ONLINE POKER - SITE - Party Poker

It used to be a good fair game (when I was a new player). After a few months I got the feeling there was something not quite right, but I put it down to just plain bad luck. After consistently (over weeks) winning ONLY every 15th hand..over and over, I took the hint..these guys just don't want me here anymore.I kept at it (god knows why) but it just got worse. Then on the day before the 4th July long weekend I was unbeatable - over and over - it was a awesome! Then the next day it didn't matter what I had - it was beaten over and over again.I've actually recorded the games as avi's so anyone can see what sort of crap is going on at this site.Do they cheat? YES It's so blatant and becoming increasingly blantant over the last few months (as they are loosing money from competing sites I suspect)You may not be aware of this, but they take screen shots of your desktop while your playing. I guess it's an anti-fraud measure, however, this is also against the law. I'm surprised that they are still operating, though I have been watching their ownership move from country to country.I will personally laugh my ass off when the owners are all finally busted and imprisoned. Then they'll know how it feels to be fucked over.

I started my online playing with PP and found at the start it was great, but have also noticed lately the extreme amounts of bad beats.. And I have started to believe all this hype about them jucing the hands to increase the rake, yes its possible to win but Im fed up with the amount of crud that occurs compared to the local casino or other online poker sites. I think there is a reason why PP makes so much money :\

Deffo a dodgy site. keep your $$$ away from party poker

Party poker is RIGGED I'm gonna SUE Them. the way the random cards are dealt is not random at all. Just like pple just said, u win the beginning and keep on losing no matter what. What's with the river cards. There is just so much river cards that make pple over and over and over non-stop. Serioulys IT SEEMS LIKE PPLE WHO KEEP ON RAISING USUALLY GET THE RIVER CARD AND WINS. SO IF U WANT TO WIN JUST KEEP ONG RAISING AND U WILL WIN ON THE RIVER. THATS HOW FUCKING PARTY POKER WORKS IT SUCKS. GO TO A CASINO GURANNTEE U WILL WIN THERE!!!!

Can't believe they have managed to fool so many people.Saw yet another of the crazy sights you can witness at party poker yesterday walked into the room (50 NL) most of the players had about the same stack (around 35 $ ).As soon as i entered i witnessed mass carnage.First off a few pre flop raises - nothing unusual there flop hits .... 2 players go all in rest fold one player wins with a straight the other had trips.Player who just lost his 35$ swiftly leaves.. Next hand no preflop raises looking pretty normal.. flop hits .... another player on around 35$ makes a small raise.Player who just won (on 70$) goes all in then the other player calls...This one player has made 70$ in 2 hands and is now on over 100$ but its not over yet.Comments in the chat are like "OMG" "unbelievable" .Next hand - same player hits flush.He called a 5$ bet with nothing and hit runner-runner.Theres now only 3 people in the game including me( the rest where probably scared off by his extrodinary luck).Im thinking ok hes had his bit of luck i know hes won a lot but his streak must stop now theres just no way .... how wrong i was.I get dealt KK im thinking this hand is in the bag with only 2 other players.They are fairly agressive so i put in a small pre flop raise ... this guy (now on over 100$) comes over the top.Im thinking after all that theres no way he can catch 4 big hands in a row he must be bluffing.I go all in .. big mistake he CALLs .Flop hits... J 3 7im getting ready to pat myself on the back for doubling up turn 5 river 2.I then watch my chips sail in his direction as he turns over his J 7oi then leave the table as this guy sits there alone having cleaned everyone out and made nearly 200$ from 35 in the space of a few hands.Could you see this thing happen anywhere else apart from the rediculously rigged party poker .p.s its a shame the rating system doesnt go down to 0 giving party poker a 1 is to much of a compliment

I couldn't agree more..... i've seen what you described above just 2 many times on here to be a coincidence. Are people really that naive to see that all these sites are fishy? And the answer is YES! Common sense people.

Did I seriously just read a post from above that states, "go to a casino, guaranteed you will win there"? I hope everyone takes that advice expecting to win... as a matter of fact that's what everyone thinks when they play at PP, which is why everyone who has complained on this site cries conspiracy... I have a suggestion, EVERYONE TRY THIS: deal out ten hands of hold 'em face up and deal the community cards... then tell me how often the best starting hand wins, I have seen about a 20% win rate for dominating starting hands. For some reason people think that their kings or aces must hold up unless there is fraud. And for those that complain about being on a table with a lucky winner (whom they call a shill / bot), why don't you switch tables until you are fairly sure everyone is playing the cards they are dealt. I have played plenty of legit tables at PP... when something seems funny I leave the table and go to another. It's just like in a casino, you have to pick your tables wisely. Take careful notes on all suspect players and don't play with them in the future, it's that simple. PP allows all players to pick their own spots, take endless notes on any player, and hit and run from table to table if they so choose... those that don't take advantage of these features deserve to lose... IF YOU THINK A PLAYER IS A BOT, LEAVE THE TABLE YOU MORONS!!!!! TAKE CAREFUL NOTES YOU ILLITERATE LOSERS!!!!! IF YOU CAN'T HANDLE BAD BEATS, DON'T PLAY POKER!!!!

I just read the last post and had to laugh, move from table to table, yeah, that really works well, go from 1 table with 3-4 house plants, to another with 3-4 house plants, makes a lot of sense. I don't call the loses on PP bad beats anymore, because they are really more of a joke.A recent example, had pp 10's flop come 2 5 10, sitting pretty, just 2 players on a 2/4 tables, I bet, get called then raised, so I reraise, and get called by 2, one of the 2 doesn't hve much money left, and he raised me. I know I have them both totally beat, the board is rainbow, neither are on a blind. So, the turn is an 8, no help to them to beat my 3 10's, I bet, same thing called, reraised, I raise again, get called. Now, the drum roll, the MAGICAL river card, its a 9, and low and behold, what did player 2 have, a JQ off, now, was this bad play, indeed, first off, he probably should not have called the preflop raise, no less the raises on the flop, and turn, but sure enough he stays in to the river and catches a gut shot Str, what are the chances, slim, very slim, was this a bad player getting lucky ? You would think so, but I didn't see him play any hands the same way, except for that hand, he wasn't chasing hands before or after this. Next day, same thing, pocket 10's flop is almost the same 8 3 10, the turn a 2, and the river, drumroll Q, and to my surprise, player 2 had j9 off, and the other fellow has pp A's, More bad play ? you decide, or was this a good player, it was according to the defenders of the site. And, according to them, I am the bad player, I should have known to fold after flopping trip 10's each time. What was I thinking they would hold up, when the odds of losing were exremely high. The same table, I lost with kk, AA, qq, aks ak off, all within 5 minutes. I had a player, tell me my exact stats, right to the tee, so I know he is using some sort of a program, and PP never did anything about it, and no matter what he went in with, it hit the board big time. Its really easy to spot the shills/house players, they never seem to get rivered over and over, if they are holding the slick, you can count on them hitting the flop, and no one hitting anything to beat them. And, if you make a comment about something not being right, the 3-4 players, you think are shills, defend this site with their lives, try it sometime. The thing I find the strangest is, I've gambled all my life, and there are always a lot of people complaining at the tables, no matter what game it is, but you don't see very many poeple complaining on this site, unless, you go into one of the free torny's they bought in with their points, then you will here the horror stories. I don't care what you have in your hand, when they trigger you to lose, you will not win a hand, and its not bad beats, its not bad players getting lucky, its predetermined hands, they are making a ton of money on the rake, but let me tell you, the rake money is peanuts, compared to the money they are making, with house players and rigging the hands. Can this be proven, of course not, because nobody is looking over their shoulders, period, end of story.

I actually talked to one of these foreigners on the phone today from their site. I told him I have over 2,000 names on my website ready to press the issue with the Better Business Bureau so they would be investigated on how their site was set up. He seemed to be quite threatened by that and constantly said our cards are randomly generated. I told him I've played on a dozen other sites and kept track of all stats from each site hand by hand. Example : on Ultimate bet we'll take K9os agaist KK. On UB KK wins 94% of the time, where as on PP KK wins 67% of the time. That's quite a difference. On Full Tilt Poker AA vs 99. AA wins around 88% of the time while on PP AA wins about 65% of the time? Not to mention how many times I've seen at least 3 wired pairs on PP. That'll happen one out of every say 20 hands on that site or 5% of the hands played. That number isn't even close on any other sites or any casino. The funny thing was I asked him about giving people money who complained about the site. He said they give people money who complain about the constant bad beats. Can you say BRIBE! If this isn't the shadiest internet poker site on the web today I don't know what is.

In a tournament this morning i got burned twice. Once i had the most chips out of the 5 people in the hand had KK guy to my left raised all in two callers before me I go all in get called hands 88, 10,10 KK AA flop 827 turn 2 river 7. LOL 4 pocket pairs? Two hands later 5 players to the flop after raising and re raising. Cards 77, 99, JJ QQ AA. 5 Pocket pairs? Are you kidding me? oh of course the 7's won when flop came 792 turn J river 7 LOL. I wanted throw my computer out the window. This is bullshit! i've never seen 5 pocket pairs in one hand. it's a crock. Never matters how you play or how you bet or what your cards are on party poker it's always a coin flip. You feelin lucky?

AH another one to add today. I have AK I'm put all in pre flop I call guy has JK. Flop AJ10 turn J river 4. OF COURSE! Party Poker is the most ridiculous fucking site I've ever seen.

Hey Eat S*** PP... why are you still playing then? And another thing, just because you had A-K does not guarantee you a win.... Why do people think they deserve to win with every good hand, and then cry conspiracy when they lose? Poker is gambling you retards... Why does everyone think that just because they read a few books and watch poker on tv that they can dominate all the tables... Ever since this game has been put on tv, there has been a serious misunderstanding of how to play the game... and this forum here shows the beginnings of that understanding, there are huge swings in real poker both online or offline and everyone complaining here is starting to understand this... poker is not for any of the people in here who have complained... Stop playing or stop complaining. There is no conspiracy, shills are legal, and bad players often get paid off for bad play, deal with it!

You Just Don't Get Bad Beaten 10 Times In A Row After Having A Good Roll At A Casino. I 've Been Beaten By Quads 5 Times. It Just Doesn't Happen In At A Casino. So Of Course The Site Is Rigged To Keep The Newbies Coming In. If The Cards Dealt Were Not Rigged Only Tight Players Would Win And Play There Which Means No Money For Party-poker. Loose Play Is Rewarded At The Site Because It Brings Bigger Pots Which Means Pp Makes More Money. Frankly All The Other Sites Are The Same. So I'm Done With Them All.

Listen Chunk you fat bastard. Nobody is saying the best hand has to win EVERY time you moron. You're a str8 up asshole if you think that online poker doesn't reward loose players with unreal beats more often than it should. I'm sure you're on of the chasers on line that can't win shit at a casino because you don't catch that str8 or flush 80% of the time on the river or turn like you do online. I've taken some awful beats at casino's, everybody has, but not nearly as often as I have online. So why don't you stick it up your fat ass and get off my case Tubby!

Answer me this EatShit... why are so many WSOP qualifiers strictly online players... do you really think all these professional online players would play for thousands of dollars if they thought it was rigged... I've never heard a professional complain about online poker fraud, only amateurs and beginners... Why you ask? Because pros don't play low limits (25NL or 50NL), only beginners play those limits and those people chase their hands... when they catch it the pro sits back and says, "that's poker".... people like you say, "fraud, conspiracy, illuminati!".... it's actually quite funny from my perspective.... hopefully you paranoid amateurs will simply stop playing on the online sites and leave it for people who understand the game.... or you can keep crying and increase my bankroll so I can stop playing lower limits with beginners like yourself...

Also, I DO chase hands when the pot odds are correct for calling... so it's not my fault when I catch it... it's my opponents fault for giving me the correct odds to call... So please EatShit, make another deposit, I'd love to be your bad beat...

LMAO dude I'll play you any time any place. Meet me on Ultimate Bet. We'll go heads up at a $200 table. We'll see who's bankroll increases. I'm sure I understand the game more than you fatty. When pot odds call for it of course you chase dip shit i never stated otherwise. When someone goes all in pre flop with 9 10 and goes up against JJ. 9 10 shouldn't win the 40% it does online. So I'll be waiting at the table for you. You can find me at Ultimate Bet under the name I8A4RE22. You have the sack? I seriously doubt you do. I'll be waiting!

One other thing Fatty. What professional plays at Party Poker?????????????????? NONE! I wonder why dumb ass. Ultimate Bet,Full Tilt, Shit even Poker Stars have professionals on them. Party Poker??? NOPE NOT A SINGLE ONE!

I've quit playing at party poker.com!!!!Thanks for all the input guys!It has helped my decesion!The way I figure it is:Sure you're gonna get bad beats...But keep in mind if you get a bad beat... some one else is getting LUCKY!!!Why should I sit there getting bad beat after bad beat after bad beat and some one else is getting lucky, getting lucky, getting lucky??Why should I?I shouldn't, you're right!That's why I have taken your advice and I have quit playing on party poker.comI feel happy!!!!!EVERYBODY....Quit playing there...Wise up...If you wanna play No limit...Play in a live game and keep your eyes on the dealer...Don't trust some guy in India or at the Rock of Gibralter to do the shuffling!!!!QUIT PLAYING AT PARTYPOKER.COM!!!!YOU'LL BE THANKFUL YA DID!!

I figured as much fatty. Mike Sexton is an announcer LOL. He doesn't play on there. I knew you didn't have the sack to play me heads up at a more legitimate site. Simply because you WON'T catch all the shit you chase on Ub like you do at PP. Party Poker is 80% luck 20% skill. I don't really give a shit what you say. 70% of the reviews of this site are negative. I'm not the only one. The reason I play there is because I have a shit load of points. I only play in the freeroll tourney's until all my points are gone. Read an above post Party Poker Blows. He must've done some stats. He says AA wins about 65% of the time on Party Poker. I think he's being generous. Fact is people that complain about this site are GOOD players that are sick of being sucked out on the river by lousy players that make bad bets and bad calls and get lucky. When someone puts you all in pre flop and you have AA you're going to call. When they turn over K9 and flop comes J 10 Q or K K J, perhaps 9, 7, 8, turn J river K. It's going to piss people off. Not because they took a bad beat but because it CONSTANTLY happens at Party Poker. One last thing, don't tell me that I don't have a clue on how to play the game when you don't have the balls to play me straight up. You've never seen me play. I guess the 70-80% of the people saying Party Poker is junk don't know how to play either right?

I've been reading these posts here. Now I'm not getting mad or complaining about anything. I justb happen to agree with most of the reviewers here. I actually left this site about $50 ahead of course I was up around $300 at one time. I've seen all the beats people talk about. I've had them work for and against me but it seems it happens every hand, especially in OMaha. If you have the nut straight or flush on the turn, you're guaranteed the river will pair the board giving someone a boat or better yet quads. On other sites you don't need the nuts to win all the time on Party Poker you do. To the guy above; how can you tell someone they don't know how to play unless you've seen him/her play. That goes for anyone. Everyone has an opinion and just because they don't agree with you doesn't mean they don't know how to play. Get over yourself. For people looking for a quality site I suggest Paradise Poker or Full Tilt.

I want to know why every post for every other site is claiming the same fraud.... read the posts for UB, they say the same thing about that site... PokerStars, same thing.... Everyone seems to have their favorite site and they think the other sites are fraudulent... Seems that either everyone is cheating or no one is cheating, and given Occam's razor I believe the latter. Perhaps the problem is the RNG, any computer generated RNG is pseudo-random, a computer cannot truly be random... However, I see the same bad beats in home games when people call to the river... people play low stakes online poker as if it's a home game, the more amateurs the more bad beats you get... seems difficult to win consistently at low stakes on any site. And I didn't mean to get your panties in a bunch EATSHITPP, and I would play you online if I had the dough, unfortunately I do not... Sure, you're better at poker than me... I hope that makes you feel better... but that doesn't change my opinion that most or all of the poker sites are completely legit... everyone has the same complaints about every site, just read the posts of every site and you'll see. Just because Mike Sexton is 'only a spokesperson' does not mean he isn't putting his reputation on the line as a representative, I don't think he would do that if there were any doubt as to the legitamcy of PP...

I love how people try to justify that a site is legit by saying, "Well the pros play there". First of all there is no such thing as a pro anymore. There are a FEW exceptions, but generally those days are well over thanks to the internet. Anyone who endorses a site is basically an average dickhead who had a lot of money thrown in his face by the website to endorse their product. Duh. If someone threw hundreds of thousands or even millions of dollars in your face, would you take the money? Of course you would. Now getting back to the "pros". What really is considered a pro? Well, after watching the world series of poker for the past couple of years i have a conclusion on what a pro is. A pro is basically a rich shithead who has a lot of money and wants to enter the world series of poker and be a "pro" (i.e. Ben Affleck.) I mean lets face it, there are some great players that will never see the wsop because of a lack of bankroll. Another type of "pro" is the someone who knows absolutely nothing about the game of poker, spends $40 on a satellite tournament, wins a seat at wsop, gets lucky the WHOLE entire tournament, and wins the whole thing (i.e. Chris Moneymaker). Now to fully understand exactly how little he knows about the game, buy his video, or better yet burn it off the internet. Why give the stupid lucky shithead more money, right?

I called customer service after taking my 5th bad beat in a row in a tournament. First one pre flop all in KK vs K7, 2) AJ vs J10 (after flop JAK turn 8 river Queen) 3) 66 vs 89 (after flop 356 turn A river 7) 4) Pre flop all in 88 vs A2 (I could've lived with this one if it wasn't my 4th bad beat in a row after going all in) finally the one that knocked me out and the most ridiculous of all it still makes me laugh, I had 99 of in big blind flop 9 9 J two clubs I go all in get called guy has KQ of clubs turn 4 river ao of CLUBS! That pissed me off so I called up just to see how they're RNG worked and how they could tell me it's honest with hands like that constantly happening on a regular basis. After givig me the run around for about 5 minutes the guy just hung up on me. What an ASSHOLE! You can play on any other site and it will be better than this piece of shit. I just asked for a simple expanation and all they tell me is bad beats happen. I asked the last 5 times someone went all in against me I took a bad beat? It shouldn't happen 5 times in a row. 2 out of 5 is pushing it. I'll NEVER put money into this site again. A true scam artist is party poker. Constant full houses, straights, flushes, quads. You will almost never see top pair walk in party poker. 90% of their hands have a straight or flush draw not to mention the ridiculous amount of times the board is paired (especially in Omaha) Try ANY other site besides this one.

Does the world live in a bubble or something? After playing at a lot of these sites i have come to a conclusion....They are all set up and fixed to make more money. DUHHHHH!! Are You people that stupid? I love how one person said, "Party Poker and UB are already big sites. None of these online poker sites would put their reputation in jeapordy". That was the funniest. Hey, one word....ENRON!!! Yes they may be big companies with good reputations, but GREED always wins in the end. They prey on stupid shits like you people who say, "Oh they're all legit". WAKE UP.

It's frightening to read how many people say things such as "why wouldn't they do it if they can get away with it"... I can think of a million reasons why a big business would want to be legit (more $ in the longrun, as opposed to criminal charges in the short term).... sure there might be a few bad apples in any big business, but all it takes is one whistle blower. So then, where is that one person with proof of fraud who might be a real honest person? It seems that most people are simply dishonest, including the people posting on here... some of these posts sound like they are directly from fraudulent thieves, half of the people complaining are stating that they would cheat and that's why they assume others are cheating. (why wouldn't they cheat?) Cheaters and thieves always think everyone around them is like them. I also have to wonder, if I wanted to create a fraudulent poker site to make money, how would I do it... well for one, I wouldn't make it as obvious as the fraud that people claim is occurring... and what exactly are people saying? That PP pays shills to fire up the game? *happens in a casino* Or is it that PP has payed players who can see all the cards? *that wouldn't explain why a player would call an all-in with K-7 against K-K* Or is it that PP pays players who know what cards are going to come up on the board? *highly unlikely as a hacker could access the same info if it is available to someone* Or is it that PP creates action flops for a higher rake? *rarely necessary as the rakes are capped and usually are for most hands* ... No one seems to know exactly what is wrong, just that 'something' is wrong.... All of these allegations cannot be true simultaneously... therefore, something is rotten in the accusations themselves. So if I wanted to make a fraudulent poker site, I would quickly realize there is no reason to do so. Just create the software and let it run itself. Online gaming sites make about 25% profit vs. B&M casinos 8%. Real casinos have more of a reason to cheat than online casinos if you think like that. I also think that with all the 'pro' players out there with utmost respect for the game of poker, someone by now would have uncovered fraud if it existed and come clean to the public... If you don't think so, perhaps you are the dishonest one, because if you were behind anything fraudulent you would obviously not be the whistleblower... but there are still honest people out there. Until someone in the mainstream uncovers the supposed fraud, I will continue to play online poker, for I have never seen anything so suspect as to cry fire in a crowded theater... I accept the bad beats and wait for the nuts (and the nuts for me is not a hand that can still lose on the river when I have the goods after the turn) Go ahead and call me naive, but I win online so I have no reason to complain... I've simply adjusted my play to catch the myriad of fish online

There's a difference between being smart & having common sense and being a thief. Last post makes no sense. I'm not a thief nor do i think like one. I just have a functioning brain. Also, you shouldn't have to adjust your play to accomodate the online cheating, and "fish". That kinda proves something is fishy by simply stating that. In real life i adjust nothing, i play how i play and win a lot.

If you know anything about poker you should know that your play is always adjusted based on who is at the table, that is why a good strategy in casinos is to pick your table carefully.... same goes for online play... the more you know about certain players the more you may need to adjust your play based on what you think they might be doing... and I never said in the previous post that I accomodate my play for online cheaters, because if they are out there I have never been taken by them or have just been lucky to avoid them...I only accomodate for certain fish and take careful notes on anyone I play...

The most appealing thing about a conspiracy is that it cannot be disproved... introductory logic teaches that one cannot prove that something does not exist, so people will always cry fraud and cheater and they don't need proof... perhaps because there is no proof

I wasn't calling anyone specific a thief, I'm simply wondering why people would say, "why wouldn't they cheat if they could get away with it?" You might as well assume that someone who makes that statement renders their own personality transparent... I wouldn't ask a question like that because I can immediately think of reasons why someone would not cheat, especially a multi-million (or billion) dollar business.