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  #31  
Old 11-30-04, 06:00 PM
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its a very fun sight, but very unrealistic. if you look at the winning hand history its flush, straight, boat or 4ofakind every time. also, i think new players get better hands to get them hooked on the sight. anyone who says that these bad beats are just a part of life has never played in a live game. it is easy to make money on this sight, just realize that if you flop a set,or even a straight its not as sure a thing as if you were playing at a casino.
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Old 12-03-04, 06:00 PM
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Yah UB is crap, sorry to say for all those out there who like it. I just think there are better sites. I agree with the people that say bad beats are abundant online but that is only because you are seeing more hands with more people in them. Those who complain about bad beats probably have never played long hours of poker ANYWHERE. You play long enough youll see A straight flush beat four of a kind. I believe people just dont understand the percentages of the underdog. Yah they arent the favorite, but they still have outs. My problem with UB is the software, its not very impressive or eye pleasing and the shuffling sounds like someone farting. Otherwise its just another poker site.
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Old 12-11-04, 06:00 PM
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I have spent MANY hours on UB. The graphics are nice and the play is smooth. It is a great site for freerolls and play money poker. As far as real $$ are concerned, STAY AWAY!!! Don't tell me that UB has a fair deal. I emplore you to watch 400-500 hands with a pen and a notebook. Mark down all the times two to a flush fall on the flop. Then mark down all the times the flush card falls on the turn or the river. If you come back and say that it falls 25% of the time as it should, I'll eat your shoes. It is more like 50/50 or higher.
  #34  
Old 12-11-04, 06:00 PM
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i agree that there are way too many bad beats. As far as everything else, it is great.
  #35  
Old 12-13-04, 06:00 PM
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I Love Ub ,yes U Get Bad Beats But U Get Them In Real Life Too,+ On Every Poker Site Ub Rules
  #36  
Old 12-14-04, 06:00 PM
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Software is superb, but game selection isn't the greatest. UB has some of the tightest players online even at the low levels. Customer service is also pretty bad, no phone number so you have to use email or their contact forms.
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Old 12-20-04, 06:00 PM
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Used to love UB-nice graphics, faster play than Party Poker; HOWEVER, avoid sit n go's. I just played them for fun/practice, but some people sit down, but press the leave button and let computer play for them. Still noclue as to why they bother, but if you are still in at the end, you end up playing no one. Either you have to keep clicking the bet button until you get all the chips, or leave yourself. I would try & leave-but ur still on the seat. This lead to UB CLOSING MY ACCOUNT and booting me off of UB!!!!!!! And it wasn't even me doing this stupid stuff! Anyone else have this happen or suggestions?
  #38  
Old 12-21-04, 06:00 PM
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It's by far the best site that I've played on, and despite what people say, it's more realistic than most. I've played here for 6+ months, and I'm doing a bit better than even, which is all I can ask for. Anyone who is talking about and complaining about the money they are losing probably shouldn't be playing at all. If it's going to bother you that much to play and lose, don't play.
  #39  
Old 12-26-04, 06:00 PM
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This site is great in some aspects. the software is the best i've ever played at. Their deposit and withdraw options are good as well. As far as actually poker goes. The bad beats are abundant. 2 times i've managed to build my stack at $.50-1.00 to roughly $80.00. 2 times i've flopped top 2 pair, to only lose all of my money to someone flopping trips. I've seen it happen to other players as well. Their bonus system is very poor as well. It takes 4EVER to finally get your pending bonus dollars after depositing. U can play for four hours on one table and they'd probably release about 12 dollars into your account. it it ridiculously slow. Overall, i would suggest you stay away from ultimate bet, Software adn everything is very attractive and good, but as far as the cards coming, someone will always have trips, and play your low trips if you do decide to play there, you'll get a set more often than not.
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Old 12-27-04, 06:00 PM
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if you went on any poker site or to any poker room thats a real life one and used a notebook to record everything than used the statistical data for comparison between online poker and live poker youll be astounded. Those who think its rigged will be the ones astounded however, because youll find its +-10% the same which realy means nothing because its all chance so the difference goes to +-1% with other things factored in (quality of shuffling and just pure chance). Stop being whiny babies, if you lose you lose. If you cant take the beats than im sorry to say the you shouldve figured out a long time ago that pokers not for you. To tell you the truth, ive actually had most of my worst bad beats at a real poker table than online. Thats a sad statement for those considering it rigged. Why you say? cause ive played 10s of thousands of more hands online than in real life and the beats are just the same....
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Old 12-27-04, 06:00 PM
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Moreover, for those who havent realized why you just cant see to win with a big flopped set or pair or whatever you think should never be beat on the river, take into consideration the pace of online poker. The reason it seems like so many bad beats is because the speed of the game is 20X faster than real life games hence 20X more bad beats. Common sense.
  #42  
Old 12-27-04, 06:00 PM
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::laugh::...i just read a post by navone above and laughed hysterically for 20 minutes. "whoever says the beats arent bad never played in a live game." funny cause i play live tourneys 2 to 3 times a week and the beats are bad. By the way, what casino do you play at. I'd like to know where i can go that a flopped set is always a sure thing. Was at the Borgata last week and flopped a set of queens and got beat on river by a straight. Later i flopped an Ace high straight and got beat on river by a flush. Maybe the poker room there is involved in screwing its players out of their money...
  #43  
Old 12-28-04, 06:00 PM
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Was a regular player at UB for a little over a year in low limit games. Up slightly over 4k. Here is my review of UB graphics: 9 customer service: 7 cash out: 10 game selection: 9 software reliability: 6 Tournies: 9 Random card generation: 0 (laughable) Finally left the site about two months ago, after noticing a substantial change in their random card generation. It was the norm to see straight flushes and quads several times a night. The bad beats are legendary. Throws your game off because the percentages are markedly off for flushes, full houses etc. I was sad to go because I loved the site otherwise.
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Old 12-29-04, 06:00 PM
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i write the programs for many of these sites, im telling you they are rigged. im being investigated right now so i feel its my duty to let you all know what your getting in to.
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Old 12-31-04, 06:00 PM
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I've been playing on UB for over 2 years now and it is still my favorite. I've tried fulltilt, partypoker, and a few others but always end up back at UB. I play real money tables but low level (2/4) as well as many $20-$50 buy in tourneys. As I mentioned, I've been playing there consistently for over 2 years and have neevr seen any of the descrepencies listed above. to the comment about too many straight flushes, please tell me what tables you're at as I've hit a straight flush twice in 2 years at UB and rarely see them.
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Old 12-31-04, 06:00 PM
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congrats programwriter. Tell me, which software did you write? And whos investigating you? Dont say the US cause 90% of online poker sites are based over seas and the US has no jurisdiction when investigating...show us some proof youre not one of the ppl above who have a vendetta against these sites...oh wait you cant cause you are...
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Old 12-31-04, 06:00 PM
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by the way, im a computer programmer myself...what language did you use??explain some of the stuff you did with shuffling algorithms and the basic programming and maybe ill believe you
  #48  
Old 01-01-05, 06:00 PM
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well here's my two cents worth.I have played on Ub since it opened and about 15 other poker sites. the worst cheater site is by far Absolute Poker. yes Ub has cheaters and I brought it to their attention.I must say,UB said no matter how hard they try they cannot keep the cheats out.its everywhere but they do their best. they are the only ones who gave me the truth all the other site I found cheaters on and reported denied that cheating can happen. Royal Vegas is another to watch.and I agree with captcrunch that Ub (ulitimate bet) has a screwed bonus bucks.I still have bucks pending. just another way to make you play real money. lets face it players these sites are in for it to make them money not you. and as long as there are sites we will play them some will be lucky and win most will lose and the big winners is there players so it.s your call.i'm out of here going to look for a hot game
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Old 01-09-05, 06:00 PM
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Anyone who is stupid enough to invest any amount of real money on Ultimate Bet deserves to lose!! Rigged up tournaments, computer generated players and consistent "highly unlikely" hands coupled with idiot/extremely homophobic 17 year olds and otherwise nasty white trash!! Save your $$ and go to a real casino!!
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Old 01-17-05, 06:00 PM
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OKAY LETS MAKE THIS PERFECTLY CLEAR. The reason for there being so many "BAD BEATS" in these poker rooms isnt because they are actual "BAD BEATS" they are "BAD BETS". The only reason people call them bad beats online is because they called the raise or all-in in the first place. These situations that arise where "bad beats" are involved online dont occur in real life poker as often for many reasons: such as - when you sit down to play poker on your cpu for an hour, its basically like playing REAL LIFE poker for 12 hrs!! Imagine the bad beats you would see in a 12 hour period of poker!! (or play online for an hour) OR the people playing online dont really know what a badbeat is. these are the main 2 misconceptions ive come across. Get a book, read it, and then play poker by the numbers,,,not just HANDS ----->>> BETTING
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Old 01-17-05, 06:00 PM
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Is it only a bad beat when the pot is big or someone goes all-in??? Think about it. Would it have been a bad beat if you just bet minimum through to river and lost on river, or only if you were all-in and lost on river??? What if the other player went all-in preflop with a weaker hand, weaker hand after flop, weaker after fourth street, but beat your two pair A A K K 8 (A A in hole) with 3 of kind 8 8 8 K K( 8 8 in the hole)??? Is that a BAD BEAT??? What if it was all-in after the flop? BAD BEAT?? or BAD BET by the guy with pocket 8's but he won!? Or is it just good luck?? REMEMBER: If YOU are the one CALLING the ALL-IN, you can't be beaten by a "BAD BEAT", you could have FOLDED. A "BAD BEAT" can only happen to the person who bets first because until the cards get flipped, nobody has a better hand. Chew on that
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Old 01-19-05, 06:00 PM
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I fail to see the logic of building cheats into the program. They are already making 5% rakes on every pot, times hundreds of hands per hour, times hundreds of tables. Just calculating that on an avg pot of $40 X 15 hands per hour X 200 tables and its a whopping $6000/hr! The amount of money they are making on the rakes is mind boggling! So they would risk this by trying to cheat the very people who are making their site a huge success? Don't think so... the risk vs reward ratio doesn't make enough sense to risk it.
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Old 02-01-05, 06:00 PM
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If you don't play wild and reckless.... your bad bet chances go down severely... I once played at a real face to face table and played 2 hands in 2 hours. There were 6 hands that I would have won.... but 13 that I would have lost on "bad beats". The reason people think that there is cheating is the same reason someone screams cheating in John Madden football... they suck
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Old 02-02-05, 06:00 PM
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I've basically played all the biggies. Party's the worst. UB is probably the best, i.e. the most likely for a good player to do well. That said, the software is definitely built to level the game--that is, to pay off weaker players at the expense of better ones. To answer your (1/20/05) post, innocent, you're missing the point. Of course the house is making money on the rake. But the house ALSO has to make money from deposits, which FEED the rake---people don't just push money back and forth all day long to pay off UB--there have to be winners and losers....I'm surprised more of the naysayers haven't commented on the cashout curse--maybe it's because none of you are winners. Well, I'm a winner, and I can tell you both times I've cashed out at UB I've gotten hammered by the software---not just dodging a firestorm of bad-beat bullets, but getting dealt garbage cards for hour after hour. Also, there is a discernible difference between the bad-beat factor on the 5/10 NL and 2/4 and lower NL games. Clearly either the 5/10 games have "favored" or house players who UB is paying off at the expense of wannabes, or there's some SERIOUS hacking going on. Far as I can tell, the only way to win consistently at ANY of these sites is to play low limit NL so that the advantage you can take of the weak players offsets the advantage the software will take of you once you start cashing out. I will not risk any serious money on UB or any of these sites. Back to you, innocent, remember...if all the best players were allowed to win consistently, the volume of the rake would drop dramatically because eventually all the fish would run out of money. Also, you think people won't play in Vegas because the house is against them? People love to gamble and they know the software's not perfect--AND THEY DON'T GIVE A SHIT...they ante up and play because they're hooked. All of these sites admit the so called RNG is PSEUDO random at best...and they all have taken great pains to build routines into their algorithms that hand winning players bad beats to keep them feeding at the trough. Bottom line: you can't trust ANY of these sites, and shouldn't, because they CANNOT BE REGULATED so they have a license to steal with impunity. If you want to have some fun and take a chance at getting lucky with decent software, try UB...but play 2-4 or lower NL games, and DON'T cash out until you're ready to go on vacation for a while--because they'll ream you if you ante up again the next day.
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Old 02-03-05, 06:00 PM
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finally i can see some ppl with intellect and sanity posting on here. To everyone else its like a conspiracy is going on. Stop blasting the sites, particularly this one. The point about the fact you see more hands online then in real life was made by me before. Its a good argument but these people dont get it. The ones who cry cheating are the ones who lost their money (probably due to compulsive gambling habits) and need some closure in their life as to why they failed at poker.
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Old 02-04-05, 06:00 PM
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Only site I have stayed loyal to. I have made many withdrawals and there is no link between this and bad beats. I get the plus side of the bad beats as often as the negative side. Does seem to generate some unreal hands (most recently AA,KK,QQ in a 6man game - fortunately I had the AA and it held up) but playing this many hands should mean some "unreal" hands. I have won more many here than any other site. Only complaint or recommendation: They need Higher Limit Heads Up sites as it tough to keep a shorthanded game shorthanded.
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Old 02-04-05, 06:00 PM
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Sherriff on 2-3-05 said it best. I have to agree with you. You take money out...and forget about winning. Also, flopped a full house, Aces over Jacks. I slow play it, and one guy bets, another raises,I then raise, and I'm called by both players. Turn card is an 8, I check, guy next to me bets, next player raises, I then check raise them, the one guy folds, the other guy raises me. I call. River is another 8. I bet, he raises, I raise....you guessed it I was beat with four 8's. Who stays in with that, on a 2 /4 table??? Something is not right. I enjoy the site out of all the others, just finding it harder and harder to make a profit.
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Old 02-05-05, 06:00 PM
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Stay clear of UB. It is complete fake.Unrealistic bad beats. This people who say they have won there are fake too. Think about that. He won $ 600 in few days? No problem tell him to play there for a month and then to make comment. First of all % of AA winning is less then normal you loose you AA to any cards two out of three times on UB. I have been playing there for few months everyday so i know. Guy will call you with 7/9 and get it. How about loosing your three Q's to FOUR 2's? Is that for real? When i complained to UB about those deals they told me that cards are dealt for 1000 tables at the same time and it is possible to get results like that when you throw dice 1000 times you get it? Dude if you play decent poker and wait for AK suited dont play at UB. YOu get Ak suited and someone has AA you can be sure. Aint crying about bad beats but this is unreal and most of all i think they manipulate they shuffler. Why i am saying that? When you deposit like $ 100 next game you play you win no matter what. Try and see. NO CUSTOMMER SUPPORT at all.!!!
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Old 02-05-05, 06:00 PM
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like tourneys there but agree also, something is up with the bad beats, every tourney i've been for the last 3 days has ended in the most horrendous beats that it is just hilarious. To end it today i'm playing in 3 sit n go's, down to 4 people in all three of them. Go all in with JJ get called by 1010 to lose when a 10 rivers. 15 seconds later 4 players left next sit n go, all in with 77, get called by 66 who rivers a 6, lol other sng 1 minute later AK suited hearts vs A clubs K spades, 4 clubs fall lmao. This isn't right. Tourney I got knocked out of right before those sng's flopped straight went all in got called by top pair who runner runnered full house. LMAO, WTF. This is in about 3 hours, I don't even remember all the crap that has happened in the last few days.
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Old 02-11-05, 06:00 PM
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UB is as rigged as they get. There is always some one with the nuts and that should not happen often but it does this and now other sites. The whole internet poker is not right. This companies are rigging their sites because they can and not montiored much by their governments. If you decide to play internet poker you are an idiot you should stick to casinos where you know they play it fair.
 

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