ONLINE POKER - SITE - Party Poker

Mediocre software, support and players (some may see it as an advantage though)

theres a lot of cheating going on with scanners you need to up grade for that / thank you

Hi, for me Party Poker give lucky hands for new players for come back here in to party poker again. Or give lucky hands for looser player. I play here from several mounths and if 1 day lost next day win..if 1 day win next day loose. never i wins 2 days or loose 2 days. why???All new players (several friends are include) in the beginning wins a lot..after..loose all in a few day!! why??? always!!!!! best regards..turn off the unlucky from my nick thanks.

For the biggest online poker site you'd think they would care more about customer service.. stick to pokerstars if you want to play somewhere you can trust. Stay here if you want a lot of fishy players.

Games used to be a lot looser than they are now. Better software can be found elsewhere and their support department is deplorable.

One of the worst poker sites on the web. Playing with play chips is a joke on this site. When you see a player have 20,000,000 play chips at the table you know youve come upon a shady site. I wouldnt dare play for real money on this site. Software and support are sad also. Dont waste your time downloading this crap.

Of course, you're always going to have the people who demand "proof" in the form of some million hand sampling (and even then, it won't be enough). Here are just a few observations as to why I feel PartyPoker is rigged beyond a shadow of a doubt. You can take my comments at face value.

First, if you've ever multi-tabled, you've already witnessed a definite, major indicator that something isn't quite right on PartyPoker.

Time and time again, if I have even only two tables open simultaneously, there is an uncanny correlation between the cards at the two tables (the behavior may or may not depend on where you sit, when you join the tables relative to one another, etc. -- I've never wasted my time digging that deeply; I'm there to play poker.). If I have hole cards of 2c/5s on one table, more often than I believe is "random" (to say the least), I'll see the flop on the second table contain 2c/5d, 2s/5d, even 2c/5s.

Multiple times on a whim, I've tried to take advantage of this odd "phenom" -- often, quasi-sucessfully. Example: Multi-tabling, two tables. Same game, same limit. Joined tables only a minute or two apart, if that. Random seating position. Flop on one table comes Q 7 x. Second table, I get hole cards of Q7o. Obviously, a hand you'd throw away in most all cases. I call, however, whimsically, as a test. Flop comes Q 7 x (different suits to the Q and 7, but the point remains). I still lose the hand to some other ragged hands, but that's not the point.

This alone happens often enough that something about seems a bit "off". However these "random" decks are seeded, they're not random enough. Maybe someone else out there has already figured out how to exploit this and is using it to their advantage.

Second, I think PartyPoker probably does have some type of mechanism in place to "encourage" action. I play at B&M casinos often, and while I relize that the number of hands per hour is tenfold online, you still see things online in one hour that you don't see at a B&M casino in ten hours.

I don't use tracking software, but many, many times, I'll toss a very marginal junk hand (Q9o, for example) from middle-late position, and a Q99 or QQ9 will flop. Of course, people will say, "You only remember the times that the flop is good for you! (or would have been)" Maybe that's the case for some, but I see this occur way, way more online in one day than I do at a B&M casino in weeks of playing. The reason is simple: get more players in, more action, bigger pots, bigger rakes.

Third, many people have mentioned their performance going downhill when they cash out. I don't cash out often, but I think I've seen very similiar behavior just with my existing bankroll. For example, I quit PartyPoker for several years due to my believing it's rigged. I gave it another chance recently, buying in for $300. I dropped $200 of it playing large multi-table tournaments with moderate buyins (typically $33). I played these for experience and enjoyment, not to build my roll.

Finally, I decided to move back to cash games to get back some of my initial investment, and simply to change gears. Not being driven by "poker ego", I sat at a very comfortable $100 pot limit (50c/$1d) 10-max table. In three or four hours, I turned the $100 into just over $300 ($303 to be exact). After that, I couldn't show down a winning hand for the life of me.

I know how I play, and if I have one poker strength, it's discipline (I may go nuts at the bad beats, but I continue to play "correct" poker by standards; I won't loosen up or try to break someone to get even).

That being said, I thought it was simply uncanny that the quality of the cards degraded in time so perfectly with my bankroll approaching my initial buy-in.

With anywhere from 40,000 to 80,000 people on PartyPoker at once, they obviously have dozens if not hundreds of servers in their little offshore hole... and with those servers comes a lot of power. It would not surprise me to learn that there are some very advanced mechanisms in place to tailor table action based on the players at the table.

As for the people who say, "Why would PartyPoker rig the cards?" Nevermind the fact that they're off-shore and basically subject to no laws whatsoever... The fact is that poker is "boring" by most people's standards. Yet look at TV. Big hands, big action, PartyPoker commercials. People who come to PartyPoker want that "big action" they saw on TV -- and most truly random hands have no such action. That being said, PartyPoker must "force" the action.

I'm currently deliberating buying back in for $100, grinding up to $400 (by playing only the stone cold nuts), cashing out, and never returning. I'll be looking for another more reputable online casino. I'll be honest... I like PartyPoker's look and feel, but I simply won't play at a rigged casino.

Quite frankly, I think there needs to be some better govermental control over this (and I think it's coming). I don't care if PartyPoker is located in Timbuktoo -- they should be required to release certain parts of their source code to true, un-paid, un-biased, third parties to ensure fairness. Right now, all we have is their word... and quite frankly, the "word" of an online casino means about as little to me as it can.

[bad_dog76]

For whatever reason, once in a while partypoker gives me $50 for nothing. I have no idea why but they do. I've found that playing every single hand and chasing every single draw pays off BIG TIME here. A good example, playing in .25/.50 NL holem table I'm dealt 47 suited I raise BB to 2.00 three callers. Flop comes 5s 8s Ah I bet pot get two callers next card Ad I go all in get one caller who had A8 and river comes, you guessed it 6s I hit my straigh flush LOL. Of course the person with the boat was mad but hey that's poker right? About 10 hands later I hit another straight flush playing 27, Flop came 3,4,5diamonds turn 6s river 6d LOL. Two straight flushes in a matter of 10 hands ?
Partypoker gives me money and I play like a fool only to cash in big time. I have nothing to lose so why not. I bet I'm up a good $800 or so from playing rags.

I LOVE PARTYPOKER!

Well all I have to say, is that Party Poker is the WORST maintained site of all. In the last 2 days, I have been in 2 cash tournys. The first was a $33 qaulifier for the 100000 dollar tourny they are running. After about 1 hour & 30 mins, and over 3/4 or all players gone im in chip lead and they cancell the tourny.

Thats Bad !, But in the process ig ain entry to a $1000000 tourny, which just happened to be cancelled as well about 1/2 way thru. Once again, Party Poker has fucked me over in good chip position . Now i try to ring them, and bear in mind im calling India from Australia.

The person i speak to, puts me thru to the supervisor, as i havent received a refund as the tourny was cancelled. The supervisor tells i nee to speak with his superior, and i would get a call in 15 misn, needless to say, its an hour later and im still waiting.....

Party poker should stick to small stuff, as its obvious their servers cant handle ay decent amount of traffic.

Originally Posted by bad_dog76

For whatever reason, once in a while partypoker gives me $50 for nothing. I have no idea why but they do. I've found that playing every single hand and chasing every single draw pays off BIG TIME here. A good example, playing in .25/.50 NL holem table I'm dealt 47 suited I raise BB to 2.00 three callers. Flop comes 5s 8s Ah I bet pot get two callers next card Ad I go all in get one caller who had A8 and river comes, you guessed it 6s I hit my straigh flush LOL. Of course the person with the boat was mad but hey that's poker right? About 10 hands later I hit another straight flush playing 27, Flop came 3,4,5diamonds turn 6s river 6d LOL. Two straight flushes in a matter of 10 hands ?
Partypoker gives me money and I play like a fool only to cash in big time. I have nothing to lose so why not. I bet I'm up a good $800 or so from playing rags.

I LOVE PARTYPOKER!

They dont give you something for nothing.....theres only one winner....and thats the person who OWNS THE SITE...dont take no damn rocket scientist too figure that out!

[good live player bad party poker player]

Hello to every one,I want to tell you about poker. I play at the casino in my town every week two to three times a week and always win, I mean I always win. Ive been playing for 6 years and consider myself a shark I play no limit and all the way to low limit. I play tight and fast and aggresive and I know when to let go of my hands. I never win online and I play no limit and limit and I never win. Why???? I can win like crazy in live games but as soon as I go online I lose. Dont change my play but I still lose. If you think a company wont lie ,, and cheat, steal from you. I just have this to say ENRON, World COM, Bre X. All these companies were based on North American soil. World Com and Enron lied to the public about how much they were making, while their executives got rid of stock. These companies were actually losing money, and were turnig around and telling investors they were making money. Bre X was a Company based out of Canada that sprinkled gold into their mining samples to make it look like they had hit a huge gold mine. Executives sold the stock when it was high. When it was discovered that the samples were tampered with the stock was worthless in two days. All three of these companies lied to investors, their have been trials,convitions and investigations into these three companies. So dont think that a company based out of Gibralter wont rip you off. Ohh one other thing

Ruth Parasol is the founder of partypoker but look at the delings she has been involved with below.


In 1994, Parasol went on to start her own phone sex and online adult entertainment businesses from which she sold-out in 1996.

Ruth Parasol and Seth Warshavsky invested millions of dollars in phone porn companies that were sued by North Carolina and Nevada authorities for alleged improper billing and collection practices that included threatening to seize a person's property.

Warshavsky was a protege of Seattle phone sex entrepreneur Ian Eisenberg, who was advised by attorney and phone sex business veteran Parasol. Eisenberg mailed phony "rebate" checks for $3.50 to millions of households. The fine print on the checks stated that by cashing the check, the recipient agreed to pay up to $29.95 for Internet service. Subsequently, the FTC filed charges, and Eisenberg and company were ordered to pay $17 million in restitution.[2]

Parasol was a fixture at adult entertainment industry gatherings until 1999.

Nuff said

[bad_dog76]

Tuff Fish is a mutha fukkin legend! LOL!
Go TONY!

[Hunter]

There isn't much to say about online poker, except that it is one of the biggest fraud schemes this world has ever seen. The smart people know this, and they shouldn't be afraid to speak up their mind. I'm not, I eat people that try to scare me for breakfast each day, with a little bacon on the side. I like bacon you know. The fact is that employees/houseplayers of online poker rooms roam this kind of forums just to scare the truth away, by any means. They talk about how it is not within their interest, that we are bad players which they profit off, that we are dumb and should learn the game. And while they are so busy trying to scare us, they don't even read the actual posts, or have arguments. They suffocate you with their distractions and swearing, so you start focusing on that. Its a psychological game, almost similar as the one casino's play with you. The fact is, we are in greater numbers, but we fail to unite because of those little rodents that use their mind games to split us up. Believe me, they are paid well to do this. The one thing that you will always have to remember is not to be afraid of them. Don't be intimidated by those people, because they don't really have compelling arguments, just distracting intimidation. We know that online poker is rigged, because we have seen it over and over and over again, like many hundreds of thousands of other people. The fact that those people don't let you have your opinion, means you're right. The madder they get, the more right you are. If you want to piss them off, don't respond to what they say. This is very important, because if you do they start to get in your head and draw others like them into the discussion, and that is something you will lose for certain. Say what you think and get the hell out of there. Oh yeah... Party Poker is fixed. Why is it within their interest to do that? Because there is a great difference between 500 million and 3 billion of rake. HA!

[pokerfan01]

I started playing on-line poker as my mates got into it and then i got hooked. I'm a winning player in touraments, cash, and SnGs - I play mainly on Pokerstars and FTP. Partypoker however is a different story, its the site I started on, as Im sure many do due to the heavy marketing they do. I'm here to tell you to not do this!!

The touraments are rubbish compared to Stars and FTP, too few and very very poor structures (the crazy stack tourney is the most idiotic). It demostrates strongly that this isn't a pure poker site like stars' or FTP, which focus on offering games that player want.

The software is very poor, it crashes a lot, and the e-mail support is terrible.

The bonus' are rubbish compared to the other sites - you have to play a sick amount of hands to see your bonus.

However the biggest problem is the random number generators, which seem massively different to other sites, Id be willing to put a lot of cash on this being true. I know Im a winning poker player because I use pokertraker, and what struck me as strange is my partypoker cash game stats.

(odds to get a specific pocket pair are 220/1)After 2,129 hands, I have never had AA, 1-KK, 1-QQ, 1-JJ, 0-TT, 2-99, 3-88, 7-77......etc etc, I should have, on average had each of these hands just less than 10 times!!

The site sucks in so many ways, if you have pokertracker, compare your stats from different sites, you will notice a massive difference, never play it, its not a poker site, like stars or FTP. Its a blackjack, casino and a sports betting site!!

If you love poker like me, play poker in the right place, use sites which change and adapt to what players want. Party is a static site, it never changes, when it drastically needs to!