So, what you're saying is that since they make good money, there's no chance they're fixing the games to make more? Have you ever heard of Enron, PGE, etc? Multi-billion dollar companies that are (were) on the take everyday. And what did they lose in the end (they being the people who were fixing the numbers)? Nothing. No jail time to speak of, no restitution, nothing. That's still going on today in every industry in this country. And we're talking american's with american based companies. You think some offshore company, who doesn't answer to any justice system is going to give a crap about taking more money than they should? And who exactly is it that you think PP answers to if they are caught? Who are they (PP) regulated by? And who do you think is going to catch them? You'd need more than one player playing 3000 hours to be able to find a pattern. You'd need thousands of people tracking their games for hundreds of thousands of hands, getting together and analyzing the results, and still what would you have? There are always going to be hands that don't play out according to the stats. There are always going to be players who are on rushes, and those on losing streaks. I can't even comprehend the amount of data that would have to be collected to prove that someone is fixing a game, especially when you consider the number of games that are played on PP. You think PP doesn't play the other side of that information to their advantage?Even if an someone (ex-employee) came out and said PP was fixing the site and had proof, you think that would stop people from playing their site? Whistle blowers come out of the woodwork everyday, and what, people stopped smoking cause someone said the tobacco companies knew cigs were addictive and went out of their way to market them to children? People stopped buying health insurance even after employees came out and said that claims were routinely denied as a matter of course? You think PP, on the slim-to none chance that something definitive ever came out that they were on the take, couldn't have another board of trustees set up in an hour and be back online with another name, taking money the same day?Again, I don't know if they are fixed, but the possibility that they are, cannot be ignored. And you are ignorant if you think otherwise. Realizing it's a possibility does not make it a conspiracy theory any more than a few people noticing patterns in the way the site runs, but it doesn't mean those things are not happening either. Just because they have RNG programs doesn't mean they use it for every game. By the way, I do win at this site, and at Pokerstars and UB, and win in real casino games as well. I'm not one of the WPT cronies, and I win enough that I've had to claim it on my taxes for the last 6 years. I just recently started playing online poker, and with this site, I notice it more than any other site. I keep track of my hands, keep notes on players, etc. and there is a definite pattern at PP. I agree, there are lots of newbies and the games are really loose, which does translate into more river rats, more bad beats, etc. But then there are the constant things that cannot be ignored.