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I guess I missed your point a little bit Buck. I didn't realize you were saying the micro guys on FTP might be able to lay down the middle pair after the turn. I thought you were just giving an example about how things would play out anywhere in a micro game. So, if your theory is right, it is possible that it negatively impacted whatodds win rate. I know exactly what you mean about moving down. I usually play NL200 but after a horrible run a few months ago I played NL50 for about 2 weeks. Thats how I know that a very basic style of waiting for good hands and getting max value out of them works well. You can't bluff them, so getting way more value than you should with hands like top pair is the only way to get your edge. Thats why I said I thought the player with middle pair in the previous example would have called down all the way whether or not he improved. I saw that so many times at NL50, I promise there were even times when a never improved AK called me down on three streets.
Sorry whatodds I don't play on FTP anymore and never kept any HH when I did so I can't really help with that TPTK thing. I see how it is very significant though. As we've both said being a profitable low stakes player basically relies on your ability to get value out of calling stations. Considering the fact that so many guys at that level call down 3 streets with less than TPTK it seems like you'd have definitely ran across it somewhere in a 50k sample. Maybe Buck had a point that some of the FT micro guys are not as big of calling stations as micro players elsewhere. However, I don't see how this could have never happened in 50K hands. Kind of strange I'll admit.
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