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I've played in many of their freerolls. In my opinion it seems bogus.I don't think I would ever deposit real money there.
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#2
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UB is good. Ive won plenty over a year now so quit moaning. If u lose alot give it up your crap simple as that
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I like it. I wish it would let you start your own public or private tables though. Then I could play for money with just my friends.Also, they should have higher buy in "sit-and-go" tournaments on their free tables (currently only 100 play chips needed). It is next to impossible to sit at a free "sit-and-go" table. You have to be fast. Some of us have millions of chips and would like the option of a 100,000 or 200,000 buy in play chip "sit-and-go" table.Better yet. Let us create our own tables, set the buy-in, set the limit, chose the table game type and UB can take the rake for hosting it. As for "fixed deals" you guys have to remember that you are playing so many more hands than you would at AC/Vegas. Hundreds more. The deal is faster, the shuffel is faster and you can play many tables at once. It is normal to see many more "notable" hands than you would in vegas. Also, you remember bad beats and forget the hundreds of "normal" hands.It would be interesting to see an independant statistical analysis of the cards though. It would be a very simple thing to do.Think about how much money they make a day on rakes. Why would they risk that cash cow on padded hands? They have a good reputation now. Why would that risk it?S-F
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I have played many sites and always come back to UB for the overall quality of the site, the level of competition and most of all, because I consistently win. Yes I get bad beats but not nearly as many as I do on other sites, ESPECIALLY PACIFIC POKER. If I were to suspect ANY site of rigging game outcomes it would be them. Whoever said they are honest hasn't played there long. Very unrealistic numbers of flushes and straights that contribute to many of the bad beats. I had 4 in a row that were simply and absolutely unbelievable. One of the things that hasn't been mentioned here is that UB, like Full Tilt and Poker Stars have world class players endorsing and playing on the site. You want to sit down with Phil Helmuth or Annie Duke or Antonio Esfandiari and see how you match up, you can do it on UB. My point is, I doubt these players are going to lend there names (and reputations) to a site that is ripping people off. You think Annie Duke is a crook? She could be a dupe too and it doesn't mean shady things aren't happening but it makes me much less suspicious of UB and Full Tilt than sites like Pacific Poker who have no celebrity endorsements. Bottom line, you play at your own risk and until there is some entity overseeing the honest operation of online gaming sites (like the Nevada Gaming Commission oversees Las Vegas operators) it is going to be the wild west out there. I don't truly trust any of them but so far UB has been the best of the bunch and the proof is in the bankroll. I make money there nearly every day.
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I couldn't agree more with the last post. After playing at numerous sites I have found only 2 that (in my opinion) there isn't something fishy going on within the site. UltimateBet and Pokerstars seem to be the best. I chose UltimateBet simply because of the lower amount you can withdrawl. I never complain when I lose or take bad beats because it is a natural part of the game, however, the frequency that I see bad beats on some of these other sites is just laugh out loud funny. CONSTANT AA vs. KK, full boat beat by a higher full boat, flop a set only to be beat by a flush caught on the river (All while i was betting hard on the turn and river, mind you). Now the frequency that these occurences happen on UB or Pokerstars is once in a while. On other sites it's basically every 6 or 7 hands...give or take. Espcecially BODOG...worst site ever..stay away from there!!! In general there is no fairness with these other sites..there is no trust. They generally are just entertainment for a lot of amateurs not serious about the game, who love the constant action. The sites know this and so they feed lots of good hands knowing you just cant resist playing them out of the pocket. Anyone who has played poker and knows the game knows there is no such thing as constant action on every hand, like these sites have. It is hours of boredom capped off by moments of action. That is in a fair, well played game at least. These sites are businesses (we have to keep that in mind!!!) They are HERE TO MAKE MONEY!! The smaller sites which coincidentally everyone seems to complain about need money to survive!! So those in turn become the action sites. Where everything is set up. Larger sites like UB and Pokerstars are so huge already, they have enough money so they can offer a fair game. They will get their rake anyway. Smaller site's need the money, but no one seems to understand this.
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This may have been mentioned earlier- I agree that the bi1ching about bad beats is silly. All of the major sites have their software audited by big independent auditing firms, many of which do all kinds of business outside of online gambling. All of the sites have these reports on-line- they're complicated and mathematical, but pretty obviously legit (and can also be accessed from the auditor's sites, lending further legitimacy). Someone mentioned above that you see more bad beats on UB because you see more hands- this is exactly right. As for the guy who did a test on 10 hands, that is just an incredibly insufficient sample. You'd have to do 1000s or millions of hands on UB to get any kind of real evidence of randomness/lack thereof- the 'law of averages' that someone mentioned. Gamblers sure are a paranoid and superstitious lot.
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#7
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What the hell?Is every single site cheating? This is ridiculous. As a developer (thinking I'll fix this shit up and clean up!) I can't help thinking there is a reason. Sounds to me like all these sites are spending more money on promotion and less on anti fraud.Fix the anti fraud and you have the best game in town.
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