I just read the last post and had to laugh, move from table to table, yeah, that really works well, go from 1 table with 3-4 house plants, to another with 3-4 house plants, makes a lot of sense. I don't call the loses on PP bad beats anymore, because they are really more of a joke.A recent example, had pp 10's flop come 2 5 10, sitting pretty, just 2 players on a 2/4 tables, I bet, get called then raised, so I reraise, and get called by 2, one of the 2 doesn't hve much money left, and he raised me. I know I have them both totally beat, the board is rainbow, neither are on a blind. So, the turn is an 8, no help to them to beat my 3 10's, I bet, same thing called, reraised, I raise again, get called. Now, the drum roll, the MAGICAL river card, its a 9, and low and behold, what did player 2 have, a JQ off, now, was this bad play, indeed, first off, he probably should not have called the preflop raise, no less the raises on the flop, and turn, but sure enough he stays in to the river and catches a gut shot Str, what are the chances, slim, very slim, was this a bad player getting lucky ? You would think so, but I didn't see him play any hands the same way, except for that hand, he wasn't chasing hands before or after this. Next day, same thing, pocket 10's flop is almost the same 8 3 10, the turn a 2, and the river, drumroll Q, and to my surprise, player 2 had j9 off, and the other fellow has pp A's, More bad play ? you decide, or was this a good player, it was according to the defenders of the site. And, according to them, I am the bad player, I should have known to fold after flopping trip 10's each time. What was I thinking they would hold up, when the odds of losing were exremely high. The same table, I lost with kk, AA, qq, aks ak off, all within 5 minutes. I had a player, tell me my exact stats, right to the tee, so I know he is using some sort of a program, and PP never did anything about it, and no matter what he went in with, it hit the board big time. Its really easy to spot the shills/house players, they never seem to get rivered over and over, if they are holding the slick, you can count on them hitting the flop, and no one hitting anything to beat them. And, if you make a comment about something not being right, the 3-4 players, you think are shills, defend this site with their lives, try it sometime. The thing I find the strangest is, I've gambled all my life, and there are always a lot of people complaining at the tables, no matter what game it is, but you don't see very many poeple complaining on this site, unless, you go into one of the free torny's they bought in with their points, then you will here the horror stories. I don't care what you have in your hand, when they trigger you to lose, you will not win a hand, and its not bad beats, its not bad players getting lucky, its predetermined hands, they are making a ton of money on the rake, but let me tell you, the rake money is peanuts, compared to the money they are making, with house players and rigging the hands. Can this be proven, of course not, because nobody is looking over their shoulders, period, end of story.