Doyle certainly holds his own in the side games,and Chip Reese does even better.I'd say ive seen Ivey have more success at the side games than either of them two this year.Again like ive mentioned earlier im only saying what ive seen to be the case.Its hard to get much of a gage on how Doyle does he rarely plays long sessions at the bellagio these days.My main point was about Hellmuth though,you wont see him involved in any side action.