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Originally Posted by PokerGods
Yes, I do understand people being skeptical. I have seen these same senarios occur in brick & mortar casinos, WPT tournaments, and the World Series of Poker. If you think im lying check out how last years main event winner jerry yang could do no wrong @ the final table. This was REAL life, not a program, not a simulation, just real players that were playing with real cards & a real dealer. Those episodes of the WSOP still play on ESPN. Check em out, the same things the players here are posting about occur in real life situations and since we dont follow each pro to every cash game and tourney he/she plays we can only account for what we see on TV, but believe me everyone has their share of bad beats and bad luck. I feel you bad_dog, but impobabilities can be found in live casino play and online play and it would be impossible for one person or a group of people to say that they occur more in one realm than the other. They might occur more for that one person or that one group but that is hardly the MAJORITY.
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Bro, I know you can take bad beats in live games. I've taken plenty. Hell, just this past Saturday, at friends house, my AA was cracked by 34, when he flopped trips. Did I complain? I know that can happen. However, that was the ONLY time all night in which my 7:1 preflop hand lost, and there were, at least, a dozen times in which I had an over pair to 2 under cards.
Not only have our statistics shown that online poker, is FAR different from live poker, (which is reason enough to wonder if their, supposed, "RNG' is truly, random, so to speak) but the fact that you can't, nor will you ever be able to, see the person dealing the cards.
Dude, come on. Why would HUGE online sites like Absolute Poker, and Ultimate Bet, who have between 8,000-16,000 players at any given time, at each site, jeopardize their reputation by putting "superusers" at their tables?
You don't think these people make enough on the rake alone? In their eyes they don't. So why not put "Superusers" at a high stakes table and rake in a few, hundred thousand, more?
The problem is, these idiots made it so obvious (as is shown by the youtube video, I listed previously, showing how "potripper" ripped everyone off in a $1000 buy-in tournament, as he played over 90% of the hands, and won over 90% of them) and it made it easy for them to get caught. My point is, these guys made it obvious, what's to say, other online poker sites, do the same thing but don't make it so obvious. What's to say they don't place these players at $1-$2NL tables, and rake money in hundreds at a time (in which case it's less obvious, than hundred thousands at a time). What's to say they don't have people at tables, just to push the action and increase the rake?
There were so many reasons for people to be skeptical to begin with, but when two of the biggest online poker sites get caught defrauding their customers, it's almost, next to impossible, not to think, one way or another, you're getting taken.