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Old 08-14-04, 07:00 PM
Gabe
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Ok, about the moneymaker vs. ivey hand. I think it was a poor move move to call 70,000 dollar value bet bet into a 200,000 dollar pot for several reasons. Firstly the pot odds don't warrant it, he gets 5-1 on his money as a 10-1 dog. Secondly, theres no way he can bluff at the pot because it's pretty obvious moneymaker has the queen. In that hand, Lester had 10 10 and was smart enough to get out after the flop, because it was obvious to him that moneymaker had the Q. (Preflop Iver was a HUGE underdog to win) Then on ther turn, moneymaker bets 140,000 and gets raised all in. He has 7 outs (3 aces, 3 sixes, and one queen) He's getting the same pot odds that Ivey got for the bet on the flop, and his chances of hitting the river were just as good as ivey hitting the two outer. So why the hell does everyone say what a horrible beat it was for Ivey... he was behind the whole hand except for 1 miracle card, and one lucky card deserves another
 

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