ONLINE POKER - SITE - Full Tilt

Full Tilt is a great poker engine. It is nice to have the avatars and being able to change the avatar's emotions is a nice little additive in the program along with changing the background. One particular thing that is great on Full Tilt is the ability to rotate your seat at the table. Only downfall right now of the site is the lack of traffic in the mornings (currently there is 300 players online) which makes it difficult to find a game or fill a sit and go tournament. Pros play more often than you believe. Log on at night time and you are bound to see atleast one table occupied by a professional. The cards are fair and the play is very good. Beginners beware because most the players you encounter know what they are doing. Pros on the site that I've seen play or have played with include Andy Bloch, Phil Ivey, Clonie Gowen, Phil Gordon, Howard Lederer, Chris "Jesus" Ferguson, Rafe Furst, and John Juanda. They play at all different stakes, but typically about the $2/$4 range or higher. Hope this helps all of you and convinces you guys to download FTP.

I like being able to play with the Pros. And you don't have to be at high limits to play with them. This past weekend Phil Gordan sat down at 4 different 5 & 10 cent tables. The waiting list to play with him was about 20 deep at each table. I played in an Omaha Tourney with Chris Ferguson and was at his table for a while. I have also played with Clonie Gowan and Eric Siedel. Usually the Pros will chat, but are overwhelmed by "observers" asking questions. I will echo an earlier post and say it's sometimes hard to get a game, since there are so few players there right now, and also you WILL run into some bad players at lower limits, but on the whole the players seem pretty sophisticated. GREAT bonus right now.

software sucks cartoons suck

this site is good it was my first online poker site and i enjoy the software freerolls are nice but a waste of time

good site. The players here for the most part know they're stuff in accordance to the limit they are playing, unlike other sites where you are meeting up against a loose player making a great hand every time. I would like to see more players at full tilt in the earlier part of the day. The sit and gos are good and the pay outs at the multi tables are great. I originally hated this site a while back ago but coming back to it I have found it to be one of the best. PS Erik Seidel is a Class A champ. He really helped me in a pinch when I was obligated to serve military duties and couldn't make a tournament. So all you sharks need to take it easy on him (lol).

Oh yeah, Full Tilt's customer service is the best customer service of any BUSINESS on the internet. Holy crap they get stuff taken care of fast. If you order any merch using your points be prepared to wait (6-8 wks).

[HPG ADMIN]

"if u start to complain on the chat u lose every hand"

you really think that?

[purpleheartcop]

I have played a dozen sites and rate this as 5. While consistently turning a profit at other sites I lost at this site. It is fun sitting with Phil and Howard until you realize you are losing your pants to millionaire poker pros. Payouts take weeks instead of days.

[chelsearule1]

this week i have played on fulltiltpoker i had aq about 7 times i raise someone calls flop comes ace everytime and go all in everytime someone had ak everytime and i didnt hit a queen once never play on this site terrible.

[TheRaizer657]

Ok here are some of my experiences, make your own observation. I signed up on may 10th with 125 and made 1300 in 3 days(!) then all of a sudden I lost it all. On the following monday, I think the 10th was a wednesday, I was busted down to 75. The sunday after the 10th, I lost with AA 5 times IN A ROW to underpair all in preflop. I then sat with my whole bankroll on two tables, and in 3 hours was up over 600. Im sorry but that in itself is very uncommon. Anyway i decide Im done for the night I close one table and on another table, one that I had opened for 50 and now had 380, i click stand up and it says you cant while involved in a hand. I get dealt qq. Now, i had been getting dead cards almost an hour straight, and I SWEAR i get better cards if I try to leave my seat, consistenly. So I get QQ in the sb, it gets folded to the button who smooth calls(the players name is The Company no less his avatar is some white guy) and I raise to 8, a HUGE raise, to get him off so i can go to sleep. He smooth calls! The flop 242. I pot it and he smooth calls again, the turn brings a queen, i move all in for all my money and he calls, and shows 27OS. There is not a player in the world who will call that raise with 27os. So i have him drawing to one out in the deck, and he fucking hits it on the river for quads?!?!?! Thats not a bad play, he knew it was coming. I have a mind for patterns, and I'm very good at seeing them, and I kid you not, REPEATEDLY i lose big pots when im ahead, in casino play and homegames if Im the favorite moving all in my win percentage is naturally about 60%, online if I have the best hand I win maybe 10% if that. I REPEATEDLY lose the big pots and get my bankroll drained, only to then get some crazy win streak and make tons in an hour or two. Last saturday I won like 300 in like 20 minutes. ANother hand I flopped a set of jacks, and banged all in, I hit a boat and some guy hit runner runner straight flush. Also very often I get the exact same whole cards on multiple tables at once, i mean the exact same cards the exact same time, it happens very often and I would assume that means the system is purposely giving YOU what it wants or is programmed to, I do NOT think the cards are random at all. Just mo. Oh yeah one more thing, I have witnessed bad beat tables, about 2 days ago i was on a table and about 5 times in a row I saw an underpair hit a set and crack an overpair, I got kk and went up agaisnt AA which in a 6 handed game is pretty uncommon, i flopped a set, i had jacks a shortstack had 88 i raise he bangs all in i call he hits a set, i saw kings crack aces again and 99 beat 1010 and had it. Numbers dont lie and neither do I, if you're 20% then you're 20%, for these underpair to keep winning again and again is against the math of poker.-

ilove the argument that if your being cheated its because your a shitty player, and no u dont see the same bad beat in a casino, and the argument that there are more hands being delt so your going to see more crazy stuff is utterly rediculis, what does the amount of hands being delt have to do with the way the cards fall at KEY, times? the ones not claiming cheat are the ones that are calling all ins with 8-3 off and beating a-k all the time, hell ive won with bs hands and said oh thats not right, also how do online site support players going like 0-100 with pocket prs hitting the set, every site has there own little quirks like party poker is the flush capital of the planet ultimate bet is the st capital poker stars is the 2 pr capital and full tilt is the bad beat capital, for years ive went site to site to site looking for a fair game and have yet to find one, now y do i think online is rigged well here is my reasons, first anybody else noticed that on any tourny table the table chip leader ALWAYS seems to hit just what he needs at key times, also if a chip leader makes a very stupid move like calling an all in with an obvious st or fl on board and loses then the very next hand is delt a-a or k-k or a-k and they always hold up, also on limit games what is up with the im almost out of money all in with any 2 cards win, is this to keep the player in and rakes coming?? and theres alot more but im done for now

I log between 3-5 hours of poker per night and am I semi-professional player meaning that I supplement my income playing online poker. I can consistently make money at the other sites but boy is this site crazy. After playing at full tilt for a couple of hundred hours, I can't agree more that this is the bad beat capitol. I have seen flops where 6 players go all in and they have AA KK QQ AK etc. ALL at the same time! It's absolutely insane. Then usually, the lower pairs crack the higher pairs for some crazy pot. I can have AAA on this site and not feel safe. I once had four of a kind TWICE within two hands. Do the math on that one. Oh yeah, then someone else caught Four of a kind about ten minutes later. I guess someone will just bash this thread and say that I am complaining but I hope this helps to steer some newbies away and get a "fair" game somewhere els.

I don't doubt your post but where would the fair play sites be??

So glad I found this thread. I'm actually up 300K play chips at fulltilt. But the deals are so unlikely that i'll probably need to relearn the game. I consistently play rag-rag flush draws and win. I'm almost scared to go all-in on 4 of a kind, which I have seen as my own hand way too many times. An earlier poster was absolutely right, 4-of-a-kind gets beat by a another player's straight flush more than half the time. And I've seen way too many of each. By contrast, I've logged way more hours on a PC poker game and never seen a straight flush come up. Aces get cracked by small pairs far more often than they stand up. I'm not sure people are cheating. This site just encourages players to stay in until the river. Somebody's miracle card will be waiting there.

I'll find another site and start again. Any suggestions? I wouldn't want to put money on the table with the "skills" I've gained at fulltilt.

[HPG ADMIN]

play the way you play now but play micro-limit games - they should be the same as play money

[lsutygr]

I love playing on this site for play chips as a warm up to playing at the real casinos since im a pro player. I have played at about 5 different poker sites and found that they all have about the same degree of improbability. I was playing on this site one night recently and saw 3 quad hands 3 times in a row. to put that into perspective, the odds of that happening are close to impossible (for real table games). basically in order to win consistantly on any online poker site you have to have an adjusted style of play (usually the worst hand going in wins so you have to play every hand with extreme caution) which is why i will probably never put another dime into another online site. the negatives of online play outweigh the positives. negatives are 1)limited time to make decisions 2) limit on what you want to put into the account and withdraw 3)collusion happens all the time 4) you can be disconnected if using a wireless network too frequently costing you money (many times i had the nuts on the flop but was folded due to my connection being lost and that always seemed to happen when i had a definite winning hand) 5) action happens really quick so you will most likely lose full concentration after playing only 20 min basically putting you on tilt unless you have an immense amount of patience and concentration. live table games go much slower so for instance i can play all day until i am extremely tired without losing any focus on my reads or calculations. online poker is something that is currently being looked into for outlawing and i hope that happens so all of you online players can join me at the real games ( online players are so easy to spot at the table and they are the easiest to win against due to that altered play i talked about so please everyone that happens to read this, please play in the real games. i have mouths to feed :P

[Vicfats]

I too have noticed when playing two tables at FullTilt that I will often get the same hands at the same time on both tables. I don't know what the deal is with this, but I have taken all my money out it seems a bit fishy.

[bad_dog76]

You make great points about all online poker sites. I'm with you I hope they outlaw all of them and soon. I've broken about even as far as playing for money goes. But far too many times my all ins have been called on draws and gut shot straights. Even when I've been 87% to win preflop I've lost at least half of those hands. All sites are similiar bad play is rewarded. But this does help live play IMMENSELY! The last three times I've been to the local casino I've raked in the dough. I don't play high stakes (100 dollar buy in no limit table) But I cashed out $660 bucks in about 3 hours. I couldn't believe the amount of fish at the table. Playing cards like Q2 suited and J4. One hand I flopped quads and bet a little after the flop and the turn hoping the 2 callers caught, with an ace of spades on the river on had a flush and one had a str8. I won about $200 in that hand alone lol. Internet poker has definitely helped my cash in live games more than ever. I thank them for that!

[OoogaBooga]

THE OTHER COMMENTS HAVE PROBABLY CONVINCED YOU BUT WHAT HAPPENED TO ME WAS CRAZY.
YOU WONT BELIEVE THIS - ALTHOUGH KNOWING THIS SITE YOU WILL.

MY FIRST AND LAST HAND ON THIS SITE FOR PLAY MONEY -
I WENT ALL IN WITH As Ac - 6 PEOPLE CALL
OTHER HANDS:
10h Jh
Ks Kc
Qs Qc
Js 10s
Jc 10c
Jd 10d
9h 8h
Kd Qd
9 PEOPLE ON THE TABLE, EVERYONE IS ALL IN
FLOP:
Ah Kh Ad
HEY, I GOT FOUR ACES WOW! FIRST HAND ON THE SITE!
TURN:
Qh
IT'S MINE
RIVER:
2c
WAIT HE HAS A ROYAL FLUSH! NO WAY!

IF THAT'S NOT RIGGED I DONT KNOW WHAT IS...THAT'S THE CRAZIEST THING IVE EVER SEEN, THAT WAS THE ONLY HAND I EVER PLAYED ON THAT WEB SITE, IT FREAKED ME OUT SO BAD! MY FRIEND WOULDN'T BELIEVE ME WHEN I TOLD HIM ABOUT THE CRAZY HAND BUT I FOUND OUT YOU COULD PULL UP YOUR HANDS SO I SHOWED HIM IT... I WILL NEVER PLAY ON THAT WEBSITE EVER AGAIN.

[HPG ADMIN]

If it is your last hand on that site then you should still be able to pull it up. Pull it up and post a screenshot here.

[turtlehead45]

I play poker seriously to make money. I figured that the software is rigged and will speculate on why that is. On full tilt table, there is an autopost blinds button. When people are ready to leave the table and quit for the night, they usually uncheck this option. Over months of playing on this website, i have figured out that i get way above average hands way too often after this button is unchecked. Twice in one day when a friend was watching me play, i told him about this. After i was ending both sessions that i played that day, the hand immediately after i unchecked the "Autopost Blinds" button i was dealt pocket kings. Just today i also called it out. I told my friend this and the very next hand i was dealt AK suited. Of course this doesn't happen everytime, but it happes FAR TOO OFTEN. Why would anyone want to play at a site where this is the case? It will happen to you when someone else is ready to leave.

i have played poker for about two years now. im a good player who only plays solid cards i hardly ever bluff. because i only play quality hands. all sites are rigged but this is the worst by far. its true, if you play at two different tables you do get the same cards, and have you ever noticed after a hand, the next hand you will be dealt the winning hand. at least i do. it was so bad tonight. that i was calling out peoples cards at table. if your in a cash game, and you get 10s-kks fold them everytime. i have lost 400.00 tonight in the same scenario someone always had a higher pair everytime. and i lost twice with aces against 3s or 4s. it makes me so sick to watch this happen. This is how you know when ur playing on a rigged site. 1)when you know ur beat and you got pocket kings before the flop. ur getting the same cards over and over again. tonight i wrote down how many hands in a row i had a 2 rag. 22 hands in a row, and im not lieing either, 22 hands in a row i was dealt a 2. its unreal and unfair. what i cant understand is why havent some high stakes players complained, because only rich people can settle this dispute in court not the average class people. i hope you all never play on this site again. oh and if you do and u happen to win a tourney, they want let you withdraw the money for up to 2 weeks. please take my advise never play on this site again.

[missionjack]

The site sends out rollercoaster cards. The idea is to get you rollercoaster high and on tilt. Do not play ring games they have their own players. I have met two on other sites that have acknowledged themselves when I see them in fulltiltpoker ring games. They bankroll players at all limits give 15% and take 85% and guess who comes out on top at any ring game. These two people who I met long ago on Cryptologic network say the same thing certain hands hit over and over. K/7 and j/4 dominate. I have seen it. I have talked to fulltilt support and they roundabout deny it. The only players that win are the ones they choose. And their players change names once a month. Just play any limit and you will see winners disapear never to be seen again. Hmmm they win all the time but never come back, hmmmmmm.

[darin]

I have had bad beat after bad beat. I finally just won. Know how? I pulled all my money out of full tilt. I have played many sites, and this has been, by FAR, the worst.

BY FAR!

[bennyson2007]

i found this site just looking for answers, and after reading some of the comments and actually having 90% of that stuff happening to me.. its funny. ive spent 125 dollars american so prolly close too 200 dollars canadian on party poker. and ive lost it all, but to add to that. my very first hand i was delt pocket 10s on full tilt. i hit 4 of a kind on the flop. sum other dude had the same situation happen to him. how is that not rigged? haha, and since ive turned 19 ive gone to my local casino 2 times with less then 300 dollars on me and walked out with 700 and 500 more in my pocket... its just not worth it, but it seems so crazy. i buy in for 20 bucks, within a couple hours im up 2 100 bucks, within 2 hands im back down to 20 bucks.. king high flush on the flop. guy goes all in for 40 bucks, i call. blank on the turn, diamond on the river, buddy has the ace. i flop a straight with QJ board was 8 9 10, one guy all in with j 7 another guy all in with ace k. guess what the next to cards were.. Q J.. oh and this was at a 10 seated table, no seats open... now how fishy is that? what are the odds.. somebody get me a calculator.

[slimthuggahhh]

this is the first thread where every post I've read is wrong... guys you're only looking at one side of it. Of course bad beats and suckouts happen everywhere, live and online... it's part of the game. I think you have to be pessimistic to believe that sites are rigged, because they're not. You have to lose before you get good enough to be a winner and make fewer mistakes.... and online poker should never be outlawed, that's a horrible statement... that's like wishing someone to get in a car accident, cmon guys.

[chelsearule1]

i thought fulltilt was the best site i played but last two months about 100 bad beats and i put no bad beats on anyone,i had 10 10 flop was 10,a,8 he went allin i called he had aj turn card jack river ace sick,then 24 hourslater flop set of 10s agaisnt king high and hit runner runner straight both real money then i play fake money aces vs kings vs queens and donk flops a queen every time this site gives me bad beats real or fake money dont worry i give up on this site only pokerstars now joke site fulltilt only gd thing about it is phil ivey plays there and u can chat to him.

[Giuliozero]

...and I thought they were just impressions!
apart from the usual bad beats (AA loses its statistical power repeteadly on this site) I found much of what is written here absolutely correct and very much applyable to my situation on full tilt poker.
At first I thought I was just reacting as a bad loser to bad beats but then I just got curious and started studying what was going on...and fortunately I got suspicious BEFORE I put my money on the site!
If you play in real tounaments (real people sitting in front of you) just compare what happens on the site to what happens in real life.
i've seen more more quads on the site in one week than in all my life in real poker!
but the best was this:

4 people left in a tournament, 2 are playing the hand:
seat one raises
seat two re-raises
seat one calls

flop is 44J

seat one goes all in
seat two calls

so they show the cards and seat one proudly shows pocket 4s! alright: quads! way to go!
and seat two only has pocket 10s!
now seat one has 99.90% of winning and seat two has 0.10%! bye bye seat two!

but not so fast...turn card: a 10!
but hey, not that bad, seat one...you still have 97.73% chance of winning so relax!
unless the river card is...
(you can guess it..)
with a 2.27% of being there: another 10!

wow: that was unreal. but it's not over yet...
NEXT HAND (3 players left) goes as follows:

ME: QQ, I raise..bad move, the guy on seat two calls, seat three folds.
flop is Q 10 8

no problem for me: I go all in! worst move ever.

seat two shows: J 3 (how can you call a raise with that?)
well, turns out to be the best call ever since, despite my 95% percent of winning,

turn card is a nice ace,
river card is a nice K.

ok..straight. happens, (not too often but it happens)
bye bye to me.

THE VERY NEXT HAND: 2 players left

seat two: A J
seat three: Q K

flop is: K A Q

everybody all in.

now, who would YOU bet your money on hitting a FULL HOUSE?
if your answer was seat three, well I don't know how to tell you this but...you lost everything.

turn: J
river: A

end of the tourney. seat two wins.
and the things written on the previous posts about the "hot seat" start to make sense to me.

As Ah losing PREFLOP to 5c 5s
with a board with four clubs sitting there. science fiction? nope: I learned it can happen. On full tilt poker.

KK vs 99?
be sure a nine is coming out. OFTEN.
On full tilt poker.

DON'T GIVE THEM YOUR MONEY!
(or go see for youself...)

[fulltiltoffersaction]

This is from the FTP forums about it being rigged it's not so many bad players in USA
"I've said this a 100 times and maybe more to people Full tilt offers action in live poker the % of hitting a pair is %16 on the flop in FTP the chance is almost doubled maybe 3x that the site provides action that can lead 2 two things, Shakey Players and Gimps being busted.

I've tilted so bad so many times because of the players on this site and yet another pay cheque down the drain.

If Online poker is a clue to do something with your life it better be writing the software to realise there's 52 cards not 100.

Almost an ace always hits the board in every headsup situation and AK vs AJ - K 10 Q will always hit it's happened to me about a 1000 times and im furious ive given up on poker and players like jamie gold make me glad that he beat all the so "called" pros its a crap game that is all luck based.

[fulltiltoffersaction]

It's awesome i always represent middle pair or Highest card on the board but i play with hands like 4-5 4/10 / j/6 it pays off too play these on FTP they are really good against AK / AA.

ive given so many bad beats to people ive gone all in with $350 in a 10/20$ game and CHris ferguson sat in watched me hit a set with 4/9 - 4 4 a [ i raised all in guy called with just a lazy ace ] i beat him and he said ftp was rigged its not the style i use is playing with cards people dont use and if alot of people fold u can bet that they have one of the cards you need too bad beat them.

oh yeh i work for ftp as well i sit in on the ring games and play people its fun but the job is hard and i only work in china.