call. You want this. I've had stretches of over 25 AA's without losing a single one. You should at least be glad that AA hardly ever loses to KK on here. AA is still the best hand, and wins more often than any other hand does heads up on BoDog.

Your statistics suck 05-21-05 06:00 PM

People who keep saying "oh 8 out of 10 times there's a flush aha im so good at making stuff up" are idiots. People who say "AA loses 65% of the time in 2 players all in"...really, how pathetic does it seem? The last poster is right about AA and that just calling preflop is dumb.

George 05-23-05 06:00 PM

Anyone successful on Bodog is obviously a fish because percentages do not even come into play on this site. You maydeswell flip a coin or go play a slot machine. I'm not a big conspiracy theorist, but spend your money on another site if you are a good player and serious about the game, otherwise your going to need a punching bag next to your computer. Pokerstars works fine for me. You know...a site where people actually know how to play, and card percentages actually matter.P.S. to the last post... calling AA heads up pre flop.. actually..not a bad idea in real life..on Bodog..the worst idea in the world... because this site is unrealistic and is indeed not even poker at all. The percentage of 65% of the time AA loses pre-flop heads up is probably about right on Bodog. In real life more like 10%.

Let's be realistic 05-24-05 06:00 PM

I always laugh when I see people complaining about suckouts and spinning conspiracy theories. Let's think about this people:Bodog is making a killing on the rake and doesn't need to convince gamblers to stick around.Most of the conspiracy theories that surround this are laughable. We all know gamblers and we all know that they don't quit because of losing money to non-rigged boards. Bodog does not need to rig the board to encourage play, gamblers don't need that encouragement.The cashout theory is so outlandish that I won't dignify it with a response.The fact is that Bodog, because of its connection to the sports book, hauls in tons of fish who play a thousand times looser than your average casino. They LOSE money, thousands of dollars. For every suckout they hit, they chase a dozen hands that don't materialize. The problem here is that when a lot of fish all chase, the variance at the table rises sharply - but if you adjust well, so do your profits. The biggest mistake that solid players make at a site like Bodog is trying to play the same way they would against veterans at a casino. You will get sucked out more on Bodog - MUCH more, but when you take down pots they will be bigger. You just have to adjust.Unlike other posters on this site, I don't think most of you suck. You're probably good, tight players. Although I suspect some of you are too weak-tight and need to take on these fish more aggressively and stop worrying about suckouts - they happen.1. DO NOT SLOWPLAY: Make these fish pay for their draws. With 8 players chasing, giving free cards is suicide. Raise and re-reaise, aggressive. When you do get sucked out on, this will hurt, but you must build big pots on your quality hands and refused to be scared off by all the drawers. Winning one huge pot will make up for 2-3 of the suckouts, if not more.2. ADJUST YOUR STARTING HANDS: Suited connectors and low pocket pairs rise exponentially in value in games like these. Weak players almost never will suspect your set when you hit it and you can get nearly unlimited action if they catch a big pair or two pair. Play Ax suited from any position, but be smart and ditch if your kicker is weak and you didn't flop two pair or a good draw. Big, unsuited hands plummet in value. Drop those KJo in early and middle position, can the KQo after a raise. PREPARE MENTALLY: So often, I see quality players tilt hard on these tables. They take 3-4 suckouts in a row and suddenly start thinking 'Well, if he can win with 74o so can I. Take responsibility for your own demise. Suckouts don't kill good players, but suckouts that lead to poor, stubborn, tilting play can erase bankrolls in a hurry.CALCULATE YOUR ODDS: Many of you are probably missing your chances at huge pots on longshots. Inside straight draws are rarely correct to pursue in a tight casino game - but on sites like Bodog you are often correct to call, even without an overcard. Bodog and sites like Party are a goldmine. But, you must adjust to playing wioh people who have no idea what they're doing. Drop all your fancy semibluffs, checkraises on the flop and scare-card bluffs ... THESE PEOPLE DON"T GET IT. Poker betting is a language, and when you check raise to a veteran your telling them that your hand is strong (even if you're lying). But these newbies don't understand the language, your bets sound like the schoolteacher on Peanuts to them. Play straight up, aggressive and adjust your starting hands. Get ready for the bad beats, laugh them off and get back to work taking these fishes' money.

ANONYMOUS 05-27-05 06:00 PM

Why do these gamblers always seem to hit? This site is quite shady. Especially in sit and go tournements.Its like when I play there I expect Q 10 to beat QQ preflop. Aces get cracked over and over and over. They are supposed to hold up heads up preflop 4 out of 5 times-- HA! Not here!!If my opponent has less than 5 outs at least 50% of the time they catch one of them. Happens over and over and over again. I am a pretty good player who 90% of the time gets his money in with the best of it but for some reason I lose 80% of the time. And I'm not slowplaying either.I decided to try this site because of the generous bonus but it was fools gold. Bad beats occur on all sites as they should BUT this site is TOTALLY RIDICULOUS. I totally recommend this site if you are not a good player or just like to play for entertainment value only. I agree with the other poster if you play super conservative and know that the draws are coming you may be able to squeak out a profit. But thats not fun poker to me doubting the integrity of where you are playing.

crumpet 05-28-05 06:00 PM

Very bad,I e-mailed their support about the bad beats and they e-mailedback a lot of garbage about nothing . STAY AWAY.

lololol 05-29-05 06:00 PM

This site is the biggest damn joke in the world!!!!!!! You had better bring the lube to the computer desk when you play here....Don't try to play real poker or make intelligent calculations..just play like a frigin moron and you should be successful...that style of play never fails here!!!!

bookie 06-09-05 06:00 PM

Love it. Great site for the poker player and sports bettor. I usually play in the morning, and what ever I make head over to the book and bet the profit on the games. Not like Intertops (Party skin) where transfers can take 1/2 an hour (yet I love the Party fish and can always make money there). Easier than Bet Holdem (Prima Skin) to BetWWTS, b/c you don't actually have to make a transfer(although the transfer is easy and quick and I'd give them a 10 too). Not like Pacific where it takes like 2 years to get a payout. Bottom line is its a great site for the diversified investor who wants liquidity in their funds.Played all the sites and play for hours at the B&M's (Commerce, Bicycle, etc. in LA). I see no difference to this and the real world. As for bad beats, they just happen more online b/c there are just more fish online. For every 10 times you take money from the fish, every once in a while you get a fish who will bite back. (ie. How could he call me with only an inside straight draw? or how could he call my raise with a 6 8 off suit?, but that's what fish do and every once is a while you say wtf. Same things happen at the b&m's when all the sharks look for the tourist. Tourist gets lucky once in a while. You get bad beats, but that's poker.

Action 06-25-05 06:00 PM

Complaining about bad beats is counterproductive. Typing nasty things to them is also counterproductive. If someone is chasing their inside straight and make it they will win. If they miss they will lose. They will fold on the river to a moderate bet. The problem is that most people feel they need to chase out the chaser with a big river bet. Sorry it is too late now. If he hit he is going to raise your big bet and most of you with your bad beat stories will call. But if he misses he will fold to a moderate bet. People should welcome the chasers. If you play smart and disciplined you can clean up against these people. But you cannot play the same against them that you do against experienced players. You have to drop fancy play syndrome and simply play straight forward good poker. Keep opening the door for them to make bad plays. Make correct bets based on the odds and allow them to play low percentage hands. You will win enough that way to make it worthwhile. Don't always look for the big big pot. Those pots will happen in time. Don't force it against a guy that doesnt really know what he is doing. He thinks poker is simply gambling and will put his money in with just about anything. Thats what gamblers do. Make him pay little by little with solid play and dont get sucked into playing bad just because your opponents are. And remember most time these people are not bluffing when they go all in. Stop calling them with marginal holdings. And those of you with bad beat memories ought to simply reload and lick your chops at the opportunity to win.The ones that complain about withdrawing money then getting bad beats after that are really searching for reasons to justify bad luck or bad play. The amount of programming involved to single out a particular player -- no wait, every player that withdrew money (after all you arent special to them) -- and give them good cards (because you are good enough not to play the bad cards) that will lost to better cards -- but wait you dont lose to better cards you lose to the suckouts which means now that they have to allow for the bad players to play the bad cards poorly enough that they suck out on you.. just imagine the amount of planning for that.. you cant give bad cards to good players to beat you.. the good players dont play those cards.. so bodog has to figure out who the bad players are.. but how.. according to the bad beat whiners the bad players are winners.. but a lot of good players are winners too.. so how does bodog figure out exactly who to give the bad cards to and who to give the good cards to?this is really confusing.. i couldnt imagine programming it..

ANONYMOUS 07-02-05 06:00 PM

I have deposited 3 times here and each time same things happen. Unbelieveable. I have played at 15+ other sites and from what I have seen I am sorry I don't think this is a coincidence. Not going to play here anymore no matter how good the bonus (in theory) is. Whatever characteristics I have (how I bet, not playing sportsbook, etc) the website doesn't seem to like me. I will play elswehere :(

Hansi Schaffer 07-07-05 06:00 PM

When I first learned how to play Hold 'Em, I signed up on Bodog because it also had the Sportsbook and an excellent bonus policy. As a beginner, I had a very limited pool of poker knowledge. I played any suited cards and any ace. I rarely raised. I chased every draw to the river, regardless of the pot odds. After a month of playing almost exclusively on Bodog, I turned my starting bankroll of $50 into $1150. I figured if I did that well that quickly without studying the game, just imagine what I could accomplish if I educated myself. So I read up on a number of texts by Sklansky, took a wealth of information from Hellmuth's book, and watched Mike Caro's videos. That's when it all went downhill on Bodog. I knew I was a much stronger player than I used to be, because I was winning on the other sites and learned from the mistakes I previously made, but I stuck with Bodog the most because of the weakness of the majority of players and because I could cash out a few hundred and then re-load with it a few days later and get the 20% bonus. In the next two weeks, I saw my $1150 dwindle down to $300 on suck-out after suck-out. People were taking my money in the same manner that I had previously taken it from others. Even the higher limits had really poor players (most likely the degenerate gamblers and rich kids with money to burn). Sure, bad beats will happen, but what goes on at Bodog surpasses any statistical logic. I managed to get all my money in with pocket aces before the flop four consecutive times and they were cracked every time. Two-outers were hitting on the river like a plague. My friend was suffering the same fate, so he even went so far as to intentionally play like an idiot one night and won $100 in 15 minutes on the $.50/1 NL tables, with moves such as going all-in after the flop with a three flush and telling the other players not to call, and when they did and he hit the runners, proceeded to laugh at them for getting "Bodogged." On top of all this, it's still a small site compared to the PartyPokers and UltimateBets of the world, and with the best bonus around and their guaranteed money tournaments that almost always have a significant shortfall, I can't fathom how they profit from poker except for a system that rewards the bad players (as I admittedly used to be) to keep them around for low limit rakes (and it surely worked on me). Thus, I give Bodog a 2 rather than a 1, because of said bonus policy.

Hansi Schaffer 07-07-05 06:00 PM

Also, I wholeheartedly agree with the earlier post that mentioned the class of players. This site definitely has the most uncouth people you'll ever encounter. If you lose a pot, you suck. If you win a pot, you're a lucky fish. Most Bodog tables are nothing more than a pissing contest, with players trading insults back and forth.

homervdoh 07-08-05 06:00 PM

well, i jsut went back to bodog after a 2 month layoff where i played party poker, UB, and ultra generic (but not rigged) sports interaction poker. boy did bodog reward me handsomely for coming back. first hand i got AA, raised preflop, one caller, raised after the flop, he folded. i showed my cards and said "surprised they were good here for once" and got LOLs from everyone probably thinking "yeah, i hear you". 2nd hand is the real kicker. it was .10/.25 no limit room, i was in the small blind, out of position, one guy raised to .50, one called, i called with 77. flop was 10 8 2 with 2 clubs. one guy bet out $2, i call knowing a suckout's coming, another guy calls. turn is an A. one guy bets $2.50, one raises to $5, i call, other guy calls. river is a 7 naturally. i go all in, guy calls with A 8 and cusses me out. i'm up $35 in 2 hands playing as badly as possible. go bodog. if you don't believe me ask that pocket_pimp guy who's at the tables right now steaming (and probably therefore winning).


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