ONLINE POKER - SITE - UltimateBet

It is by far the best. I hate Party Poker as I believe there is cheating in this. UB does not have this. It has the BEST freeroll tournamnt structure with plenty of freerolls daily. I have gotten UB points and used them to gamble with and gained enough to play in real money tournaments. For real money tournaments the games are more realistic. The worst part of this site is that it does have some breakdowns occassionally but that has been less and less as the year has gone on. They are great with refunds though. They rock.

UB has some good points. There are many games going and the Mini-View is particularly useful for multitabling. However, it should be noted that while you can get some nice bonus dollar incentives like the refer-a-friend, you cannot unlock those bonuses by playing tournaments, only ring games. This doesn't make much sense since you pay 10% juice on the former. It's odd that they promote themselves with famous tournament players like Phil Hellmuth but then stiff tournament customers. Their support staff tend to flatly ignore questions on the subject. Their software also has many limitations. There are no shortcut keys for checking, raising, and folding. The time until the next blind increase is not shown in a convenient display. You can't view your notes on each player without tediously right-clicking each one and hitting Notes (it would be much easier with a simple mouse-over). Overall, UB is a pretty good site, but their incentives are much less valuable than they appear.

UB is awful, i would never play there again. The cards that come are unrealistic on a consistant basis. Try losing in 5 games at the same time with the same hand...kk...always against aa. It was crazy, you can garentuee if you have KK or QQ someone has AA. The cards are completely unrealistic. The interface is decent, and i do like the way you could minimise the screen, but to many fixed deals aimed at getting a higher rake on the open table, and the tournaments just end in bad beats. Plus the site goes down on a consistant basis, nething over 10,000 people and the site crashes....a poor site please don't waste ur money

I agree with pumpino69. This is yet another shady poker site. They'll deal you good cards, and then suck you dry with bad beats. If you're a winner at AC/Vegas, you'll lose here over time.

Totally disagree with the pumps. UB is by far the best site that I have played on. You have to expect beats in this game. The software is great and easy to use. Their response in processing payments is great. I play many, many hours each week on UB and have not experienced any time when the site has gone down. If you are, in fact, a winner in AC/Vegas, you will be a bigger winner here.

UB is but far the best site in my opinion. Graphics are simple and not as busy. They offer great freerolls and a variety of games. They have been having server problems the last few days, which has been annoying, but after going back and playing at the other poker sites I have realized again why I left them for UB to begin with. Hopefully UB will be back up and running fully soon. I am sure many diehard UB players are going through withdrawals!

Just as an experiment, I went all in my first hand on 5 Stt with Jack 8 suited.

One caller AK, I flopped a flush. Duh. Move chips first, you're good. Call, and your dead, even IF you are percentage fav.

Flopped straight later on, same seat that raised my BB entire tourney, hit river flush, no money. Now after 140 crap hands folded, I finally flop a straight, they river magic again.

Next tourney, ramped up my play. Down to 4 at bubble. I'm chip leader on small blind.
Flop flush draw, turn hit for Kflush. River gives same exact seat as last tournament had been maniac on his bb and rightly so, considering how many QQ, KK, AA he had all tourney, went all in at river. Why? He had aces. 666 on board.

Yeah, right. Two tourneys against total dipshits with golden hands 'at just the right moment'. The eventual money winners of course. Catch a whiff then they slam the door shut at "just the right moment".

How do they key things so well to give you beats on the best hand you've had ALL TOURNEY?

After dominated a 6 seat stt for the better part of an hour, it got down to final 2. Me, versus the guy that couldn't not get cards at any time. I got so sick of the 59, then 49, then 38, then 29, then Q2, then K2, it was totally ridiculous. Heck I figured he couldnt hit the flop every time, so a nice 38 preflop raise was about the best I could do.

I told the guy that even though I had chip lead, he would win, cause thats UB. You KNOW if you will win.

And yes, I know how to fold. I folded at least 15 blinds in a row what I didnt bluff. It was unbelievable the crap. Then the flops started akk aak kka aak it was ridiculous.

Final hand, I limped with my DB, he with slick. Flop 2xK Turn 10, all in, river Ace. I wasn't even mildly surprised. Ub has done that now on EVERY stt where I was a whiff of 1st. Taken cards away from me its so obvious.

2 rounds solid of total crap and aka flops smells like predetermined seat winner not poker.

Oh, and to the big SH talker on UB who won the last one before this one? Don't make it so obvious next time when you are berating the table, AND getting so many good cards, good flops, good turns, and good rivers, THEN, steering people to your site on "how to play poker", which of course is loaded with affiliate ads.

UB=total scam, bet on THAT and you wont lose. Too many questionable people on there.

Pal you're full of it. I love all these fools that talk about how much they won on line. LMAO Thanks for the laughs BUB!

[Locohombre]

This site beats the crap out of Party Poker!

[CubsFanSean]

While I agree this site has good games, there support makes this all worth nothing. They never will refund money even if the site messes up. They don't care about their customers at all. They do not respond in a timely manner especially with live play issues and they are absolutely unwilling to admit that their site can have a glitch every once in a while. So, while I hate having to leave a site with such potential, their support is just absolutely 100 percent atrocious and worthless. People like Derek and others who work there should learn how to read emails and actually answer them instead of giving sorry but our records show blah blah blah.

CUBSFANSEAN

[Vicfats]

I will agree their customer support is a joke. The best customer support is Doyle's Room even though their games kind of suck due to lack of traffic and willingness to put any money into the game

[bad_dog76]

Great Tourney's here. Many freerolls, one thing I noticed with this site, however was the amazing amount of times the big stack swallows the small stack in a tournament no matter what the hands are. I had the big stack at the table 15K one player went all in pre flop for his last 2720 with KK I called with QK. Flop came K 10 J turn A river 9. So I took the hand. Thought maybe I was lucky until the next time I called with J9 vs AA and flop came 9 J 9 turn K river 4. Finally the hand that won it for me was 8 10 vs A 10 when I hit my straight on the river.
I've lost hands the same way in tournies. Just kind of weird. Am I the only one who sees the big advantage the big stacks have?

If you're wondering if the sites use bots, sit down on a play money heads up cash game. Fold and show every hand and take the maximum amount of time. Pretty obvious a normal person would get bored and leave. But it will go on for hours without a word. Sometimes after a long time, the employees are signaled something is wrong and they start talking asking what you're doing. It's pretty amusing.....check it out. Good Luck, you'll need it on here.

[HPG ADMIN]

Correct me if i am wrong but i thought ultimatebet admitted using bots on its play money games.

[AceofSpader]

So far UB and pokerstars are the only sites that I use.

Best ones that are out there by far.

Worst are partypoker and pacific poker

AoS

[AceofSpader]

Hey, ADMIN, you should make it where guests cant post unless they register so it would clean up these boards.

I mean, how many guests are here compared to members?

Since youre the forum god, use your powers for good sometime! lol

AoS

[twoking10]

My previous post was all about the bad beats etc. on UB. Honestly , as far as money and cash out problems, I haven't had much problem with that. I cash out every week on Saturday from $150-$250 and get my check the following Friday.

[joshil3]

I agree that UB is rigged to create more action at the tables. I've at least 4 times more bad beats there than anywhere else. My last 2 10-seat SnG's, I saw 3 and 5 quads, the last of which each knocked out my full house.

I was doing quite well when I first signed up, so I added on to my account. Well the money didn't show up for 3 days, although they said it would take 2 hours, and I finally got a response after 3 emails. After complaining to them and threatening to go to another site in the last email, I've had nothing but bad beats when I get a descent hand, and otherwise, I'm getting cards like 46o and 26o at least 70% of the time, it's rediculous.

Don't even consider going to this site, unless you can figure out how the hand is rigged. Keep calling to the river if you're the underdog.

[Ruth4]

My experience of ub and some other sites. Every time I've made a withdrawal, it is followed by bad cards and ridiculous,improbable suckouts. I must lose 80% of the time as a favorite/50/50 after withdrawing $, until I've lost a substantial amount of my withdrawal. I'm not playing any different either. There is a pattern on cash games where when I build some cash, it is followed by a great hand(that is impossible to fold(aa preflop or set on flop) that is beaten on river by huge underdog(runner runner flushes 2 outs etc). I've played live for 3 years and online for 3, and I know there are 3 times more hands online, but there are also 10 times more bizarre hands online as well. I've also been able to predict after going all in, when I am going to get sucked out or lose a 50/50 with accuracy, as if I'm picking up on the pattern. My theory is that ub(and other sites) make a lot more $ by spreading wins around(which keeps people winning and stops them from trying other sites or not playing. Keep all in the cash games as well with easily rigged software,(not to mention, on any table there can be 2+ working together with a cell phone) and they make more $. Throw in some bots or software people on some seats and altogether, they are making a ton more. Most say, "Well they make so much already" Sure didn't Michael Milken and the likes too? Just because they make millions already, doesn't mean they wont be happy making a lot more immorally. No one wants to question wether this is true or not. They react angrily. I guess because it destroys their dreams of making it big. What regulatory service is really watching anyway? I've never heard of even an investigation taking place on any of the hundreds of sites online. I'm not a bitter, sore loser, just someone that is open to the idea that it could be rigged. I'm careful and don't trust enough to invest a substantial stack. Keep track and be open as well is my advice, before you start putting up a lot of real $ online.

[CubsFanSean]

We all feel this way sometime but is it really that way or are you catching a bad run. I mean seriously, 50/50 keep track you'll win 50/50 and I wont' even ask why you are coin flipping your money in a cash game. I have cashed out about 3 to 4 K on there and I steadily build and cash out again. . .I'm not saying I'm great, I have bad swings and low swings but in the long run I end out up.

The best way to think of this is this--you give UB their money in rake/tournament buy in entry fees etc. . what to do they gain by setting the sight up to **** you. . .. they gain nothing--they want you to keep spending the money. . .

So, just keep grinding it out. . that's my advice.

[HPG ADMIN]

That is a good point about coin flipping in cash games. Coinflips have a 0 EV so they have no purpose in a cash game - they increase risk while not increasing profits.

[fasteddy18788]

I have over $400.00 in a cash account with Ultimate Bet. It is gone. I have written to customer service more than a dozen times. I have received no response at all. Has anyone else had this proplem? How can it be resolved? Where are the corporate headquarters located? What is the name of the parent corporation? I would like to contact them directly.

[HDFXDLI]

If you reload UB to yur computor read the part about excepting there agreement yu have to check it to continue loading the program the info is all in there make sure to read to the very bottom of it there is more info there hope this helps.

fasteddy18788
May 28, 2007
I have over $400.00 in a cash account with Ultimate Bet. It is gone. I have written to customer service more than a dozen times. I have received no response at all. Has anyone else had this proplem? How can it be resolved? Where are the corporate headquarters located? What is the name of the parent corporation? I would like to contact them directly.

[bigdreams101]

I am not trying to spam this:

[url]http://www.kahnawake.com/gamingcommission/[/url]

This is the gaming commission UltimateBet.com is regulated by.

[headstains]

i was just wondering if anyone has ever cashed out in the form of a check through ultimate bet. They say it takes 2-6 weeks to recieve your check but that is odd to me since i have gotten checks from at least 3 other sites, and it never takes more than 1-2 weeks to get it. I was just wondering how long it actually takes to recieve the check once it is processed.

[common terry]

how does this guy make all these calls unless he knows..? they make it hard to get hand histories at ub or i would show u the classic made 700 in may, lost 200 in june, (with great hands). they wont let me win there anymore. ive seen it on every site.

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Hand #42331768-60193 at Coleraine (No Limit Hold'em)
Started at 30/Jun/07 17:57:21

NTT is at seat 0 with $91.90 (sitting out).
Blackened999 is at seat 1 with $5.80.
terry cloth is at seat 2 with $9.50.
Pelzmeister is at seat 3 with $49.30.
abalenger is at seat 4 with $38.95.
LadyD OOB is at seat 5 with $124.50.
wert1950 is at seat 6 with $54.45 (sitting out).
peachez44 is at seat 7 with $28.75.
botrau is at seat 8 with $21.75.
MrLuckbox2U is at seat 9 with $45.85.
The button is at seat 8.

MrLuckbox2U posts the small blind of $.25.
Blackened999 posts the big blind of $.50.

Blackened999: -- --
terry cloth: Tc Kc
Pelzmeister: -- --
abalenger: -- --
LadyD OOB: -- --
peachez44: -- --
botrau: -- --
MrLuckbox2U: -- --

Pre-flop:

terry cloth raises to $1. Pelzmeister folds.
abalenger folds. LadyD OOB folds. peachez44 folds.
botrau calls. MrLuckbox2U calls. Blackened999
folds.

Flop (board: 5d 3d Td):

MrLuckbox2U checks. terry cloth bets $3.50. botrau
calls. MrLuckbox2U folds.

Turn (board: 5d 3d Td 2s):

terry cloth goes all-in for $5. botrau calls.

River (board: 5d 3d Td 2s Qd):

(no action in this round)




Showdown:

terry cloth shows Tc Kc.
terry cloth has Tc Kc 5d Td Qd: a pair of tens.
botrau shows Js 9d.
botrau has 9d 5d 3d Td Qd: flush, queen high.


Hand #42331768-60193 Summary:

$1 is raked from a pot of $20.50.
botrau wins $19.50 with flush, queen high.

[lloydy84]

Here is my say on UB.

First of all I have made nearly 4 times my deposit on ub. I have played on party poker, absolute poker, titan and pacific.

UB is my second favourite behind pacific poker. there are far fewer bad beats than the rest of these sites. After nearly 450'000 hands, here is what I have to say.

1) K,K v A,A happens far too often. you guys that said this are correct. Using my poker tracker stats, whenever I have had K,K I have been up against A,A 1 out of every 9 times.

2)K,K, believe it or not, is a losing hand for me. Unbelievable I know. i have considered folding pre flop but I take others advice and play as i should. Against any ace, on UB it is a race, 50/50 not the 2-1 it should be. Against suited connecters, it is maybe 60-40 in kings favour.

3) Of course UB encourages betting. The higher the bets, the bigger the rake, the higher the profits. Countless times i have predicted the very card that will come on the river. If I have 2 pair/set, and I am pretty sure my opponant is drawing to a flush, I am almost certain I will hit my full house, as well as him hitting his flush. Or visa versa. Of course it is an all in situation, and higher rake/profits for UB.

4) apart from these facts, Ub is quite good.

[smack77]

As lloydy84 says. KK vs. AA happens about 1 out of 10 times. Incredible considering the odds are more then 1 in over 20,000. Unlike Lloydy84, I constantly get bad beat. In over 50% of tournaments I am crippled or eliminated by 9 to one odds. And the majority of the time it's on or near the bubble.

Examples... AA vs. AK... backdoor flushes... runner-runners.... horrible donk calls with 4 to 10% chance of winning are constantly paid out. I really like their interface... but they use robot props in cash games. It's an f'n scam. I wish I would have listened to my elders instead of these retards who say...

They make enough money so why would they risk cheating.... Ummm... how many businesses are completely legit? Not evading the law on taxes or cooking their books. This is poker, a cheating mans sport.. ran by people who want to make quick cash. I'm sure there are some completely legit online poker sites out, but this sure isn't one of them.

I'm not some losing player donk. I'm a player that knows he's been cheated at times and am f'n pissed about it.