It's frightening to read how many people say things such as "why wouldn't they do it if they can get away with it"... I can think of a million reasons why a big business would want to be legit (more $ in the longrun, as opposed to criminal charges in the short term).... sure there might be a few bad apples in any big business, but all it takes is one whistle blower. So then, where is that one person with proof of fraud who might be a real honest person? It seems that most people are simply dishonest, including the people posting on here... some of these posts sound like they are directly from fraudulent thieves, half of the people complaining are stating that they would cheat and that's why they assume others are cheating. (why wouldn't they cheat?) Cheaters and thieves always think everyone around them is like them. I also have to wonder, if I wanted to create a fraudulent poker site to make money, how would I do it... well for one, I wouldn't make it as obvious as the fraud that people claim is occurring... and what exactly are people saying? That PP pays shills to fire up the game? *happens in a casino* Or is it that PP has payed players who can see all the cards? *that wouldn't explain why a player would call an all-in with K-7 against K-K* Or is it that PP pays players who know what cards are going to come up on the board? *highly unlikely as a hacker could access the same info if it is available to someone* Or is it that PP creates action flops for a higher rake? *rarely necessary as the rakes are capped and usually are for most hands* ... No one seems to know exactly what is wrong, just that 'something' is wrong.... All of these allegations cannot be true simultaneously... therefore, something is rotten in the accusations themselves. So if I wanted to make a fraudulent poker site, I would quickly realize there is no reason to do so. Just create the software and let it run itself. Online gaming sites make about 25% profit vs. B&M casinos 8%. Real casinos have more of a reason to cheat than online casinos if you think like that. I also think that with all the 'pro' players out there with utmost respect for the game of poker, someone by now would have uncovered fraud if it existed and come clean to the public... If you don't think so, perhaps you are the dishonest one, because if you were behind anything fraudulent you would obviously not be the whistleblower... but there are still honest people out there. Until someone in the mainstream uncovers the supposed fraud, I will continue to play online poker, for I have never seen anything so suspect as to cry fire in a crowded theater... I accept the bad beats and wait for the nuts (and the nuts for me is not a hand that can still lose on the river when I have the goods after the turn) Go ahead and call me naive, but I win online so I have no reason to complain... I've simply adjusted my play to catch the myriad of fish online