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  #61  
Old 07-09-05, 06:00 PM
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I may bore you guys with my diatribe, but here goes. I've played internet poker for about 3 years now, and I think in terms of hi/lo limit games, variety of tourneys, Pokerstars is the best I've come across. And, as far as freerolls go, what do you expect? Something for nothing? The reason you have to beat 3000 to 4000 people in those is that it is geared towards cheapskates, with the hope they may invest REAL money in the future. As far as the sites I've frequented, Ultimate Bet would rank as the worst due to 3 people regularly FLOPPING flushes, or the CONSTANT AA vs. KK matchup. But in terms of all the poker sites I've played at, they ALL have some things in common: They want the BAD players to keep coming back, since that is their cash cow. As for decent players, which I consider myself, they are a lot harder to permanently drive off, since they have experienced some sort of success in the past. And at all these sites, my success usually comes IMMEDIATELY after I open an account, just to give me a taste of winning quick cash. And even though I believe bad beats happen almost as much in LIVE play, I DON'T believe that any computer program is completely random. The goal of any business is to make as much money as possible, even if it means bending the rules a bit. And EVERY computer program is made by man, and man is inherently greedy. That's why I ask regular LIVE Blackjack players if they would play the same money on internet BJ, and they almost always say NO! Internet poker follows the same premise: Even though you are competing against other players, the house is ALWAYS looking for the best way to maximize its profits. And if this means letting new players win early, letting bad players regularly outdraw you, then I have come to accept this. On a conluding note, 2 of the biggest problems I have with Pokerstars is that first, it is hard to win BIG pots back-to-back (seems like the hand after I win a big pot, I get "set up" with the 2nd best hand) And secondly, if the UNDERDOG makes a "bad" play with a big raise, he gets rewarded more than he should with a big pot. Hope this write-up helps. BTW, if you chat with someone or read an article from someone that has NOT played internet poker ("pro" poker writer John Vorhaus comes to mind), and he offers his analysis (good or bad) on internet poker, pay NO attention. They are commenting on something they have NEVER experienced. Good luck at the tables, so long as it's not at my table.
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Old 07-10-05, 06:00 PM
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I couldn't agree with Riverwarrior's post about UB more. He is definitely right about UB being bogus. Pokerstars is a great site. Good play is rewarded. Unlike on UB where, like he said, somedays' heads up I struggle just to make a pair, and other days i can't not pair up. It is ridiculous. Stick to Pokerstars...still the best site out there. Anyone who complains about Pokerstars truly does not know how to play because this is just about the one and only site where i do not feel that i am being cheated!!
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Old 07-10-05, 06:00 PM
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Well I've been playing poker online and off for a very long time now and my review on pokerstars goes as follows. As far as choice, games and graphics POKERSTARS is excellent! However if you like throwing your money into a flaming barrel to keep the pretty light going then by all means go with pokerstars. In all the time I've been playing poker I've never ever ever seen such bad beats. 4 of a kind comes up on the SAME table, 3 count it 3 times in (estimated) 20-30 min. I'm no odds expert but this is high, I know it, my buddies know it and so does anybody who has played poker long enough to recongnize this. Houston or Big Slick gets baited by fish hooks...once in a while yeah okay, sure. Not (again estimated) 5/6 out of 8/9 times. American Airlines (AA) is almost guaranteed to lose which is in no way correct. IE: I get (9h Ah)a flush ace high from the flop = kh 10h jh...BB and SB have already called my excrutiating blind raise and after the flop I raise again...SB folds BB re-raises he has 8s8d...i think he has a flush too but lower.Then tells me before the turn quote "the tides are about to turn" ???????????????????? dealer, turn brings 8c I go All in... he calls. I see his trips unworried by his assanine comments since I had the flush and he had trips. The river brings js.????????????? Now this guy has a big bank roll so he can't all out just suck right? So what made this guy call my huge blind raise and post flop raise with 88 and with a flush draw on the board??? A lot of foolish people with 1 thought going at a time might say your a bad poker player or you just seen too many hands to tell anymore. People will say now why would a 353 million dollar company with a 10 billion dollar IPO cheat it's players? Simple, why does a 400 million dollar casino rig their machines. ----> To STAY IN THE RED. They do not want to be slightly up or even. <------------- Counting the rakes from all the games and sign up fees for tourneys exceeds only by a minimal of what they spend weekly or monthly on site fees. The remainders goto checks/cashouts/payouts. Where's their money? I'll tell you! The more tourneys that finish quickly the more money they make so they have to give out better flops and cards. Cash tables, because you have an "unbeatable" hand the site knows you'll bet high. If everybody folds the rake is not as sweet. The more people with hands to contend with the hand you hold means a bigger rake of course. A large portion of pokerstars high stakes/low stakes game players are aphiliated with pokerstars in one way or another. Also there is no complaints against winholdem users as of date???? Why does every other site scan for this and not PS??? Do not get mad at this entry, do not discredit what I say simply because you have not shared my experience(s), and please do not throw a "your playing with better players on pokerstars". If anything the no limit tables should be avoided at all costs. I can also say with assurance pokerstars has the biggest ensamble of fish I've ever seen. Not just fishing for 1 pair but their second all the way to the river with zero or 1 outs betting extremely high for the cards they hold. No staight draw, No flush draw...pure fishing. You will find this VERY common on all tables from .01/.02 centers to the .50/1$ tables. Often you will hear players talk like they know what you have. Some even go as far as telling you an intricate hand and what you hold just shy of telling you the suit or suits to avoid reporting them or getting really suspicious. Like I said I've been playing pretty dam* long here there and everywhere. NOWHERE NOWHERE NOWHERE have I seen such extraordinary beats, calls with cards that won't win but do...like 8-3OS. Truely I find this site a joke...party poker coming in second and Empire poker not even falling in the same categories, since I feel my time there was more REASONABLE on the beats I took and gave. I could go on forever with my findings however I'll just hear a bunch of, your crazies, you suck at poker that's why, or whatever clever minds can brew up in latter times. All I'm trying to do is stimulate the minds of those who will not come to terms with online poker having it's "secrets". IT DOES. It's kind of the same thing as being ignorant to 100 billion galaxies estimated in the universe. We live in ONE galaxy 9 planets, and someone is going to convince me that we are the only living beings in our ENTIRE universe. People there is 99 billion other galaxies besides ours. Never thought of it like that did you? Then think a little more with and through your experience and education of the game when playing it to determine what's just not sitting right and when you get bad beat "fairly". Really start to observe. Don't just look for bad beats because you lost. I'm not out to destroy pokerstars nor will i with a little web entry. However the more people that look for this, the better chance of finding solid exploit(s) to stand up in court. Believe it or not the crime of casino theft wheter internal or external is enforced by the RICO statutations set forth by the federal government. However Online gambling this does not hold true FOR NOW.
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Old 07-12-05, 06:00 PM
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Can anyone direct me to a site that doesn't cheat? I'd be happy to play when the house doesn't stack it. Hell I'm a programmer..I'll write my own if these pricks can't be fair
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Old 07-12-05, 06:00 PM
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I can only give this a 6 rating b/c i havent played other sites. I have read just about every one of the post above. Some of you make sense and some of you wouldn't know if a garbage truck crashed into your living room. I can not comment on the whole "cheating," and "rigged," flops. I've seen some wild ones. I have been beaten with crap and i've dominated the playing field with crap. I win just about as much as i lose. These bad beats happen everywhere. My pocket aces have been slaughterd by pocket 4's or nines for example. The other day im playing in a casino in louisiana. my hand 2s-4s. my opponents hand 5s-10s. the flop is Ad.3s.5d. i flopped the nut straight. the other guy flopped a pair. i bet big, he calls, the turn is 9s. this time i bet bigger knowing that for the moment i still have the best hand. he calls, the river is another spade. now i have the nut flush which i didnt care for. i was happy with the straight. nothing on the board could beat the straight until the spade came out on the river. i check on the river and so does he. he turns over his flush which was better than mine, but not by much. i asked him why i he kept calling, he tells me he thought i was bluffing. after losing most of my chips on that hand i play a few more until i decide that i have to make a move. i go all-in with 9d-3d. the other guy had KK. i catch a 3 on the flop and one on the turn so beat his KK with a set of 3's.9-3 is never an all-in hand suited or not. in fact it should never even get to see the flop unless your limping in on BB or SB. i lost 900k in one hand on pokerstars the other day only to have my Kc.8c beat by Ac.Jc."FLUSH" it was a huge hit. Crazy thing is...im just as likely to get beat by that flush on any other gambling site there is. One really cool thing that i like about PS are the 40k tables. of course PS didnt make the 100/200 tables to be played this way. Their many number of fans came up with a few ways to win enormous amounts of play money chips. the "rules" on a 40k table are as follows. you buy-in with 40k, after being dealt your hole cards, you have two options. Bet your whole 40k pre-flop or fold. sounds simple enough right? well it is. Not a whole lot of skill involved just pure luck. you either hit or you dont. i was suprised to see so many pots get taken down with a high card ace or king, and you can lose 500k in 10 minutes or win a million in 10. Ive done it both. i've only been playing on PS for about 4 months, and it is great. however, there are some extremely bad players also. you would think that after earning enough chips to never have to sit back down at a 5/10 table, the players would have got better, and for the most part they have. but some of these people resort to buying play money chips with real money. and playing on the 100/200 and winning by chasing and making bogus calls. so much for having to earn your way to the million plus club. im going to wrap this up now. if your interested in getting in contact with me. my unprofessional e-mail address is [email]jeff.jcjones1108@gmail.com[/email]. thanx and good luck to everyone
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Old 07-19-05, 06:00 PM
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I don't know what the fuss is about. Pokerstars works well. These ppl complaining about 4 of a kinds popping up regularly? I've been playing on here for quite some time, and I hardly see 4 of a kinds. And I see ppl with low pairs or high card. The ppl who complain don't understand odds, and get upset by a bad beat. Bad beats are bound to happen here and there. With so many ppl playing on the site, you are bound to come across ppl who play against the odds. Learn to accept it and move on. In the long run, the good players will make money. But of course, poker is like sex... everyone thinks they are good at it, when in fact, most ppl aren't. That's my 2 cents. Later.
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Old 08-01-05, 06:00 PM
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In one tourney ($1.20 buy in) a player got pocket aces three times in a row.... the odds of this occurring are approximately 10.7 million to one. In the same tourney, a player got quad aces one hand and quad queens the next hand.... the odds of this occuring are about 17 million to one. The odds of it occurring in the same tourney are about 20 trillion to one. I have seen 7 Royal Flushes in about one year of playing... Difficult to calculate the odds of that, but to the best of my calculations, I would need to play 24 hours per day for one year, at a nine person table, with all nine players playing every hand all the way to the river in order to see 7 Royal Flushes. Yes, bad beats are bound to happen here and there, but there is something about PokerStars that is not right.... So, if you want to give you money to this site, go ahead, but after it is gone, remember that you were warned. I deposited $50.00, and I am sorry that I did.
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Old 08-02-05, 06:00 PM
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odds you flop full house to your opponents 4 of a kind: (assuming you both ALREADY have a pocket pair, which is, being generous about a 1 in 10 odds you are up against an opponent where you both have pocket pair)His/her odds: Pocket Pair to hit quads on the flop, 3 cards to come, 2 outs then 1 out, 2 / 50 * 1 / 49, .08% 1 in 1250Your odds: Pocket Pair to hit full house (paired board and you hit trips) 3 cards to come, one has to be your card 2 / 50 * 1(any card) * 3/48(that other card to pair on the board), .24% 1 in 416I did some rounding but those numbers are fairly accurate, at least within .1% which is enough to prove my point...now odds you hit BOTH of those at the same time (you vs them) is 0.08 * 0.24 = 0.0192 = 1 in 5100 hands or so.that means that 1 out of every 5100 times you and your opponent heads up have pocket pairs preflop, one of you hits quads and one of you hits a full house... 1 in 5100 * 1 in 10 (for hitting pairs preflop against your opponent), 1 in 51000... I've played about 28000 hands on pokerstars in 8 months (2 hours a night, one table sometimes two, 60 hands an hour, assuming I play EVERY day for 8 months, I didn't).so I havent even seen enough hands to warrant seeing that combination going by the probabilities... but low and behold, I see it at least once a night on my table, sometimes two...I could go and talk about all the other ridiculous flops to raise rakes, but I wont... that site is rigging the flops... but to be fair, it rigs it randomly towards any players, so if you always play the same, and never go all in, you can be a break even player with some luck.it is however possible to see the bad beats coming, and just always fold all big hands and make small bluffs (thats how I see people making money online) and that is actually a valid real life strategy too on very tight tables. but from what I've seen, they are definitely rigging action flops. good luck all on that site.
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Old 08-06-05, 06:00 PM
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Well either Pokerstars is rigged or somebody has a hold of a cheat sheet (maybe a spreadsheet file of games and the winning hands...that's always been a strong rumor). I don't buy the whole 'bad luck' thing that others are saying. These are the people who have 'good luck', so they're not objective to what others are going through. I've lost too many good or at least satisfactory hands against the bad beat players who go in with squat and end up with the chips (or money on the real money tables). There is no cure against them. I tell the truth in poker...I play my cards. It works for me at the casino, but it doesn't work online (especially on the free tables) because there's nothing to lose. On the free money tables, people can lie all they want and at the end of the day, even if they've lost, they still have that Porsche in their front yard. There aren't many players (at least smart players) that will do the same at the casino. Anyway, my point is that liars are more popular today than ever before. Just check out reality TV or the government (I won't say which one, but take a guess). Pokerstars rewards liars. I rate it a 2 only because it allows you to transfer chips to other players. Whenever I win something (which is rare because you guessed it, the liars usually win or at least get lucky on the turn and river), I send my chips over to my dad or my mom. They like playing Pokerstars more than I do, but then again, they both have no problem with lying. I guess the casino's different because its controlled (not all-in) and it doesn't have a cheat system which I'm sure Pokerstars has (no other way to explain those who always win. Nobody's that lucky).
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Old 08-09-05, 06:00 PM
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Well, I believe I have to throw my 2 cents in as well. I must be honest, I have read these reviews many times for many different sites, I was never going to post anything myself but after the last month has gone I must steer anyone clear who is thinking of putting any money into online poker! I deposited $25 one night to test Pokerstars out...(be it, this is after I have gotten reamed multiple times by Party Poker)...and I made $300 the first 2 days! I mean I was placing money everywhere...if I was in a sit & go, i got to top 3 no problem! Just playing good solid poker seemed to be working on pokerstars, I made as much in 2 days as i would make a 5 or 6 at work..so I was happy for the time being. That's when it got ridiculous, and for anyone who says "people who say online poker is rigged are sore losers"....I would love for you to sit at a table with me for one night and see what I see! Take this hand for example, and my only conclusion from this is that this guy is either a total retard when it comes to poker or he knew what was coming....anyway I get dealt KK on the button, I raised 4x the big blind preflop and was called by the big blind, flop is K-9-4, I dont slow play trips so I raise about the size of the pot...so after I raise 4x the big blind and bet the pot on the flop, my opponent comes over the top all in...at this point i'm loving it...so I call the cards flip...just to recap...I have KK - flop - K-9-4 opponent comes over the top...I REPEAT over the top all-in and shows A10, I was cracking up, but not for long, guess what boys and girls turn Q river Jto give him a str8...now I ask, either this fool was tired or he knew what was up, either way i'm tired of watching internet poker sites reward bad play so my play has moved to my casino where I dont have to battle with a B.S. computer that wants as much rake as possible. I used to read these msg's all the time hoping to find a legitimate poker site but I want everyone reading this to know that there is no legit poker site, they are all there to make money plain and simple...and they can kiss my A** becuase they will never see another dime of mine...PEACE
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Old 08-09-05, 06:00 PM
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oh yeah, this little tidbit as well, after the guy goes all in with nothing, I asked him what the hell he was doing, his reply is "I was priced in", seriously, he has $1300, calls a $120 raise preflop and he's priced in....ROFL
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Old 08-16-05, 06:00 PM
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GREAT SITE!!!!! Very realistic Cards
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Old 08-16-05, 06:00 PM
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It doesnt have enough chips per hour and people get to many unrealistic card to often
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Old 08-16-05, 06:00 PM
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sorry i forgot to tell you all that i was talking about pokerstars if anyone finds a better site to play poker for fun and for cash please tell me
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Old 08-17-05, 06:00 PM
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I played at party poker for about a year, hit it big (for me at least) in March of this year. I won $8100 in a span of 2 weeks, cashed out and then began too see the most unbeleivable bad beats ever. So after months of giving my winnings back, I signed up at Poker Stars(about 2 weeks ago). I deposited $50 and in my first hour at the .5/1 NL table I was up to $250. In the next week i was up another $100 and had the original $50 up to $350+. It was so relieving to see good cards hold up, as on Party I would almost always get my money in with the best hand but would lose to some ridicolous beats. So last Friday night I withdrew $50 and it has been all down hill. I kid you not, in a 2 night span I was dealt pocket pairs 22 times, and not once did I hit a set--on all 5 community cards. That seems abit unreal, being stats say you hit a set 20% of the time when holding pockets. Anyways, I am now down to $94 in my account and I am curious to see if this withdraw curse is for real on Stars as well as Party.
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Old 08-21-05, 06:00 PM
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I won $500 off a 100 deposit the first day I played. I was absolutely clueless. Naturally I lost it all and then some.I've got very good since then - 6 months ago. I rarely make mistakes now if at all, though I'm no master at stealing blinds, or sniffing trips or whatever psychic insight you need for 'the edge'.In these past 6 months, I've had 2 good days and god knows how much I've pissed away the rest of the time.I'll only talk about Pstars - Party Poker was so bad, on 3 occassions I've gone 80+ hands without seeing a pair on a flop!In poker stars last sunday for example, I played in about 15 tournaments, and in 4 of them I went 30-40 hands without a winner. Of those tournaments, my game ended all but twice when I went all in with the best hand, in most of those cases after the flop, and was sucked out. Action flops for sure. My favorite personal anomalie - pair of 4s, 4 consecutive hands. some math wizard want to give me the odds on that?as for the quads though - one table i saw quads 8 times in a couple of hours (held them 2x myself). but I haven't seen them since, in weeks.those statistical anomalies can indicate a bad random number generator, not necessarily a fixed game. However, the action flops, the % of river winners, seems absurd. While I can't guarantee it's fixed (could be that I'm just the unluckiest guy in the world), I do want address the 'anti-conspiracy theorists' who argue why would they rig it when they make money off the rake?my god that is so ludicrous - why do people steal cheat and lie period, instead of being happy with what they go? why make a billion when you can make a million? get a brain. Gambling is an addiction, and they know people will keep coming back, especially seeing how often bad players are rewarded. 'maybe it's rigged, but next time i'll play so perfect I'll get paid'.How would you go about it? I would embed logic that tracks players by every means possible - IPs, bank acct numbers, and most of all frequency of deposits - and select losers to drain on a continual basis. Throw em a bone once in a while, keep em coming. This isn't wild conspiracy - it's the way con jobs have worked forever. Particularly in the gambling world. That said, i'm stupid enough to keep trying. play your worst and take my money on pokerstars!
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Old 08-30-05, 06:00 PM
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Here's something to think about when you're wondering if PokerStars (or any online pokerroom, for that matter) is "rigged". Think back to when you first signed up for PokerStars (or whatever room). Weren't your hands great? Didn't you feel like Poker God? Have you noticed that all the poker rooms have VERY STRICT policies about existing players altering their accounts in any way whatsoever for any reason? I wonder if maybe that's not a "rule" because the sites are slanted in order to get their hooks really deep into new players before they suck them dry.
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Old 10-19-05, 10:06 PM
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I have been to many site's and PokerStars.Com is the best all around On-Line.

For all you that complain about one account, Its to stop peeps from chip dumping to others or to there self. Your IP is matched to your account name to stop this. Any site that allows this is asking for thiefs.

As for the so called bad or good FLOPS, I ran the numbers from the history reports. They are as close to real as you can get.

As for the fish. You just have to deal with them like any other site. They could have a advantage in the beginning, Cause they have never been at a real table, they learn quicker to read players habits. But they have no idea of odds, So they lose in the long term. Like someone said your going to see more Flushs, Straights and Full house's cause they stay to the end which gives the preception of the River card being fixed.


Give it a 9
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Old 03-30-06, 08:53 AM
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i have played on 10 poker sites i rate this the best one by a mile.
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Old 04-07-06, 09:37 PM
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i take it back i have had aq last ten times every time someone has ak every time i havent hit a queen once,then i get ak vs aj he hits jack on theriver no one ever play online for real money biggest joke online call with rubbish u hit joke.
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Old 04-08-06, 12:10 AM
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so the site went form the best to being unplayable in 6 days?
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Old 07-13-06, 09:31 AM
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dont ever play on this site about 80% of the players are donks who catch lucky i raised 100 b4 the flop with ak one caller flop was 876 both checked king was the turn i bet 180 he called river was 5 he checked i checked he had 34 offsuit called 100 raise preflop with 34 and on the turn drawing dead to a 5 but if i had a 9 he would lose what a donk.
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Old 08-04-06, 11:32 PM
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Maybe that is a lesson to quit calling raises with aq which I'm sure you did at least a couple of those times
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Old 08-10-06, 02:54 PM
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JokerStars

LOL! Some of the worst players in the world reside right here at pokerstars. I decided to leave this joke of a site after three consecutive awful beats in 2 tournaments.

I had around 7,000 chips another player had about 800 and one other had around 6,000. Blinds are 200/400. I raise BB to 1,500 player with 800 goes all in, the other player raises me to 3,000. I go all in, he calls has Q10. Flop comes Q 9 6 turn 10 river 3. So i lose most of my stack. left with about 1,000 chips I'm dealt JJ I go all in only to be called by someone with 9 10. Flop comes A 10 A turn 9 River 10 LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL! The guy has literally no outs but some how catches on the river.

Finally the last tourney I played in, the blinds were 100/200 I had around 2,800 player to my left had 3,200. I'm dealt pocket 10's he goes all in I call. He has 76. Flop comes A 3 5 turn 9 river 4.

I know bad beats are a part of the game but when I lose three consecutive hands where I'm a good 87% to win, that's a little strange to me.
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Old 08-10-06, 03:29 PM
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Follow up to JokerStars

To follow up om this, I emailed pokerstars about these ridiculous beats and all they say is people run in bad luck streaks. LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL! Are you kidding me? That's your excuse? Three times in a row where I have an overpair to 2 undercards and I lose. It's bad luck? Sorry bad luck is losing one of those three hands (KK vs. Q10) (JJ vs 910) (10 10 vs 76) I wanna know what the odds are of losing those hands 3 times in a row?

The guy told me if I saw a pattern there'd be a problem and that I should be happy that I lost those hands. He said if I won those hands everytime there would be a problem? What?

On another note, I was playing in tournament where 2 people were telling each other their hands so they wouldn't bet into each other. This was when there was 4 of us left. It was pretty obvious they wanted it to come down to those 2. Telling each other "I hit it" or I have a Ks when 4 spades were on the board. I emailed them about this as well and they told me it takes weeks to process cheating.
Again what? How hard is it for them to look at the tournament chat,when I give them the tournament number and the two players names involved, and see they were telling each other their hands. Nothing will be done. They're all talk and no action. It's a bunch of smoke and mirrors
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Old 08-31-06, 10:02 AM
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Donkeys rewarded HERE!

I had a few bucks left in this account so I decided to play a couple of SNG multi table tourneys. ABout half way through I have 2,700 chips guy to my right has 3,200. I'm dealt J10 in the BB flop comes J 10 6. He bets 500 I go all in he calls with Q8 LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL! Turn Q RIVER 9 LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL! Of course anyone good player would call over 80% of their stack with a gut shot str8 draw. Next tourney is even better. 15 of us left. I have 4,500 in chips guy to my right has 8,500. I'm dealt A7 call the BB. Flop comes 227. He bets 2000 I go all, he calls. HE HAS KQ no draw, no pair but of course on this joke of a site he hits a King on the river. If you're a DONKEY or a FISH this is the site for you. Constantly rewarded for awful play. It's no wonder that NO PRO represents their site. Play at Full Tilt much, much better site!
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Old 08-31-06, 01:56 PM
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Hahaha!

That sounds about right dude. One other thing, since they told me abour their RNG being "legit" and only if I saw patterns should I be concerned well I started to notice a pattern. Almost anytime someone goes all in preflop with a pocket pair (Not aces) against someone with an ace and ace will hit the board. I told them about this and they sent me my hands history LOL. They said in coin flip situations I won 8 out of the last 14 hands. What does that have to do with my question? Coin flips could be 22 vs 76. They avoided it at all costs. It had gotten so predictible I had pocket 9's one hand and just called the BB someone then proceeded to go all in, I folded, then predicted the flop would come AKQ. It came AKQ. 2 hands later I saw someone go all in with KK vs A3. I then predicted an ace would hit the board, like clockwork, flop came A 3 9, so as usual pocket kings were no good. I'd strongly suggest not playing here but if you choose to, when you call a preflop all in with two 10's you better hope you're not up against an ace or you'll lose.
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Old 10-21-06, 11:33 PM
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Donkeys look like geniuses on PokerStars

I just lost 3 times with pocket aces (all in preflop) in 1 tourney on PokerStars... NOT BS. I am so distrought over it I did a search and found this site. Reading the posts has somewhat consoled me. In the tourney, I had built my stack early on to about 3500, when I get AA. Guy goes all in for around 2000, I call, he has QQ. He rivers a Q. OKAY well it happens right? Pocket aces CAN lose. You are ONLY a FOUR TO ONE FAVORITE over another pocket pair before the flop, but it can happen. But if I get them again, watch out haha because surely they will not lose again (uhm...WRONG). Now I build my stack back to about 4000 by a half hour into the tourney. I am playing very well and feeling good. I have put the loss with rockets behind me like you should. You have to forget about that bs. Well, I get AA on the button. Guy in early position goes ALL IN with about 2800. Boom I got you boy HAHA woohoo. I can't fold this of course, so I call and he shows 88. Oh I'm gonna whoop up on those snowmen YESS. First card on the flop is an 8. No, an ace does not come to save me. So, stunned, I'm down to like 1200 when I should have been chip leader of the whole tourney right now. OK, wow, well I don't even want rockets now haha *grumble*..... But of course I do AGAIN about 40 mins into the tourney. I have about 1100 in chips left, I go all in, get called by JJ. Flop is 4 K Q. Turn is 9. River is 10. So I lost with pocket aces 3 times within like 40 mins and it took me out of an otherwise successful tourney. I have never gotten beat twice with pocket aces in whole day of playing on other sites. And I took a sh*tload of unbelievable beats on PokerStars back in late '05 so I stopped playing there, but never posted on a forum about it because I thought it was a fluke. I vowed I would never go back, and look what happens when I break that vow. Call me a pussy or whatever for whining about this, but I want to see how well you take it when this happens to you. And it will if you play on PokerStars. Anyway, to wrap this up, listen to the people on here, they know what they are talking about. Only play on PokerStars if you are a donkey and usually the underdog when you get all your money into the pot, because you will come out a surefire winner on PokerStars.
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Old 10-22-06, 01:28 AM
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that sucks, especially in a tourney
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Old 11-17-06, 10:18 PM
BabyDii BabyDii is offline
 
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Should I keep my faith???

Hello all,

I am just a beginner and only played on the site for about 4 months. I heard many rumours that it would be rigged but I didnt know what to belive.
Today the most amazing thing happened to me sitting at this table I got poket pairs AA, QQ, KK in a row! I try to play properly every time by raising. First 2 times they go all in on me I call. Both had poket 9. Both times another poket 9 on the flop which gave them 4 of a kind! The third time I do it again raise he goes all-in I think alot but i about the money at this point, I was just curious too see so i call with kk ...and what can i see poket 9 again in his hand and a nine on the river! Well I'd really like to belive some other players took such a bad beat 3 times in a row...
Just not to feel lonely!
And to gain my trust in PokerStars again!
Good luck all!
 

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