Don't twist my words dickhead... hold em is about chasing and catching WHEN THE POT ODDS ARE CORRECT... I did not say that is the only thing the game is about, it obviously is not. As for the K-7 vs. K-K, the player that saw that (was it you?) never specified when this occurred. How high were the blinds? Who called and who pushed? How much $ was the tourney buy-in? Was it SNG or MTT? Was anyone pot committed? I saw Hoyt Corkins (you may have seen this WSOP) go all in on a final table with J-7 in small blind, DiAgostino had 10-10 in the big blind and called... Corkins caught trip sevens on flop and the fourth 7 on the turn... That's a bad beat, yet if it happened on PP people would never think it to be legit. He was caught stealing the blinds, happens all the time, and he profited from it. Therefore, K-K vs. K-7 means nothing without proper context. 12 out of 100 hands you will see the K-7 win anyhow... that's more than 1 out of 10 (for those still learning to add) which means it more than likely happens several times a day considering all the hands played on PP. Is it stupid to push or call with K-7?? Most of the time, yes. Are there stupid players on PP? Without a doubt. What does this prove? Absolutely nothing.