that's what i've been saying that moneymaker had to get lucky or phil ivey would have dominated the final table at the 2003 wsop. Grey, Pak, Benvinisti, Lester all play too tight and would get pushed around by Phil. Singer, Vahedi, and Farha would all bluff off all their chips to Phil. Only Dan Harrington would pose a serious threat to Phil Ivey at that table.