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Old 09-29-09, 02:54 PM
eldave1 eldave1 is offline
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
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haven't posted in a while - see the argument rages on - I am still on Billy's side of the issue. If you looked at the overall stats - they hold up (e.g., your KK will win 75% of the time - BUT - that includes all the times you had no caller for your KK - if you look at showdowns - ugh!!)

I ignore the overall stats and simply look at all in show downs - for me this is a fact - MOST OF THE TIME more then 50%) WHEN I GET MY MONEY IN AS THE FAVORITE - I DO NOT WIN. If I add in the 'WTF hands" it is even worse. For example, I have AK and raise 4 times the BB preflop. I get one caller and the flop comes A-K-7. I raise and get called. Turn comes 7 and the guy shoves - I call and he shows 7-4 off suit. Sure I was the dog at all in - but -no way the fella should have been in the hand - no way I could fold. That happens a lot. They are the type of players you hope for live and dread on-line.

There are a lot of other things you see on-line that are inexplicable versus the live game (e.g., how many times a flop hits three or more players. If I had a nickel for every flop that gave player 1 a straight, player 2 a set, player 3 top two pair and player 4 a flush draw I would be a very rich man. As you already know, the flush draw wins.

More and more live players I know are leaving on-line altogether based on their belief that it is rigged - folks who love poker leaving the sites - antecdotal I know, but I think it is telling.

Lastly - even if it is random (which I think not) - I hate the RNG at FT because - as they state themselves, card distribution is influenced by mouseclicks, how long a player takes to act, etc. That means you can never tell when you fold whether you would have hit the flop or not (i.e., because your fold action changes the card dist) - makes it less enjoyable for me

Anyway - my three cents