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I have been playing, and collecting statistics on PartyPoker.com for about a year. I too was suspicious when players would stay in with a 10 - 3 off-suit after being raised 4 times the BB, only to catch a full house or some monster hand after the flop. So, I tried an experiment: I setup the pp software on a new machine with full network monitoring. I played a tournament and won. I played a second tournament and placed third. I played a third tournament and won again. During the third tournament, I noticed I was getting lots of alerts from my firewall, and, I noticed that a new application was running on my machine. I shut the machine down in an attempt to kill the software, and, I thought I had -- so, I played another tournament. Got put out with aces when someone called a very large raise with 5 - 9 suited and drew into a straight. Next tournament I had JJ and again raised big. The other player had a nine - 3 suited. I caught another J on the flop and the other player caught one more suited card (so they only had three cards to the flush). I went all in, they called and drew into a flush. Now, I have been playing poker with live people in Vegas for about ten years, and, I have never seen the pattern of bad beats that I have seen on pp. I know how this sounds - but you have to admit that this is very suspicous behavior based on the statistical facts. I am in the software business, and, I have heard rumors that some of the online gambling software IS doing handicapping, where the software will put you in a "lucky" position in order to get you hooked, and into a normal seat once you have won. I am having a hard time believing this, but, the statistics on the number of bad beats is a bit alarming.

I've won money after I cashed out, I've lost money after I deposited and I've won and lost money at various stages in between. I've had numerous amounts of bad cards in a row, but also a lot of good cards in a row, with which I've gotten bad beats and good profits. I don't see any pattern here.Remember, because the tables are so loose, it's often mathematically correct of those loose players to call a bet on the flop because the pot is so big most of the time. Frequently the pot odds are over 7 : 1 and in really loose and wild games over 10 : 1. So people with a flush draw, outside straight draw, 2 overcards, set (to make a full house), pair + overcard and even gutshot straight draw are correct to call. That's the disadvantage of loose games and you'd better get used to it. Also, if so many people stay in the game the probability of just one player getting some wild hand increases.

One A Span Of Two Hours Last Week: Trip Kings On The Flop, Opponent Hits Quads On The Turn, Lost $90. Trip Queens On The Flop Opponent Hits Boat On River, Lost $60. Pocket Aces, Opponent Moves All In With 9 7, He Hits Trip Nines On The Turn, Lost $90. Trip Fives On The Flop, Opponent Hits Trip Queens On Turn, Lost $50, Same Opponent As 9 7 Hand By The Way. Not Playin There Anymore.

I began playing Texas Holdem about 6 months ago. I’m a computer geek with a strong math background and figured I’d just go on line and beat everyone. I lost. But I was having fun. So I went back to the drawing board: purchased about 12 books on poker: Sklansky’s book on poker theory (great), Jones, Bill Burton, Small Stakes Hold’em (Sklansky, Malmuth, Miller), Vorhees (sic). I also dusted off my old stats books and did some reading on gaming theory. I was impressed by the sound approaches these authors have taken to poker in general and specifically, Texas Hold’em: Play only premium starting hands, be aware of your position, read the board and keep an eye on what your competition is doing. I purchased the MS Texas Hold’em simulator. I played 7,000 hands through the simulator. On a scale of 1 to 10, I would rate myself about 2.5. I am not ready for the big time, and I would get killed against most of you. But that’s okay cause I am learning.I had played my account at Partypoker down to basically nothing and was playing at other sites and still doing a lot of simulator work when I noticed a $20 credit to my Partypoker account. I figured what the hell and started playing in the .5/1.00 tables. I wasn’t really surprised when the results mirrored what was happening in the simulator and in my home games. I am tight, but I will bet and raise. I was winning but at a modest level, and the poor play of the other players was what contributed to my winnings. I might not be that good, by man, some of these folks are really bad. Then last Wednesday, something very strange happened: I went 86 hands without a winner. I played a total of 130 hands and only had the one winning hand. Results were the same on Friday, Saturday and finally Sunday. I lost $140 and never really got to play. Every hand I did play was beaten and I mean every one. On the average, at a table with 10 players, you should be dealt a winning hand about once every 10 hands. Going nearly 300 hands with only 1 clear winner is statistically significant and can’t be ignored. If I was doing medical testing and expected a 10% hit rate and only got 1 hit in 300, I’d have some explaining to do.The way I see it: Partypoker needs a constant injection of money to keep things going. While they virtually have a license to steal raking pots, there isn’t anyone regulating them or watching what they do. As far as I know, even if they were caught cheating, I am not sure it’s even a crime. In my mind, they are clearly handicapping the cards. I went along for about 3 weeks going up a little, coming down a little. I honestly believe my betting style wasn’t conducive to their profitability, as I seemed to dampen the action when I got into many hands. I really think the game is skewed. After all, how would anyone be able to “prove” it? And what does Partypoker have to lose? They are nothing more than a set of web pages and some software. They could close down and re-open at another location in a matter of a couple of days and who would know? Actually, there’s nearly zero chance they could be caught and not really any penalty if they were caught. I am convinced the fix was in. They gave me a couple of bucks, let me play for awhile and then blew me out of the water.

I agree with everyone. This Site is rigged. Im sorry but im a good consistent player who plays alot. Theres been soooooo many times were i'll go on incredible runs. I play mostly 25 NL and i'll make 200 in a night. Then the next 4 nights i ll lose 50 a night. The hands i'll lose to are ridiculous too. Im talking the one single card that could beat my hand would fall on ther river. I mean it was like i was seroiulsy the most unllucky person in the entire world. It was unbeliavable. THen the next night though, id go on this rampage and clean up the competition. Then the next 4 days i'd lose 50 a day. My account history is full of about 3 days of $400 cash outs. Then the next 4 days are full of about $600 in deposits due to riducoulous losses. THIS SITE IS RIGGED.

All this negative commentary about PP is very interesting to me as I have been contemplating playing for real money after 50+ hours of play money games. I'd be way ahead if it had been real money, probably winning more than 35% of 10/1 NL and PL Hold'em tournaments and top three in excess of 65%. Maybe need to do some more homework before putting down the $$$.

I have played party poker for about 4 months now and I am exasperated with the sight. I am a good enough player. I'm not claiming to be a pro but I'm good enough. It seems the more times I re deposit. The quicker and harsher I lose the money. But then when I'm on free money, I just win oodles and oodles of money. I never have to re up on free money. I play so well and become so confident that this time I'll do well, that I re up to real money. And what do you know, gone in less than a day. I started noticing my bad luck string and how much worse it was getting after I cashed out. Ever since I did that, I've never gotten squat for cards. I'm not saying that the sight is corrupt, but it's just so aggravating. It's almost like they have me pegged as how to push my buttons with cards. I would understand if in free money, I was one of those guys that constantly had to reup but I've never reupped even once on dot.net or dot.com free money. I've built bankrolls into the millions on those sights, and then when I play with the real money all of the sudden I'm such a bad player. I don't buy it. I think you're account gets blacklisted if you cash out. It's the only explanation I have for it. It's so non-random. That's enought ranting for me, but I do warn everyone that reads this. There are a few tricks up their sleeve.