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KeepItConstructive 11-23-08 04:57 AM

To 'ThankGod4Donks' comments,

If you want folks to listen, place reason without attacking the folks who've posted. Calling someone's comments 'stupid', calling everyone here 'crybabies', and attacking the quality of their gameplay will not prove anything.

So, speaking of 'stupid', 'crybabies', and 'gameplay', go back and read your post. You contradict yourself with crying about collusion, sophisticated bots, and hacks. After you cry about these items, you demand evidence to convince you about deals?...and add within your comments "Don't get me wrong..."? Seriously, do you really think anyone will listen to you after jabbing at their abilities or questioning their intelligence?

All you've done is convince readers that you are hypocritical, can't recognize your own double-standards, not a good writer, or simply dumb.

Thus, after you've "steamed" about this post, perhaps you should play an online game or two. After you lose, just blame it on your hacks, bots, and collusion...heck, sounds like you've already got your excuses ready. By the way, you got any hard-and-fast evidence about your 'bots'?

P.S. - Why would anyone think you work for the 'site'? Is it because of how certain you are of hacks and bots? What's next?...aliens? Bigfoot?

eldave1 11-24-08 11:28 AM

Just for fun - try this for an experiment at FT. Either play or observe a table. Count the number of times at least two cards of the same suit hit the flop. Everything I looked at says it is around a 12% probability. I have now counted 400 flops - I am at 55% (that's right - 55% of the time two cards of the same suite hit the flop) - Only 400 hands - but wow. Thought it might be a fun experiment for us to try since it is easy to do.

donx 12-01-08 04:13 PM

This is the worst ever. Yesterday I wanted to kill myself due to the third one-outer in just 20 minutes. I lost over $3,000 due to bad beats. My kings lost to ace-x 94 out of 127 times. My aces lost 49% of the times. While looking at QJ, board QJ2Q, my opponent moved in with aces and i knew what the river would be... exactly. I just lost another $100 to full tillt joker poker. This is rigged as hell, I just sent them an e-mail with a lot of questions. How can I move in with the best of it almost every time and lose? If i see those creators i'll rip them apart, that's for sure.

kinjesus 12-01-08 05:32 PM

Where to begin....
I know people here have varying opinions as to whether this site(or any other in some cases!)is rigged,so i thought i would throw my penny into the mix.
Every instinct tells me that this site is rigged,the cards are ridiculous,as a couple of examples(trust me,there are MANY more!)
1 I am dealt kk,flop comes down kk9,i go all in,and get called by AA,turn is A,river is A,i almost dismantle my monitor with my bare hands!(I dont know odds,but please guys,no-one patronise me by saying this proves nothing)
2 im dealt qq,guy raises me,so i go all in,hes got 9 j off,flop comes down,10 K 6,turn 2,river q(one of the other players on the table says he had a q so the guy the only remaining q,and on the river too),coincidence? possibly,but more evidence of schonkiness of this excuse for a poker site.
I know a couple of anecdotal instances dont make a watertight case,but these are only the most recent,judge for yourselves guys,but i wont be giving this sorry excuse for a poker site any more of my childrens inheritance!
So to paraphrase Leonard Nimoy,its poker Jim,but not as we know it.

ThankGod4Donks 12-08-08 01:27 PM

I changed my mind. This site is totally rigged. I had not played on it in a couple of years and had a great run getting my bankroll up to $2800 from a single satellite token. It didn't suprise me. I know I play well. I have beaten every online site I have ever played at, starting with just $50 at Paradise Poker and parlaying it into multiple cashouts at PokerRoom, Full Tilt and stars. I went back to FT after a run of bad luck at Stars putting me down to a minimal bankroll, I came back to FT and played the token I had left in the account and had a great run.

Since then, I have seen so much ridiculous stuff in losing almost half my bankroll, that I am convinced that all guys that have complained are correct. I am not talking about AA getting busted all in preflop, my style is more typically small ball. I mean a consistent run of people that are absolutely dominated with 4 outs or less beating me after a push at the turn. Dozens and dozens of these types of hands over the course of that last couple hundred of tourneys. Hands that are complete set ups, pairs that hit sets that are beaten by straights with cards that should never even call the first raise. Top two pair gets sucked out on by sets after the chips are in. OVER AND OVER!!! I obviously commited the cardinal sin on this site, I won consistently and they boom switched me. What a crock. I am cashing out the money I have left and I will hang onto it until Americans can play at a site that opens there software to independent audit. Pokerroom had the most legitamate deal of any site I played at, IMO, I miss it like hell.

I was wrong- FULL TILT IS ABSOLUTE BULLSHIT!!!

P.S- I noticed the same crap at stars once I reached a certain bankroll. I am happy to leave FT +$1435; so FU to the guy that called me dumb. I may be opinionated and cocky, but I ain't stupid!!!

eldave1 12-16-08 04:39 PM

Got agree Donks - just for kicks - I have been observing - the hand suck outs are just incredible (take that back - unbelievable). Time after time the poor SOB who gets in with the best hand - no matter how good - goes down and it always seems to a few select folks at a table. Just watched a hand - guy with AA shoves 5 times BB. One caller - flop is A 10 7 - the caller goes all in and the AA snaps call. His opponent shows 10 7 offsuit. Turn comes 10 and and I say to myself - here it comes - sure as shit - 10 on the river. Guy with the AA goes nuts and eventually leaves. Our hero with the 10-7 wins a bunch of other hands that he had no business winning and I eventually leave having seen htis pattern so many times before. The real shame is this - I love playing poker and fortunately for me I live in the LA area so I can get to a dozen B&M casinos in a snap - so I get to play live about 4 or 5 times a week - do pretty well too. I used to like online cause I thought it was a great vehicle to practice - nope! The patterns are so unrealistic (and they are)that it is horrible for even that purposes (in fact - really started screwing up my live play and I had to detox from it for a few weeks to get my live play back to snuff. I talk to dozens of live players each week who have also abandoned on-line - especially Full Tilt - the business will swallow it's golden egg soon.

Yeshiem 12-19-08 01:49 AM

I have been playing fulltilt for years and i am now going to give up and move on i have finally noticed that whatever you deposit it will let you win and eventually make you loos it all leaving you with an empty bank roll recently when i played my trip 10's with a kicker jack lost to trip 10's with a queen. Another example of it being rigged was when my trip kings lost to a trip ace which was caught on a river. This always happens to me after i have one a large amount of cash so i am warning you if you are going to play fulltilt GET OUT WHEN YOU WIN BECAUSE THEY WILL MAKE YOU LOOSE IT ALL..

Ant8472 01-02-09 01:00 AM

Since my incredibly run of bad luck on Full Tilt back in July and August I haven't had much to say. That is because I haven't played on Full Tilt very often. Instead I've been heading to my local casino where the cards definitely seem to be more random.

I've had more time to play poker recently over the holidays and have invested in the tournaments and SNG's on Full Tilt. Having played regularly at the casino and being used to the card distributions there I am astounded at how obviously flawed the cards are on Full Tilt.

Aone who suggests that it just appears that there are more bad beats and action flops on Full Tilt because of the rate of flops seen need to get their heads read.

I may have repeated this before but these are the most obvious and glaring anomolies on Full Tilt from my experience:

1) Aces get cracked heads up more than 50% of the time. Nowadays when I see AA on Full Tilt I know my tournament life is at risk. This doesn't make statistical sense to intuit AA as a losing hand but on Full Tilt it will get you knocked out more than any other hand (excpet maybe KK). If you see my stats on OPR, I do fairly well at single table SNGs but I have a host of games where I come 9 out of 9 or 8 out of 9. Most of those were due to getting AA early in the game and having them cracked.
2) Bad beats are horrendous. Playing on Full Tult is like dodging land mines and the bigger your hand the more likely an opponent has the cold nuts. Many times I'll flop a set and the card which gave me my set will give an opponent a straight. When I get straight I am often beaten by a flush and so forth.
3) This is perhaps the most consistent and glaring pattern I experience on Full Tilt. After I've had a few cashes and won a profit of any type I am immediately besieged by bad luck. I get runs of bad cards, constant bad beats and cannot win a showdown. Have you ever been so unlucky on Full Tilt that you lose just about *every* showdown in a given time interval no matter how in front you are? I find this happens a lot after I've won some money. The end result is that I can never consolidate profit with more wins because I will go on a terrible losing streak and end up losing back all my profits. This cycle has been perennial in my experience in Full Tilt.

I am seriously appalled by this site and disappointed because it has many qualities, but it does not deal fair cards.

k2offsuitwins 01-07-09 02:37 PM

Why I am geeing same hands ( even same suits sometimes), when i play on 2 diff. tables? is it hands i suppose to get or what? I do not trust this site anymore.

jaywepp 01-08-09 02:16 AM

Okay... been awhile since i played on full tilt and since i've posted....

So i put fifty in... run it up to 150 playin UBER tight andd cash out 100... lose the 50 remaining...

No biggiee.. but i'm bored one night and put another fifty in... lose that... might be my fault... put another sixty in and get that over 100.

Now here is where it gets interesting.... I come home and play some games tonight... I lost three games with a river card... I just finished out my money with a hand that i don't even know i truly lost!!!

I had pocket fours... guy had ace king of hearts against me... I hit four on the flop and there isn't a flush draw... well the river comes and i still don't think a flush was out there.... But before i can blink i'm out of the game and can't see what happened!!!

I don't want to sound like a bad loser, but i've been playing as tight as a human can play and i keep catching literally runner runner or miracle river cards. For anyone to think there isn't someting up with this site, you're being willfully ignorant. And again, i'm not even sure i lost my last hand

jaywepp 01-17-09 11:02 AM

So sat down.. put sixty in ... one a 30 dollar tourney and made the mistake of cashing out...

I played very tight waiting for cards... well for two straight games.. the cards never came... I finally get eliminated when my pocket fives are up against ace seven.... and he never even hit the ace or the seven.... I ended up making trips on the river! Bad news is that it made a 4 card straight for the guy=()

If anyone here learns one lesson... DO NOT CASH OUT unless you are done playing or sure you want that money. You simply are not allowed to win after cashing out. I guess the logic is that you have some money coming to you, maybe you'll cancel the payment and use your winnings.

billytk01 01-18-09 08:57 PM

i have been a very successful player on fulltilt but that has all changed since I won the Sunday 750k, and cashed very high in a few other high payout tourneys...... Ever since I cashed out my winnings on full tilt I have had nothing but bad beats, bad cards and unbelievable suck outs.... People like to say that online poker has alot of variance, I say its the site punishing you for cashing out(ie... cashout curse).... hmm. also if your the big stack at a table just call any small stacks "all in" with any hand, you will usually win no matter how far behind you are pre or post flop... Can someone explain to me how all the tourneys start and end at roughly the same time week in and week out... that is impossible... I have played in a few live tourneys where the event was scheduled for 3 days but ended in two day, as well I was in a tourney that was scheduled for one day and ended spilling deep in to the next day making it last 2 days.. Full tilts 750k always starts at 6pm est - and ends between 2:30/3am est.... with no doubt it always starts and ends between these times, that is impossible in itself aswell......

the final straw for me was tonight (Sunday 1/18) I played the 1 million guarantee ($500 buy in on full tilt) and was quickly bad beat out of the tourney on awful garbage.... I had aa, hit set on rainbow flop, and lost to runner runner flush... Then I had pckt qq and lost to runner runner straight.. the final knock out was my all in Ak vs A 10, hit A on flop and amazing and expected 10 on river to be eliminated.... garbage, rigged, garbage.... I am now in the belief that these online sites (full tilt as well as pokerstars,etc...) purposely build in these bad beats and horrible suck outs to level the playing field between the fish and good players... If full tilt ran a truly fair game then all the bad players (fish) would be out of their bankrolls.. In order to keep traffic up on the sites they make it so that any one ( no matter how bad they play) can win.. heres my proof... have any of you ever watched the final 2 or 3 tables of full tilts sunday 750k or pokerstars 1 million guarantee? the players are horrible.. you mean to tell me that a player can outlast a field of 4,000/8,000 or more players only to donk off their chips with an any Ax (Ace/rag)? I mean seriously, these players have no business being this far in a tourney like this, but the online sites make it possible... I guarantee that none of these aforementioned players would make it past the first or second level in high payout live tourney..

so anyways I just emailed full tilt and instructed them to close my account and close my deposit options as well... I told them basically of what I thought of the site and what garbage it is.... I now play exclusively at pokerstars, although pokerstars also has some peculiar/head scratching shuffles as well but what am i gonna do, i need somewhere to play.....

suprbikegirl 01-19-09 05:36 PM

I couldnt agree with you more. I stopped playing Ultimate bet several years ago because I started keeping track of hands , what was happening in the big tourneys etc. I really was doing so well on that site, actually build up a little "reputation" for myself, lol. I really excelled in the big tourneys, so i would take my winngins to the money tables, and my bankroll of course. I would cash out about every week. I noticed that for a certain period after I cashed out, I couldnt win to save my life. I suffered the worst bad beats, and before I cashed out I could do not wrong! So I really started paying attention, and everything just seemed so unrealistic. The way the cards came out. In one round, there could be A's K's and J's ont he table . That rarely ever happens. SO after a while I sent UB a long email how I thought they were crooked, and how dissappointed i was, and completely losing my faith in internet poker. Now I've joined Full tilt after a few years I'm back in again, doing really great, but the pattern seems to be the same there.....you can't win too much, they will take it away folks....and LIke Jay I believe said, DONT cash out unless you know your not gonna play for a while lol. Thats what I did:)
PEace to all the awesome poker players out there!
Niki

msleo 01-20-09 11:54 AM

i started playing on full tilt in july of 08. five months and 6,000 dollars later i decided to close my account. 3 weeks after my acct. was closed i had an insta check withdraw come through for 150.00.can you believe that? i had to close and re-open a new acct. its a good thing i happened to check my acct. on line and caught it before my bank paid it.they tried to slip that charge through.that is a perfect example of just how corrupt full tilt is.not to mention the fixed hands and runner runner beats.another thing is i would deposit 50. sit down at a 1-2 nl table with a minimum of 20. 15 hands later(after my aces were cracked or something) i would try to get more chips and all of the sudden the minimum would be 40. i would only have 30 left so either deposit more or go to another table. i could go on and on and on. ALL ON LINE POKER IS RIGGED. IF MAN CAN PROGRAM IT, MAN CAN MANIPULATE IT. its that simple.when someone comes up with a site that uses live video with a live dealer then MAYBE i'll play again. all of the top pros who take sponsor money from full tilt should be ashamed of themselves. has the withdraw attempt that i spoke of earlier happened to anyone else?

by the way i live in souther chester county,about 45 minutes from philly and im always looking to meet new people and new home games.

mrkromer 01-21-09 08:54 AM

You sat down at a 1/2 nl table with $20? lol, that's funny.

mike

msleo 01-21-09 02:13 PM

there were times i sat down with 150.00.
the point is , this happened just to get me to deposit again.

eldave1 01-21-09 11:08 PM

If you play live - you can definetly see that the card patterns are way out of whack with what you experience at a live table. It is not even close. The last time I played Full TIlt there was a flop of A, Q and 10 of diamonds. Four "all ins" followed.

One AQ clubs (flopped top 2 pair)
One 10 10 (flopped a set)
One k 9 of diamonds (flopped nut flush and gut shot straight flush)
One AK (flopped top pair - gut straight draw)

Turn was a Q (Full house ahead for a fleeting moment) and river was a 10 for quads.

That has never happened to me in the thousands of live games I play. (ps - I folded pocket 88 pre-flop thank God).

I know that I am not psychic - but in on-line I can call the cards turn and river half the time - I make a game out of it. If I got pocket 10 10 versus 9 9 and I flop a ten - I know that they are going to four flush. You can just shout it out. If I have AK vs A7 and the flop comes A - I know the 7 is hitting the river.

I had to stop because it was really screwing up my live play - I thought that on-line would be a great place to practice - nooooooo. When I play live and I get in with the best hand, they hold up pretty much along the odds you expect them to. In on-line, I foking tremble if I get KK, AA, AK etc because I know it is the set-up hand. I even thought of playing a tourney (haven't yet) where I jsut fold pocket pairs no matter what they are and see if that would improve my outcomes - but who wants to do that.

I am tired of the folks who say there are just more hands (because the number of hands played to not change odds - AA is AA whether you play 10 hands an hour or a hundrend and it should be an underpair 80% - on on-line it does not (I hover right around 50%). I am tired of folks who say it's because people play more bad hands - in live poker, people who play hands lose pretty soon - not in on-line - and again - the fact that someone calls with 7 2 offsuit to your Kings does not change odds). I am tired of the no incentive arguement - of course there is (rake, quicker tourneys, etc. etc.)

I am mostly tired of folks who say prove it is rigged - if I post hand histories - that is not enough data. Only Full Tilt has the complete hand histories and they refuse to have an audit done of their RNG to see if it is truly generating hand results consistent with what one would expect. Shame on them. So - the simple truth is this - No one knows if the site is rigged and the only folks who are in position to prove it is not refuse to do so. So - until there is an independent audit done - I will stay on the rigged side of the fence.

msleo 01-22-09 05:32 AM

if the sites aren't cheating or if there ever becomes an honest site,you'll still have the possibility of outside hacking. i would guess that just about every site is involved in some form of cheating.i thought about playing in a style that would avoid those set-up hands but,thats crazy...that has to be bad for your live play and most likely you'll still lose.

jaywepp 01-23-09 09:25 AM

Well just so I can document it with evryone.... I started up on full tilt with another 60... two games and I have it up to 160.

Now, i'll play one more ten dollar game and cash out at least 100. I'll play some low level games then and see how the cards fall.

jaywepp 01-26-09 11:06 AM

Well got my pot up to a high of 250.. including a second place finish in a 45 person five dollar tourney (would have one if the guy didn't catch a river card).

So still just playing the string out a bit... If i get to 200 i'll cash out.. Just won another 5 dollar one, so seeing where it goes. Trying to pay for a Key West trip with this money=)

nitemare6 01-26-09 03:51 PM

Ok. So I haven't played in 6 months or more. Had a few minutes to kill, so sat in a .25/.50 NL game. First 2 hands I played (out of about 8 deals) I have JJ and then JKs.

First hand guy comes in wth K5 and they deal 2 5 2 5 9. Other hand guy is in with 89os and they deal xJ710x.

This site is totally criminal. Really don't want to debate it, just posted it here for the non-believers.

Remember I haven't played there in over 6 months and this if the first two hands I play after only 10 mintues, and they are, as usual, full rigged tilt scam hands. I have no idea how anyone who plays real poker can play on this criminal site! It's impossible to trust your hand, real odds or have anything near normal distribution of cards.

jaywepp 01-30-09 09:38 PM

Well started going on a losing streak where I just couldn't win... won't call this the rigged part, just kept running into people where if you were all in preflop with aces they had jacks and hit the jacks.. so whatever. I hit my cutoff point and cashed out leaving 30 in the bank.

Played a 20 dollar game and was co-chip leader with about 6 folks left in. I get pocket aces and raise minimum bet... the other chip leader re-raises, I do likewise and he goes all int... I have pocket aces against his pocket jacks... Really, who puts their co-leading stack on the line with jacks? Well wouldn't you know it, Jack hits the flop.

So once again, ominating hans losing to lesser ones when you cash out. It was funny the night before I had the same thing happen as well, but just chalked it up to bad lck at the time.

got 11 bucks left and we'll see what happens... Just good to know you can predict full-tilt.

jaywepp 01-30-09 09:59 PM

Soooo I played a 18 person ten dollar game as my last one... fairly early into the game i get pocket kings... I just call hoping some folks behind me go crazy... They do and I re raise to 500... One caller... Flop comes jack ten 3 two spades.... I raise again... get a call... flop comes a club something low i forget....

Anyway... long story short I had Pocket kings against big slick clubs... So again, I get beat with a very good hand w/o even having the over card play.... I know this isn't a horrible beat in terms of poker, but to have this stuff happen constantly after you cash out is a joke.

TRauck 02-01-09 02:45 AM

I also know they cheat and I think it has something to do with like a win loose system depending on how good you do. For instance, I know 3 people that have gotten first place the first time they played on ftp. 2 of them one over $1,000 in a tournament and I won 150 in a 1 dollar game. I didn't even know the hands at the time! Since then I've gotten much better and it's so different from live it's insane or even different from sites like carbon poker.

TRauck 02-01-09 03:00 AM

Worst beat ever! I was was playing in only a $2.25 tournament thank god and I get moved to another table. Everyone at the table had less than 6,000 chips except one person and I think I was in like 70th place out of 700 with 5,000 chips. This girl named Vickie had like 24K and the tournament had just started so I asked how she got all her chips and she said she just beat a bunch of people trying to leave. So I said If your going to leave give them to me and she gave me 5,000 at one point. Then when I had 14,000 it was just me and her and I told her to go all in after the flop. She had J,2, and I had 10,k. So we both go all in after the flop which was 2,10,10 and the next two cards are J,J. That pissed me off so bad especially if she just handed them over to someone else. It was only 2.25, but it happens all the time if I could set up a bunch of accounts and prove it was rigged by playing over 10,000 hands on a few accounts I would.

imnoprojustgood 02-01-09 03:19 AM

How do we get cartoon avatars on FTP?

TRauck 02-01-09 03:47 AM

Here is a question though? Where does everyone's money go! Do they just circulate it around until it is almost all given back to ftp through rakes?

billytk01 02-01-09 06:35 PM

Well, I gave full tilt another try this time under my wifes account.... lavina76 (I closed my own personal account on full tilt due to the consistant rigged beats after i withdrew all my won tourney money which was about 211k) but alas nothing has changed in regards to the rigged and ridiculous bad beats on full tilt probably due to the fact that my deposit account and credit card deposits are the same as my wifes as well as the mailing address.. but here is the hand that almost made me throw my computer agains the wall on full tilt due to another rigged ridiculous horrid beat...
Im playing my wifes account lavina 76 and this is only the 5th hand of the tourney $216 buyin $500k guarantee.....

Full Tilt Poker Game #10380866663: Super Sunday $500K (76461284), Table 154 - 10/20 - No Limit Hold'em - 18:06:14 ET - 2009/02/01
Seat 1: RELETON (2,990)
Seat 3: sae9317 (2,831)
Seat 4: HIKER_II (2,970), is sitting out
Seat 5: getano100 (2,970)
Seat 6: greenerbels1 (2,891)
Seat 7: LaVina76 (2,866)
Seat 8: hankthetank80 (3,000), is sitting out
Seat 9: JamesBon (3,482)
greenerbels1 posts the small blind of 10
LaVina76 posts the big blind of 20
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to LaVina76 [Jh Js]
hankthetank80 folds
JamesBon raises to 70
RELETON folds
sae9317 calls 70
HIKER_II folds
getano100 calls 70
greenerbels1 folds
LaVina76 raises to 320
JamesBon has 15 seconds left to act
JamesBon raises to 650
sae9317 folds
getano100 folds
LaVina76 calls 330
*** FLOP *** [7s 4s Jd]
LaVina76 checks
JamesBon checks
*** TURN *** [7s 4s Jd] [4c]
LaVina76 checks
JamesBon bets 1,450
LaVina76 raises to 2,216, and is all in
JamesBon calls 766
LaVina76 shows [Jh Js]
JamesBon shows [As Ad]
*** RIVER *** [7s 4s Jd 4c] [Ac]
LaVina76 shows a full house, Jacks full of Fours
JamesBon shows a full house, Aces full of Fours
JamesBon wins the pot (5,882) with a full house, Aces full of Fours
LaVina76 stands up
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 5,882 | Rake 0
Board: [7s 4s Jd 4c Ac]
Seat 1: RELETON didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: sae9317 folded before the Flop
Seat 4: HIKER_II didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: getano100 (button) folded before the Flop
Seat 6: greenerbels1 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 7: LaVina76 (big blind) showed [Jh Js] and lost with a full house, Jacks full of Fours
Seat 8: hankthetank80 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: JamesBon showed [As Ad] and won (5,882) with a full house, Aces full of Fours



what a joke of a site.... they dont even try to hide the rigging... Its amazing all the 2 outers that are consistantly hit on the river all the time on this f'd up site..... im completely done with this site now ... and I hope that when i play in the wsop this year I make it deep in one of the tourneys so that full tilt can come up to me and ask me to wear their garbage logo.. I ll just laugh and when i get a chance on air to slam them i will... badly..... what a joke of a site....

mrkromer 02-02-09 11:28 AM

So you've won over 200k and now you think the site is rigged? Hmm, interesting. The correct story is probably more like this: You put $300 in your account, stupidly used $215 to play in a tournament in which you were way over your head, and then ended up in a bad hand. Keep in mind you were dominated preflop, and the river only corrected what the flop fucked up. You would've never even posted here if you had won that much money on FT, junior.

mike

eldave1 02-02-09 11:58 AM

Joined a special ground hog day full rigged tourney today - they gave all players one free rebuy. Was not going to play but did out morbid curiosity. My theory was because they were giving the free rebuy - they would have tons of action flops and would rigged the deal to achieve that. I lasted about ten minutes. I lost 2 nut flushes to 2 full-houses in a three hand period (below). I am sure I played the hands wrong - but c'mom FT - if you're going to rig for action flops - at least try to fool us!






Full Tilt Poker Game #10391185033: $12,500 Guarantee (78498465), Table 39 - 10/20 - No Limit Hold'em - 10:05:32 ET - 2009/02/02
Seat 1: Servaaaaas (4,040)
Seat 2: JangoBaron (2,860)
Seat 3: 1Black_Sunshine (1,810)
Seat 4: BuildinStacks85 (2,970)
Seat 5: kobra55 (4,340)
Seat 6: Faust_fin (3,000), is sitting out
Seat 7: OCBslim24 (2,080)
Seat 8: ALFeRICH (3,000)
Seat 9: eldave1 (2,900)
kobra55 posts the small blind of 10
Faust_fin posts the big blind of 20
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to eldave1 [Ad Qd]
OCBslim24 folds
ALFeRICH folds
eldave1 raises to 70
Servaaaaas folds
JangoBaron calls 70
1Black_Sunshine calls 70
BuildinStacks85 calls 70
kobra55 folds
Faust_fin folds
*** FLOP *** [7c 7d 8d]
eldave1 bets 160
JangoBaron folds
1Black_Sunshine calls 160
BuildinStacks85 calls 160
*** TURN *** [7c 7d 8d] [3d]
eldave1 bets 790
1Black_Sunshine folds
BuildinStacks85 calls 790
*** RIVER *** [7c 7d 8d 3d] [7s]
eldave1 checks
BuildinStacks85 checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
eldave1 shows [Ad Qd] a flush, Ace high
BuildinStacks85 shows [8s 8c] a full house, Eights full of Sevens
BuildinStacks85 wins the pot (2,370) with a full house, Eights full of Sevens

Seat 9: eldave1 showed [Ad Qd] and lost with a flush, Ace high



Full Tilt Poker Game #10391194176: $12,500 Guarantee (78498465), Table 39 - 10/20 - No Limit Hold'em - 10:06:29 ET - 2009/02/02
Seat 1: Servaaaaas (4,040)
Seat 2: JangoBaron (2,790)
Seat 3: 1Black_Sunshine (1,580)
Seat 4: BuildinStacks85 (4,320)
Seat 5: kobra55 (4,330)
Seat 6: Faust_fin (2,980), is sitting out
Seat 7: OCBslim24 (2,080)
Seat 8: ALFeRICH (3,000)
Seat 9: eldave1 (1,880)
Faust_fin posts the small blind of 10
OCBslim24 posts the big blind of 20
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to eldave1 [5d 8c]
ALFeRICH folds
eldave1 folds
Servaaaaas folds
JangoBaron raises to 80
1Black_Sunshine folds
BuildinStacks85 folds
kobra55 folds
Faust_fin folds
OCBslim24 calls 60
*** FLOP *** [9s Qs 9c]
OCBslim24 checks
JangoBaron bets 170
OCBslim24 folds
Uncalled bet of 170 returned to JangoBaron
JangoBaron mucks
JangoBaron wins the pot (170)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 170 | Rake 0
Board: [9s Qs 9c]
Seat 1: Servaaaaas didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: JangoBaron collected (170), mucked
Seat 3: 1Black_Sunshine didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: BuildinStacks85 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: kobra55 (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: Faust_fin (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 7: OCBslim24 (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 8: ALFeRICH didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: eldave1 didn't bet (folded)



Full Tilt Poker Game #10391199570: $12,500 Guarantee (78498465), Table 39 - 10/20 - No Limit Hold'em - 10:07:02 ET - 2009/02/02
Seat 1: Servaaaaas (4,040)
Seat 2: JangoBaron (2,880)
Seat 3: 1Black_Sunshine (1,580)
Seat 4: BuildinStacks85 (4,320)
Seat 5: kobra55 (4,330)
Seat 6: Faust_fin (2,970), is sitting out
Seat 7: OCBslim24 (2,000)
Seat 8: ALFeRICH (3,000)
Seat 9: eldave1 (1,880)
OCBslim24 posts the small blind of 10
ALFeRICH posts the big blind of 20
eldave1: what a flop
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to eldave1 [Kc Jc]
eldave1 calls 20
Servaaaaas folds
eldave1: nh
JangoBaron raises to 100
1Black_Sunshine raises to 300
BuildinStacks85 folds
kobra55 folds
Faust_fin folds
OCBslim24 folds
ALFeRICH folds
eldave1 calls 280
JangoBaron raises to 2,880, and is all in
1Black_Sunshine calls 1,280, and is all in
eldave1 has 15 seconds left to act
eldave1 has requested TIME
eldave1 folds
JangoBaron shows [Kd As]
1Black_Sunshine shows [5s 5d]
Uncalled bet of 1,300 returned to JangoBaron
*** FLOP *** [7h Ad Qh]
*** TURN *** [7h Ad Qh] [2d]
*** RIVER *** [7h Ad Qh 2d] [5h]
JangoBaron shows a pair of Aces
1Black_Sunshine shows three of a kind, Fives
1Black_Sunshine wins the pot (3,490) with three of a kind, Fives
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3,490 | Rake 0
Board: [7h Ad Qh 2d 5h]
Seat 1: Servaaaaas didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: JangoBaron showed [Kd As] and lost with a pair of Aces
Seat 3: 1Black_Sunshine showed [5s 5d] and won (3,490) with three of a kind, Fives
Seat 4: BuildinStacks85 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: kobra55 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: Faust_fin (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: OCBslim24 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 8: ALFeRICH (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 9: eldave1 folded before the Flop

Full Tilt Poker Game #10391210653: $12,500 Guarantee (78498465), Table 39 - 10/20 - No Limit Hold'em - 10:08:08 ET - 2009/02/02
Seat 1: Servaaaaas (4,040)
Seat 2: JangoBaron (1,300)
Seat 3: 1Black_Sunshine (3,490)
Seat 4: BuildinStacks85 (4,320)
Seat 5: kobra55 (4,330)
Seat 6: Faust_fin (2,970), is sitting out
Seat 7: OCBslim24 (1,990)
Seat 8: ALFeRICH (2,980)
Seat 9: eldave1 (1,580)
ALFeRICH posts the small blind of 10
eldave1 posts the big blind of 20
The button is in seat #7
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to eldave1 [Qc As]
Servaaaaas has 15 seconds left to act
Servaaaaas raises to 70
JangoBaron folds
1Black_Sunshine calls 70
BuildinStacks85 has 15 seconds left to act
BuildinStacks85 raises to 200
kobra55 folds
Faust_fin folds
OCBslim24 folds
ALFeRICH folds
eldave1 calls 180
Servaaaaas calls 130
1Black_Sunshine calls 130
*** FLOP *** [Js 8c Ks]
eldave1 checks
Servaaaaas checks
1Black_Sunshine checks
BuildinStacks85 bets 260
eldave1 calls 260
Servaaaaas folds
1Black_Sunshine calls 260
*** TURN *** [Js 8c Ks] [8s]
eldave1 bets 1,120, and is all in
1Black_Sunshine folds
BuildinStacks85 calls 1,120
eldave1 shows [Qc As]
BuildinStacks85 shows [Kc Kd]
*** RIVER *** [Js 8c Ks 8s] [9s]
eldave1 shows a flush, Ace high
BuildinStacks85 shows a full house, Kings full of Eights
BuildinStacks85 wins the pot (3,830) with a full house, Kings full of Eights
eldave1 stands up
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3,830 | Rake 0
Board: [Js 8c Ks 8s 9s]
Seat 1: Servaaaaas folded on the Flop
Seat 2: JangoBaron didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: 1Black_Sunshine folded on the Turn
Seat 4: BuildinStacks85 showed [Kc Kd] and won (3,830) with a full house, Kings full of Eights
Seat 5: kobra55 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: Faust_fin didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: OCBslim24 (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: ALFeRICH (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 9: eldave1 (big blind) showed [Qc As] and lost with a flush, Ace high


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