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  #31  
Old 12-29-04, 06:00 PM
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Davishi, the reason you saw all those winning hands and no high cards or pairs win is because its play money and everybody calls the whole way with anything..if no one ever folded 72 or 95 or whatever than every hand youd see more straights, flushes and boats..
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Old 12-30-04, 06:00 PM
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The ppl cryin about bad beats need to realize that its not some scheme of the site. With tens of thousands of players do you really think that they care if you or someother monkeyfish wins that 40 dollar pot? if that player loses and dont come back, someone else will fill their place. The reason for the bad beats is that tons of terrible poker players with no respect for the odds(and seemingly their own $!!) will call you to the 91st river with a stupid inside straight draw even in the face of an ace or worse. These same people wouldnt dare show their faces in a B&M cardroom. Try playing high stakes or a decent buy in tourney and these beats decrease drastically as most bad rec players will be out of their league. Ive been in some intensely tight games, and seen(and-i admit it)pushed on some really big cheese. Thats poker though. And no, I am not a winning player who is satisfied, I am down right now. I just think that they have enough buisiness with the moneymaker/raymer connection on espn every night, and wouldnt go through that much to bad beat you out of a tiny pot to keep 1 small limit player.
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Old 01-01-05, 06:00 PM
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Pokerstars is unrealistic. The percentage of hands won on the river is unbelievable. guys pulling inside straights and four card flushes. Sometimes I think the order of the cards are predetermined. I think aftermy bankroll is depleted I will look to another site. If you like to chase hands this is the site for you.
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Old 01-06-05, 06:00 PM
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There is no poker site better than pokerstars...pokerstars is the best. i've played on many sites including party poker, pacific poker, absolute poker...etc..and they do not even come close. pokerstars has the best tourn and sit & go play, they have the lowest stakes to the highest stakes, the site is amazing compared to the other crappy sites. i really don't understand why party poker would have more players...trust me, if u play on pokerstars you will not play on any other site again. The site is also very organized, making it easy to find the table you are looking for. this is the site for true poker players.
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Old 01-18-05, 06:00 PM
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playing there as i type this out. All i can say about the freerolls is they last a really long time 6hrs + . Then you get entered into the next game which is a different game than the one you won to get there for only $100. But its still a fun site
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Old 01-29-05, 06:00 PM
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I have played at other poker sites and feel pokerstars is the best, however im now having problems signing on to pokerstars. I deleted pokerstars from my computer and did a re-download, but now everytime i try to open the pokerstars icon a screen apears with the words "internet conectivity failure", what does this mean and how do i get back on pokerstars???? I've tried everything
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Old 02-07-05, 06:00 PM
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Software and ease of use is a 10...the rating is downgraded by the "random" card draw. It seems the site has a slot machine mentality when it comes to whether you win or not. I play mostly tourneys, and I always go on streaks of losing every time to winning every time, determined by which side of the 2-outers on the river you are on after all-in bets. Would not recommend to the good player, too much luck involved at this site, the worse you play, the more you get paid off.
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Old 02-24-05, 06:00 PM
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Just started playing yesterday, logged several hours on it so far. Well, one thing it has classy software. Was very easy to navigate around seemed to be a solid server. Play was consistent with what you would expect from average/good players. Not a lot of maniacs which was nice. You can play solid poker here and not get burned. Site has great looking graphics and you can manuever around the site with ease. Everything looks so crisp and professional. Beats the look and feel of Party/Empire by a long shot. Since this was my first day I cannot evaluate customer service, tournaments (although they sure have a lot of them), etc. A very pleasant experience and I will continue to go back to PokerStars often.
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Old 03-02-05, 06:00 PM
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Stealing Your Money Make Them Regulate
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Old 03-02-05, 06:00 PM
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DO NOT PLAY HERE. this is the worst site I know, their software is rigged to produce "action flops" all designed to get your money in and increase the rake. Oh...and just in case your wondering they can close your account at any time without warning and without paying you any moneys due...i know. they have one office in the UK and other is in greece...so legal action is all but impossible to regain your stolen funds. they dont even get a one rating but they dont have a 0 on here!!DO NOT PLAY ON POKERSTARS...DO NOT PLAY ON POKERSTARS THEY ARE CROOKS AND THIEVES...email me if you need the details
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Old 03-08-05, 06:00 PM
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JokerStars, not PokerStars. Many of my friends have signed up for accounts, but all have been smarter than me and have since removed their accounts. I am still on, fighting, in hopes that I will win big enough so that I can cash out happy. This site rips you off. There is no way in hell that you can lose to multiple full houses, straights, AND flushes...all in a single session. STAY AWAY from this site. Pacific Poker is a much better site if you are looking to make any real money. The players there are generally loose.
  #42  
Old 03-09-05, 06:00 PM
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I agree with the people above when they say that the software is rigged to give people better flops. I'd have a better chance of winning the super7 then hitting 4 of a kind twice in one tourney. The rigging of this software is done so that poker stars can get more money going into the pot so the rake is higher thus giving them more money. Unfortunately, this isn't entirely accurate/realistic. A real downer I'll certainly never play for real money on poker stars, not with this software.
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Old 03-18-05, 06:00 PM
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I am still skeptical about online poker in general and this includes pokerstars. I have won tourneys here which paid a few thousand dollars, but I have also seem some really crazy beats. Today I flopped nut flush just to lose big pot to 4 of kind on river, two hands later I flopped nut strait just to lose to full house on river and it was the same guy who won the pot both times. And those were just two hands. But they just happened to be the two biggest hands I played all day. Same thing happened day before had two straits both for 50+ dollar pots both cracked by river flush, both flushes caught by same player, but consisted of 4 flush cards on the board by time river came. also witnessed 4 of kind aces being beaten by royal flush. I like their software, and have been a loyal supporter so far, but this bad beats and lucky draws are starting to wear on me and make me wonder. When I first started playing alot I won alot. This is when I won tourneys and ring games. Now I cant seem to win much at all. Ohh I get a couple hundred dollars up then the bottom falls out. Just makes me wonder a bit. Not sure how much I am going to continue to play there or at any other online site for that matter. I have slacked off quite a bit lately and I am thinking of just keeping it live from now on.
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Old 03-25-05, 06:00 PM
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i want to get into the tpokerstars game but i cant not because it says there is already a name in this game but i have never olayed this before and i want to my name is leai
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Old 04-04-05, 06:00 PM
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I have only played at Party Poker so far. But was considering Poker Stars. The card dealing on all sites seems odd at times (Thats poker) but having measured it on Party Poker (Over 1,500 hands)it is about spot on with probability. None of the 4 aces losing to a royal flush nonsense. Only gripe about Party poker was paying up on affiliate accounts. Still owe me over $1,000 and making loads of excuses as to why not to release the money. (Your players have not given us enough money yet!) Any more stories on PP failing to pay up?
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Old 04-04-05, 06:00 PM
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PokerStars, PartyPoker WHATEVER! They are painstakingly similar in just about all areas. I have played at both for a lengthy period now. To pick one as a favorite over the other would be bias. I play brick and mortar at a nearby casino in Niagara Falls, NY. It's only 25 minutes from my home. I have been playing Poker for years now. For all you numbers people, I am sure you'll agree with me on most of the following issues.1. Number of hands vs. number of badbeats. Of course you are going to see some strange calls, badbeats, all-ins and you're also going to win and lose in roller coaster fashion while playing Poker online, because online play is literally 10 times faster than brick and mortar. With that in mind and considering you see 10 times as many hands per hour of play, you are going to see many more "against all odds" plays. You will also witness more "badbeats" and more ignorant play. If you calculate TOTAL number of hands for both brick and online play you would arrive at the same outcome..2. Badbeats happen online, occurs at my Casino just the same! I was recently playing in a No Limit game, brick and mortar, I had pocket Aces, the game was low key, and I would rate it fairly loose. I am in late position, 3 players before me just call, (no signs of slow play) I have only the blinds to consider, I decide to make them pay to see the flop, I push to $300 to avoid getting caught slow playing myself. Small blind drops as do the other 3 shooters, Big Blind calls! OK, he is proud of his pocket pair, that's precisely what I want. Assuming all flush and straight draws properly removed themselves from the hand we see the flop. Comes Ace, Five, Seven (rainbow). I shove my remaining stack in, about $360, three rockets, wow I am counting the pot already. BB calls me! OK, I have a rich stubborn wanna be poker player that is playing pride not Poker! Fourth was a 2 and river was an 8. This so-called Poker player had a 4 6 off!! No misprint! A 4 6o! I had to stop counting "my" pot and relinquish it to BB on what has to be the worst "badbeat" in my Poker career! This guy yanked a straight out of the Poker Heavens! Wouldn't have been as painful if he would have made a full house with a medium pair but, 4 6o! Get outta town! Sure, he is ignorant in Poker, sure he will drop his bankroll, (probably the same day) but I had to take the hit at the moment. I had to go home and complain to the gambling god's, "why me"? My point, Badbeats are just that, Bad! I have never found any good in a badbeat yet. They can and will happen online and in brick and mortar just the same. 3. Rigging online; Not happening. Why would these (PS & PP) highly profitable online poker sites have to rig the play? Poker has taken this country and the entire free world for that matter by storm! They are certainly not hurting for players. They win no matter what you do! So why risk being evaluated by professional companies and being tagged as "rigged"? What does occur and "player beware" is the most basic cheating, player collusion and phone or Instant Messaging cheating. That happens at brick and mortar as well. Physical signals at brick and mortar are commonplace. I have complained to Pokerstars about player collusion in single table sits. They informed me of their state of the art software that detects the frequency of players playing together, above average. The query they could not respond to was, "phone collusion" and the ongoing Instant Messaging problem. That I'm afraid is up to the individual player to detect and duly note in the "player notes". There are high speed areas to cramp the cheats style, but I doubt that has any real effect on the outcome.Pokerstars or Partypoker. . . .pick your site. Stay focused, absorb the good with the bad, have confidence in your ability and shake off those badbeats, it's all part of the game! One word of advice, playing in large money rooms most definitely increases the probability of collusion, etc. Stay in smaller priced rooms and enjoy yourself. Don't quit your day jobs either! I can be yelled at, [email]PaulsGTO@adelphia.net[/email]
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Old 04-05-05, 06:00 PM
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paul you are sooooooooooooooo right if poker players learned the game better they would be complaining lesswhat is your name in the poker site i don't want to play against u lol
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Old 04-09-05, 06:00 PM
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i dont think its coincidence that poker stars players do well in major tourneys. they trust the software (as i do) which is so much better than partypoker. but the competition is very stiff. but i think its merely a testament to pokerstars quality that good players want to play here because they know theyre skill will be the deciding factor not some horrible suckout
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Old 04-12-05, 06:00 PM
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fantastic comment paul. Everyone mistrusting the Pokerstars software is frustratet because he lost money to better players or just cant accept that bad luck is part of the game
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Old 04-12-05, 06:00 PM
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Hi Guys Paul Again,As a gambler we all no doubt recognize and accept the "laws of average" factor.It cannot and will not be denied. I play Blackjack at a local casino. I usually play at the $25 minimumtable for hours at a time. I have seen dealers go on fantastic streaks of luck as well as players. Suddenly a reversal of fortunes surfaces and it goes vice versa. The same trends occur when I play in the casino's poker room, I can go an hour, sometimes more without getting involved in a hand, no viable pockets to even play loose with. While online I experience the same trends. I go bad and then suddenly I get a rush of winning pockets. As for the droughts occurring after money withdrawals from online poker rooms, it's just a coincidence. I would love to blame my droughts on rigged software. The other night there were over 80,000 players online at one time. Now just how in the world do you figure they singled you out? Out of the entire population of "players currently online" do you suppose any software can do that?!!!They can deliver weak pockets which I refer to as a "lags" because they delay your game as any good poker player will bide his time and wait, wait, wait and wait some more if need be for a viable hand.The community board may be a tad juiced as well, but then again it is going to lose for you and win for you in turn, as the "laws of average" kicks in again! Same thing at a Blackjack table when a player does the opposite move with his/her hand as he should and then the dealer instead of making a solid hand, BUSTS! Nobody wants to kick the lame player unless the dealer makes a 21. Same thing in online poker rooms. You seem to remember the "bad beats" more predominantly than the hands you committed the bad beat on yourself. Human nature, we are basically negative creatures. Some more than others, thus the constant complaining and finger pointing. A decent comparison for the online community boards would be looking back to when you were learning poker as a kid, remember when deuces were wild? That creates excitement and more possibilities for everyone's hand involved. Again, it works for you and against you within the guidelines of the "laws of average". It's how you play the winning hands that differs the winners from losers.Maximize your wins and minimize your losses. It's just that simple. Rigging? Yes. But not individual conspiracies! Well guys/gals that's the way I see it.
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Old 04-19-05, 06:00 PM
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I have played at Party, UB and Stars. Stars and Party have equal numbers of good and bad players, but I notice the terrible plays being rewarded far more often on Stars. I played there for 7 months and will not be returning, though I did win two MTT's during my stay, I have to say that both times I was rewarded for bad decisions. I won't get into the rigging debate but I will say that I, personally, believe that something about this site is not on the level. I would highly recommend Party (just as many fish, but they are rewarded far less often in my experience) or Ultimate Bet (MTT's are even better than the overrated ones on Stars) but would not recommend PokerStars in any circumstance.
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Old 05-05-05, 06:00 PM
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The randomness of the cards seems ok at Poker Stars, not like UltimateBet. Poker Stars is pretty stingy on their freerolls. They let thousands of players into them and only the top 9 finishers get an entryinto the next level. That's not good compared to other sites. One thing I really like about Poker Stars is that in Hold'em when playersare all in before the flop and no more betting is possible, the softwaredeals the flop AND THEN PAUSES. It's a short pause but it buildsexcitement because you can see what cards everyone needs. Some othersites that just flash the cards by in this situation can take A BIG HINT! I've done some programming and I'm shocked by the sites thatflash the cards onto the board, clear the board, and then pause witha blank table before the next hand. That's bad programming. It'smuch more realistic to do it like Poker Stars does and it makes the gamemore interesting. Come on Poker Stars, put some money in your freerollsyou cheapskates. Players will just use the money on your real moneytables anyway.
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Old 05-26-05, 06:00 PM
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I not one to just jump out and give a perfect 10 to anyone except bo derrick. Pokerstars is the best online card room period. Regardless of what the yahoos above say negative about pokerstars being crooks. It is not true. Even though it is based in san jose, costa rica, the site is american owned and run. There is too much at stake. Too much money to be made to risk illegal alterations with the shuffeling algorythem software. It is very apparent to me that the above players speaking of crooked dealing have not played cards online very long. At 100 hands per hour online, compared to at best, 30 hands per hour in a brick and mortor room, it can seem to be very extreem highs and lows. Especially at fixed limit high-speed games. This magnifys the bad beats where i can relate to the thinking of the players saying these things. But believe me the other end of this spectrum is also magnifyed. A rush of good cards against your playing foes is a feeling like no other felt in poker. In fact it is impossible to experience this type of rush in a brick and mortor card room. Theres just to much time in between hands for it to be felt like an online card rush. Take it from me, an online professional cardplayer that has played real-money online poker over 100 hours per month since 1997, the site is 100% on the up and up, no crooks, no shady dealing; only the best tourneys and overall best cash game cardplayers anywere on the net today. I do have one thing that might help the sceptic newcomer to the recent online poker explosion. Read the book, "killer poker online”, crushing the internet game". By; john vorhaus. Also purchase and download a good realtime player tracking & analyalsis software program which runs along side your table window, constantly updating you with new information about your opponents play. The more you play against them the more precise and useful it becomes. It is always learning, but most important, unlike us it does not forget. Things like there loose/tight, aggressive/passive aspecks, there betting patterns and tendentcies, which games they normally play in and how much money they have won or lost, against you and overall. This is very very important, because it is impossible for your human brain to remember as well as a 250 gigabite computer hardrive. If you are serious about playing holdem online you will notice the information provided by these types of programs to be so good you will wonder how you ever won a single dime playing online before. It’s a fact that one or more of your current table opponents are using this valueable knowledge against you. You must level the playing field in order to win in the long run. We all know that poker is all about the long run. Yes, anyone can win for a session or two. But winning in the end is not luck! The informed skilled player with his fair share of luck will always come out on top. I don't want to provide the names of these software programs here as i am not an affiliate with any of them. But as of may 2005 there are three that i can recommend to you, depending on which site(s) you play. Just shoot me an email. I am not going to make a penny from them; i am just a promoeter for the good of the online game. I am not saying that there are not dishonest sites out there, because there are. But take it from this 40 year old texan, who has made well over 1 million dollars playing online poker over the last 5 years. Pokerstars is as honest as they come and in my opinion has no equal for there tourneys. Lots of different types, sizes and structures, and best of all, there high payout freerolls. Note: if you’re just starting out or new to the online game. I do not recommend that you play at pokerstars mid to higher limit games or you will regret it! The players are just that good. There are many sites with much softer, easyer to beat games out there. Remember this one little fact, even if you forget everything else that i have stated above. Knowledge of opponents play, table selection, and good mind & money management. You will get out of online poker only what hardwork you put into it. Good luck! Email: [email]jnies15@aol.com[/email]
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Old 06-01-05, 06:00 PM
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Amazing bad beats only way to keep people from chasing a gut str8 draw and getting is 2 go all in on the flop. dont play limit games you will get chasers and probably lose. overall bad card engine.
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Old 06-01-05, 06:00 PM
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It's funny how all people think about poker sites. I have just read UB review and then read PS. It's funny every site judging by reviews is most rigged in UB review everyone adviced to go to party or PS because UB is "MOST" rigged. here there are a lot of people telling to go to UB or Party because PS is most rigged. im sure that when ill read Party's review everyone there will be saying to go to UB or PS because Party is "Most" rigged its funny i play at PS a lot and now im loosing 4 months in a row i lost my bankroll...but still game is not rigged...i made a lot of mistakes last couple of months and suffered couple of bad beats...that happens on any site or at any casino...thats poker...you have to deal with it or not play at all...longstreak is all that counts...im up from playing poker i have my profit...i have a terrible loosing streak now but you have to deal with it...
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Old 06-01-05, 06:00 PM
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just read Party's review and what do you think? yes it is the MOST rigged site and you should go and play on PS or UB or other sites which are ok but Party is all about cheating funny...
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Old 06-12-05, 06:00 PM
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Guys, please stop this nonsense about rigged sites. The only (proven) way sites stole player's money is much simpler than making biased shuffle - PokerSpot was the most prominent example. I'm 100% sure that _none_ of the big rooms is intentionally rigged; as for Stars' - I had doubts about them at some point (after a bad beat streak obviously) and asked them to send me the whole history of my play there; when I've got it, I made all kinds of statistical analysis with it (and I have a degree in maths) - and came up with nothing beyond statistical expectations. So until somebody will provide a mathematical proof (rather than emotional "he got one-outer, it should NEVER happen, at least not to me") - I won't even consider such a possibility. Face it, guys - bad beats is an integral part of poker. And those who cannot deal with it, just should not play poker, ever - there are other ways to have fun in life.
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Old 07-01-05, 06:00 PM
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Well guys i have played at UB mostly and i can tell you it's rigged!I'm a good player and i know my game is good but on UB i go on streaks but when my streak gets to good then i'll get nothing in cards or when i do get something i'll miss the flop everytime or when i do hit someone will hit harder etc .. Don't even mention the tournies, grr .. one player is favoured over the table and i see it always.. one player always hits no matter what while everyone else struggles not to mention building a stack here consistantly in near impossible! Then i can mention heads up play, lol what a joke! Some days i just hit, hit, hit everything that i feal sorry for my opponent then other days it gets reversed where i can't even hit the board hardly like maybe 20% with all 5 cards out while my opponent hits 90% of the time, wtf!?? and not only that he keeps hitting trips, flushes, straights etc constantly and this is heads up!??!! while i'm struggling to even get a pair!!! Just before i'm playing heads up and some guy got and i bs you not 7 pocket pairs in 10 hands while i get 2-7o etc constantly.Now how does this relate to poker stars you say. Well everything i said for UB is the opposite at stars. Sure you'll take a beat or 2 but the card distribution is normal! so is the flop! The site is well designed and overall i have nothing but praise for stars. Good players are rewarded here and suckers are not. No wonder a few people here say stars is crap etc .. I think in reality they suck because me personally, my good play is overall rewarded here and i think it's fairly easy to make money here.On UB though, forget it. The cards come out biased to the point where you will win then lose then win then lose that you can never get ahead and thats fine because i learnt my lesson! and my lesson at other sites as well! Poker stars is the only site if your a good player PERIOD!
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Old 07-07-05, 06:00 PM
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pokerstars is the shiznit!!!!!!!
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Old 07-09-05, 06:00 PM
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I may bore you guys with my diatribe, but here goes. I've played internet poker for about 3 years now, and I think in terms of hi/lo limit games, variety of tourneys, Pokerstars is the best I've come across. And, as far as freerolls go, what do you expect? Something for nothing? The reason you have to beat 3000 to 4000 people in those is that it is geared towards cheapskates, with the hope they may invest REAL money in the future. As far as the sites I've frequented, Ultimate Bet would rank as the worst due to 3 people regularly FLOPPING flushes, or the CONSTANT AA vs. KK matchup. But in terms of all the poker sites I've played at, they ALL have some things in common: They want the BAD players to keep coming back, since that is their cash cow. As for decent players, which I consider myself, they are a lot harder to permanently drive off, since they have experienced some sort of success in the past. And at all these sites, my success usually comes IMMEDIATELY after I open an account, just to give me a taste of winning quick cash. And even though I believe bad beats happen almost as much in LIVE play, I DON'T believe that any computer program is completely random. The goal of any business is to make as much money as possible, even if it means bending the rules a bit. And EVERY computer program is made by man, and man is inherently greedy. That's why I ask regular LIVE Blackjack players if they would play the same money on internet BJ, and they almost always say NO! Internet poker follows the same premise: Even though you are competing against other players, the house is ALWAYS looking for the best way to maximize its profits. And if this means letting new players win early, letting bad players regularly outdraw you, then I have come to accept this. On a conluding note, 2 of the biggest problems I have with Pokerstars is that first, it is hard to win BIG pots back-to-back (seems like the hand after I win a big pot, I get "set up" with the 2nd best hand) And secondly, if the UNDERDOG makes a "bad" play with a big raise, he gets rewarded more than he should with a big pot. Hope this write-up helps. BTW, if you chat with someone or read an article from someone that has NOT played internet poker ("pro" poker writer John Vorhaus comes to mind), and he offers his analysis (good or bad) on internet poker, pay NO attention. They are commenting on something they have NEVER experienced. Good luck at the tables, so long as it's not at my table.
 

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