ONLINE POKER - SITE - Party Poker

Also would like to agree on many comments on this table about multiple pocket pairs. Don't know how many times I've seen 3 pocket pairs in one hand. Pocket aces are about 50% to win on this site!

I agree with alot of people here about bots and scanners. once you start winning and cash out, the hands get real bad and your forced to deposit the money back in again. Percentages are fixed with certain players depending upon who party poker wants to keep hooked. Stick with the real live casino poker games where people cant see your hands. Check out websites and put in "poker bots" and "poker cheating" in your search bar. you will soon discover how these online casinos rake in money. not only by hand buy by putting in bots at $30 tables. go in yourself and see how many (bots) just sit at tables waiting for a person to come along. They wont respond to you and they sit for hours at a table. according to MSNBC, the only way you know it is a bot is when they sit there for 24 hours in a stretch. no exhaustion factor for a bot. play fake money it will keep you on top of your game for when you go to a real casino.dont be stupid like I was.... investigate first before throwing your real chips in the pot.

Alright. There it is. An analysis of David Sklansky's top 16 hands as recorded by PokerTracker (see the software tab) for the 2,500 or so hands I have played at Party Poker over the past two months. Please note that all but one have been profitable. I am no expert, but I am competative. I am not a bot. I do not work for Party Poker. I do not cheat. If you are not getting similiar results from these hands, it is not because the game is rigged, it's because your soft-playing them and letting your oppenents outdraw you cheaply. If your losing, hit the books, rethink your game and stop whining.(2,478 hands)Hand Dealt Win % Net AveAA 10 80.0 $57.00 $5.70 AKs 6 66.7 $53.00 $8.83 AKo 19 47.4 $47.00 $2.47 AQs 12 75.0 $92.00 $7.67 AQo 17 29.4 ($2.50) ($0.15)AJs 6 83.3 $38.50 $6.42 ATs 5 40.0 $14.50 $2.90 KK 9 66.7 $35.00 $3.89 KQs 6 50.0 $12.00 $2.00 KJs 7 28.6 $44.00 $6.29 QQ 19 84.2 $293.00 $15.42 QJs 6 33.3 $8.00 $1.33 JJ 6 33.3 $13.50 $2.25 JTs 6 16.7 $10.00 $1.67 TT 14 35.7 $55.50 $3.96 99 12 66.7 $128.00 $10.67

This place is a joke. I used their site to refer my roommate... then proceeded to sign her up on my other computer. I followed all their instructions exactly and they refused to honor their $50 bonus that was offered for referrals. After fighting for a week they insisted that instructions were not followed and I would not be getting my bonus. They were rude and slow with their responses. Their site lacks graphics, not easy to maneuver around their site, and customer support is slow to respond. There is no shortage of places to play. Dont bother supporting these scammers. Obviously, there are plenty of complaints other than just mine... just look around.

Great site, if you have a problem with either thinking new platers get great hands, or losing on the river. Your looking for an excuse because your sh*t.I play on $2/$4 & $3/$6 tables, and always start every night with around $50 - $100 from my account. 5 nights out of 7 i will end with roughly $400 after 2 - 3 hours play, and oocasioanlly i wont but i limit myself and dont reload that night.. Making a profit each and every week since i started over 9 months ago..If you cant play poker YOU WILL lose money... If you cant play poker YOU WILL look for excuses to blame anyone else but yourself. The only reason i dont give it 10/10 and 9, is that the river card could do with coming down slower so your able to actually see the hand that one, rather than it all taking place and having to look at the hand history to see what happened..

Totally agree shaunyboyThis site is the dogs biscuit

you guys need to move on. ive been thru the anger phase, you will get over it. there are more important things out there. just realize it is a scam, no doubt. anyone who says the cardplay is fair is just being ignorant. play your speed, or go work on your car. close this thread and move on w your lives.---shaunyboy, over 32000 dollars in nine months minimum? never losing? damn, we must be blessed...we have witnessed the greatest pokerplayer ever...youre bs. (ive seen you play)

I love these people that talk about how much they've won. LOL I'm sure shaunyboy. I've also seen you play and I know your full of BS. The reason party poker falls short is because of unbelievable hands that happen too many times seeing runner, runner to claim a pot. Always so many callers and chasers that catch on the river. This site is unrealistic. People do not call all in bets hoping to catch and inside straight draw on the river in real life, but on party poker it's a normality and I'd say a good 30% to 50% of the time they catch their inside straight. Also too many 4 card flushes on the board. Don't know how many times I've flopped a flush only too have a fourth of that suit show up on the river and lose to a higher kicker. I've won and lost on this site but honestly luck seems to prevail over skill on this site. For those who say all these people complaining don't know how to play poker get a life. The people complaining on here are the ones who DO know how to play and are sick and tired of getting burned by bad players that catch miracle river cards. Party Poker takes the skill out of the game!

ithink partypoker (PP) is the perfect on-line poker site for any1. i have played several other sites but so far i think PP is the best.there is always good connection unless it is during a storm and u have dial-up. i have had no probs.with PP the only downside is that there are a few cheating sites that people use that makes u very pissed off..i recomend u to play the multi-tournament games because they are the best. the sit and go tournaments are pretty good.....

There is an accepted and understood part of poker in casinos and card rooms: Shills and Props. These terms refer to players who are employed by the cardroom to get a game going so that players arriving at a cardroom have a place to sit down and play. The differences between a Shill and prop? One keeps his winnings, the other doesn't. Both are on the payroll at the casino/cardroom.You should immediately notice the simularity between a SHILL/PROP and a BOT. Given that the BOT is merely performing a service that is considered acceptable in the gaming industry, why on earth would Party Poker NOT USE them.I think Party Poker's random number generator is fair, but the dynamic of the game is changed when a BOT is introduced. More betting, more people invested in the pot and staying around longer than they should = more beats on the river. For the record, party poker is raking new players over the coals with their BOTS. I was completely discouraged by my results at Party Poker but when I went to Ultimate Bet and Poker Room, I immediately started winning and have progressed to the $3/$6 tables where I routinely win. Not a lot, but enough to keep the game enjoyable and the free.For those of you playing in the tournaments and high level limits at Party Poker, the lower limits are an absolute mess and unless you spend a fair amount of time playing at these levels, you shouln't pass judgement.

the betting, playing, and navigating through the site is good. lots of different games to play. Not playing there again though. For over a month i've lost almost 95% at the river. this is when i got sets, straights, flushes, and full-boats after the flop or turn and i knew i had the stronger hand and was betting accordingly. I know "it's poker," but, i play at real cardhouses/casinos; and sure, i lose at the river at times. But, not 95% of the time. Yesterday i had a friend watch, and whenever i put someone all-in, I always (100%)lost at the river, and i had the better hand 80% of the time. after losing a bunch of $$$, my buddy was right, play with play money, but NOT real $$$. lesson learned, never again. keep your money, and if you have to play, go to a cardhouse.

BOTS are in play at Party Poker. I had AK suited and raised from an early position. The BOT sitting next to me Re-raised, a 3rd raise came in from late position. 4 of us in the hand. Flop was A J 4. I raised with my aces. Ths BOT Re-raised again. Turn was a 3, river was a 9. BOT re-raised a total of 5 times. He had a 3 and 9 unsuited. He re-raised with a 9 high pre-flop, no flush or straight draws. He re-raised after the flop, still had nothing and 2 overcards on the board. He re-raised on the turn with a pair of 3s. He re-raised on the river with 2 pair... And won. One player immediately commented: That sucks. Player 2 commented "That ain't right". Two players immediately left the game.

unreal, ive been a favorite in 95% of my showdowns and lost 80% of em. This site is a joke. Would certainly go elsewhere.

If you like to play rags this is your site. Im never playing at this crooked site again.

How is this site not investigated and shut down. The rules and percentages of poker dont apply at party poker.

If there is two people all in in front of you and you have rags push them in you'll surely suck out. This site is an absolute joke, would strongly advise u steer clear of party poker. To many bots and is designed to keep you around even no matter if you are great or terrible in poker skills. That way the buy ins never stop.

Article on bot usage in online poker rooms
[url]http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6002298/[/url]

The article is really good and I would agree that playing against a BOT programmed to "Play" poker is normally easy to beat. I have the MxSholdem simulator with 9 canned players (BOTS) and I can beat them without to much difficulty.But Party Poker's BOTs aren't there to win, they are there to generate larger pots = bigger rakes. This changes the complexion of the game.Also: notice that BOTS employed by Party Poker as SHILLS is not being addressed anywhere. Seems a bit too big a possiblity to be overlooked by folks. At least you would expect a denial or soeone to ask PArty POker point blank if they are using BOTS.

Your Sample Sizes Are All Insignificant. Do Any Of You Understand What That Means? Do Any Of You Undertand The Concepts Of Probability? Standard Deviation? Variance? The "long-run"?

A while back, 2 guys in Florida called the police to report they had been ripped off during a drug deal. If you are smart enough to recognize how stupid these two guys are, apply the exact same logic to reporting party poker. It's illegal to gamble in most states. Besides, as SAMPLE SIZE as so disingeniously implied, all you are WRONG because you can't "Prove" you were cheated. In fact, it is a statistical impossiblity to prove you have been cheated. That's right. You get pocket aces dealt to you 5 times in a row. Strange yes, outside the mathematical norms, yep, Statistically possible? Betcher ass. Let's review: you are involved in an illegal activity with a company that is outside the jurisdiction of everyone and no matter what happens, there is no way to prove you have been cheated cause SAMPLE SIZE is going to jump in and demonstrate how your losses are within "acceptable" variances.Party Poker is a web page with some software. Computer geeks call this a virtual company. It exists on the web. They could shut down party poker today and start up as pokermommas.com tomorrow.

A lot of big pots being lost or giving to people who stay in with next to nothing and bet like there is no tomorrow and end up winning on the River card, which by the way would be played with a slight delay. Played over 150 hands nothing to even bet on. I won the first time I joined and lost ever since. This site is not on the up and up stay away! Convinced they have their own players at every table. STAY AWAY!

I would rate it a 0 but they don't have 0. Lets see, the last hand I played, I had an AK and raised from early position, the only caller was the sb. the flop was AA5, THe sb raised at me, I raised him back, he reraised me, and I raised him back, next card was a 7, and wouldn't you know, he called the preflop with an A7 off, what miracle. Anyone with any poker skill, would have a good indication I had the AK, and would have just called, but to be reraised twice with A and low kicker, come on. The hands are rigged and the house players clean up. I can tell you a few hundred of these same stories, I know bad beats are a part of poker, but at party poker, 99% of the time, you are on the losing end of the bad beat, thats the odd part. Just a few hands before this one I had pp 7's flopped a full house, and a k comes on the river and my heads up opponent just happened to have KK, Two hands in a row I raised the ante and was called by the BB, and aces flopped both times, and I was flushed on the river, by the BB's, twice I was on the bb and caught 3 of a kind only to find that the ante raiser caught full houses. When I'm not in the hand, high pair wins, when I am in the hand I get reraised by someone with nothing who gets a magic river card, Its a constant series of bad beats which you are on the short end of the stick. There is only 1 true reaon this happens, they plant house player and rig the hands for them to win. And the really wird thing is they chase you to the river and always catch, if you played stupid like them, you get a nice slap in the face on a constant basis. There is just no explanation for so many other people to see the same thing, the site is totally rigged, and we were their suckers.

People bluff with rags more online and suck out because they do not have to look their oppopnent in the eye when they make terrible poker moves. Getting beat by A-7 with A-K is not that terrible. Happens all the time. Its a game of numbers and random probability. PP seems alright, but I only play low stakes. My only complaint is that once you go below 5 bucks your money is dead, until you deposit more. No free rolls either. As for online cheating, my answer is, where there is a will there is a way. Especially when millions of dollars are at stake.

Holy Sweet Hell...all of the people who are saying Party Poker is legitimate and the people losing are just whining and are terrible players, are those same joke players who are gut fishing every hand and pulling ridiculous rivers. I think everyone here knows how to play poker, and to sit down at these tables and compare them to every live game Ive been in and every TV game Ive seen is a freaking JOKE. I dont care if you're brain dead stupid, and just got your neck severed by a rusty tractor, NOONE plays 86 off suit for a 900 chip 1st position raise when there are 4 people left in a $200 tourney and the chip counts are about 3000 to 2400 to 2200 to 2100.......then the flop comes out A A 10.........then I bet all my chips with an A J.....he calls with nothing, and pulls 2 running diamonds to get a flush. That doesnt happen. Ever. Period. And if you think that was the first time.....wrong.....that was the 2nd to last in a losing run of 14 straight tournaments where I put all my chips in EVERY SINGLE TIME BUT ONCE WITH THE BEST HAND.....LITERALLY. Two times out of those 14, the guy calls with a one card gutshot straight draw with 1 card left. And guess what card came on the river both of those times. Probably the worst thing I ve ever seen though, was in a stud game(and I realize stud players stay with anythying and everything)....but I had 3 aces showing(yes I said 3 aces showing on the first three board cards)....a guy called me all the way down.......we were the 2 chip leaders....here were his cards in order.....9 2 J 3 6 5(no flush draws by the way....none at all).....and the last card....does anyone know what it could possibly be?....if you said 4, then youve played at Party Poker before. Called me down for all 2400 of his chips with a pile of crap I wouldnt use to scrape the dog crap off my sidewalk with. And, if it matters, I am still up $700 overall since I started, so to all those morons who dont see anything weird with Party Poker, I'm not dead broke and just whining, and I probably have notes on every one of you.....reading: "This guy is the freaking dumbest thing Ive ever seen....I mean, are you kidding me....he called with (name your cards) when the board showed(name the board)...I am going to find this guy and rip his teeth out and beat his robot head in with them." Literally, if the cards went the way of the odds, just 60% of the time, I would be up there with shaunyboy and his $32,000. This site is a complete joke. I tell myself ever time I get on that the odds have to work themselves out after a while.....they never have....I have had to grind my way through limit sessions so many times to keep my money total up after jackasses pull rivers on me in every big tourney I play. I have logged about 5,000 hours on this site, constantly getting jammed by people calling monster bets on the come and drawing out every time. I know poker, I know odds, I know jokes....and this site is a complete joke. But it sure is fun when you win on morons calling that same stuff and not pulling it on you.....so I keep playing until I lose money.

Oh and by the way, if you are having any problems with your account, talk to Mihjad Mehosapitapetilan in the customer service department. He is very helpful.....as long as you are fluent in the Mid East Coptic languages of the dead era.

Oh, and DuckbombTom is right on.....if some guy played that 86o against my AJ that close to the money in a live game like he did, I would sacrifice my job, my life, my wife and kids, to jump over the table and plunge my fountain pen into his dirty river rat jugular. Have a great day everyone!

The river is not shady you are a bunch of annoying paranoid fucktards. Learn math and get a basic understanding of probabilities. However, party poker will freeze your account if you make a mistake depositing or something and its a real pain in the ass. so it gets a 9.

Lets see, I had a suited AK in the early position right off the button, raised the ante, and was called by the SB. The flop, A5A, excellent.The SB bets at me, even better, I raise him, he reraises me, I raise him back. The turn a 7, he bets at me, so I just call him, and the river a 2, same bets. He flips over his A7 off. So he beats me with an A7 off. I know the PP scenerio, if I had the A7 off, I would have lost the hand with the low kicker, but this is Rigaroma, we are talking about, and once he kept raising me after the flop, I knew, that I had him beat after the flop, and he would somehow beat me betwen the turn and the river, that is how the rig is played on this site. I agree, poker has its bad beats, but the truly amazing thing at Party Poker, is, you are 99% of the time on the losing end of the bad beat. I have had this scenerio repeat over and over and over again. If you want to know who the planted players at a table are, thats easy, just say that party poker is rigged, and watch them jump out of their seats defending it. Why would a site that makes so much money on a rake do this, you might ask, well I guess the answer is simple, Greed ! Do you think the site is run by a group of honest alter boys ? Or, can it be a bit sinister ? Look at the largest jackpot they ever had, lets see now,Lucky1lucky1 lost the hand to zzzzz69, hmmm, what names, wonder how long it took the site to make up those 2 names, at least they had enough of a sense of hunor to throw in the 69, kind of an ironic way of saying they just screwed everyone. I can list hundreds of hands I played that were beaten with nothing, AA with preflop raise called only by the BB with 10 2 off, whats the flop, 722, AK preflop raise 2 hands in a row, called onyl by the BB, and both times the BB got flushes with suited 72, and suited 63. KK called by AJ off, lost to runner runner diamonds. The list is so extensive, and to look at all these hands is almost humorous. The last and final hand I played before I deleted the site, I had high pair, with 4 hearts, which also gave me a flush draw in a NL torny, The bb made a small bet after the turn, and I went all in, he called my bet, and the river card gave him an inside str, he had nothing whatsover when he called an all in, and then he says, boy did I get lucky. Well, its funny, cause there are an awfyl lot of people calling down great hands with nothing, and magically getting lucky, and if you should try chasing a hand on this site, I guarentee you, you will not be so lucky. Are these just bad players, playing gawd awful cards getting lucky, I don't think so, why are the humna players, always the ones getting badly beaten ? Its very simple, they prerig the hands, they plant house players at the tables, and they get lucky at an astronomical rate. There isn't anyone sitting there looking over PP's site, so they can do whatever they like, and they are, period. Anyone defending this site, is working for them.

I've gotten the same bad beats at pokerstars too. However at Party poker, I've won a 100 hold'em tourney for $6000 and a $12600 package for the WPT cruise in March - so how can I complain? If you feel the table raked games are rigged - don't play them.. However, I have had lots of success in the touneys and there is no rake for the site to steal. Learn to enjoy the site for what it is or go to your local casino and play at a live table.

I'm going to say that the site is horrible on account of its mediocre software, horrible support, and insanely loose players. I don't buy the accounts of cheating and bots and so on, but even with that, it's probably not worth your time unless you enjoy **really** loose games. I gave up on the site after realizing that I had to spend an hour to find a table that wasn't too loose for my taste. 50,000+ users and about 12 of them know how to play a good, fun game of poker.