ONLINE POKER - SITE - Party Poker

There is truth to what many are saying. Yes, many times poker is poker. But the idea that Partypoker punished you for taking out money and rewards poor players to keep their money in circulation in generally valid. When folks call All-Ins with 22 v AA or $30 raises with 3,5OS v AA and win, tell me it isn't rigged. Time and time again it will happen. Have had THREE flopped straight flushes beaten on the river by perfect-perfect and a Quad beaten by a bigger quad the same way. Yes, poker is poker. But anyway who thinks Partypoker isn't juicing the hands to bump of the rake is kidding themselves. They are washing the money. Same asa slot machine. You get a 93% return if you put in $100 and never put the money back in. But if you keep playing you get a 93% return in $500 worth of play - you don't lose $7, you lose $35 of your original $100. If Partypoker gets you to have $1000 worth of play on your original $100 with a 5% rake...ANYONE DISAGREE?

I agree with above. I will no longer play for REAL money at partypoker.com. I also have seen way to many 4 of a kinds. Also when there is a flush out you better bet there is a boat there so they rake more money. Or a boat and 4 of a kind in the same hand as well. I have been beat WAY to many times on the river with good hands. 2 pairs flushes and such. I have also seen the losing streaks after cashing out and getting bonuses as well. I just only play there for fake chips now. Passes the time doesnt do much for my bank account though.

I do disagree. If a rigged simulator and a rake increase are the excuses people want to use when they get outdrawn, let them. If you went to a local casino and saw 4 quads beaten by higher quads, would you acuse the casino of putting more aces in the deck than there should be? Of course not. Specifically, 5-3 and 2-2 will beat aces 17% of the time, thats one out of every 6 hands. In the long run, it will work out that way. The aces may be beaten 2 or 3 times, then not beaten for the next 150. Try this, show the person ready to call your aces with 5-3 your aces next time. I gaurantee nobody will ever call. Plus you cant tell me that you believe the 5% wash system but not the hand percentage system. All I can say is this, Ive played on partypoker for a little over 2 years now and my initial $500 deposit has made me just about $17,000. I've never had a major problem with bad players being rewarded, hands being juiced for bigger rakes, or anything like that. If bad playing was the case, then my suggestion would be mortgage your house, sell your car, invest the kids college fund, put it all on the first 5-3 offsuit you can find and buy that dream vacation home in the Virgin Islands you've always wanted! Dont you think every person in the world would do it if it were that easy? Anyway, excellent site. Known for loose players and maniacks at times, but tight/aggressive players usually walk away with a decent chunk of change. My main bit of advice is this..... DONT MARRY YOUR ACES! Contrary to popular opinion, they are beatable.

Quit the moaning... Party Poker has loose players = more people playing at the river -> more people rivered.... big deal... the fact is this site has the biggest and best multitable tourneys online... the weekend tourneys have 20 minute blinds rather than 15 mins and that makes a big difference... the best players are constant winners... just check out Quick_Pay, he is always high in the money in the big Multi's and that's skill rewarded, not collusion/fishy rivers or whatever the rest of the moaners say.... great site... only downside is too many players so that you cant get to know your opponents...

My good days come right after I deposit or come back after a long break, and my bad ones generally after I cash out. That's the only thing no one's explained that I am personally seeing on my account. Anyone think becoming a "preferred player" by filling out and faxing in all those personal details has anything to do with it?

I have some success on this site, as well as some of my friends. Yet, I still think this site is bogus. I know a complainer sounds like a loser in poker, but I know the odds and the probablities. I also know that I am a solid player, great? no! Here's the problem, you will see a run of bad luck after a cash out. I have cashed out three times and all three times it has happened. The last one being the worst. I am up about 2k, but I still don't like the site. I lost for 2 weeks straight after my last cash out. The second week I kept track of the percentages. I lost 83% of the hands I was favored in pre-flop and after flop, 83% what more can you say. My success came in tourneys mostly. My last 8 were hilarious. AK suited was the best hand i saw in 6 of them. I go all in with the short stack 5/6 times I was up against AA, the other was QQ. lost all six. My last tourney, ended after my pocket A's got cracked twice. Twice in the same tourney. Those percentages are too far fetched for me. Do what you please, there is plenty of money on partypoker, but the site is bogus to me.

ok heres an example i get ace king in the hole oon 25 nl game so i amke a $5 raise one caller..flop A K 7 so i go in my last $10 this guy calls when they turn the cards over hes holding 45 off suit and what do you know turn 6 river 8..he knew what was coming up..turns out 45 off is a 85% winner..tested and proven i got the hand histories lol..its rigged

You Are Silly If You Think Party Poker Would Be Anything But Completely Fair In Its Games. It Rakes Millions Of Dollars Every Day And Does Not Need To Cheat To Make Money. It Does The Best Job Of Attracting Fish, Period. Play There.

PP is a total joke and won't handle a situation fairly if it occurs.....a couple weeks back, I was in a $100 buy in limit tourney, about 90 players, $9K prize money......I was in 4th chip position when the tourney had reached 19 players ( top 10 in the $$ )....the tourney froze for about 45 minutes, they let it continue, and one player was able to not be frozen during this time and to his surprise and a couple observers, he was able to quadruple his chip stack by swallowing the entire 10 player table's blinds during that time while all other players not only couldn't do anything about it, they didn't even know it as happening until 45 minutes later, when we all returned, saw what had happened, everyone complained, I had already contacted their support twice during the freeze and now was frantic after seeing what had happened and was on the phone again with them....the ended up doing, nothing, letting the tourney go on, I finished 12th out of the money after having my chip stack illegally crippled....complained for FIVE HOURS of my personal time following up thru their customer support ( all of whom are from Indian descent and NONE of which knew anything about poker, including all of their supervisors )...they offered to refund my entry fee of $100, when I had paid $100 + 9 and was in a chip position worth almost $500 based on remaining chip counts at the time of freezethe above info has already beens sent to most major poker sites, tournaments, magazines, and online gambling watchdogs...thought the members here should know alsogl luck all

anyone wanting a transcript of the situation described above, email [email]donquixote34@hotmail.com[/email] .. ....I've the complete hand to hand log history, with player commentary as well

Overall site is decent. As in any poker forum, good play usually prevails. However, I have noticed some truth to the onset of losses after cashing out. Coincidence?? A seasoned player knows that a bad stretch of cards is inevitable if you play enough. With PP, that stretch always seems to come after a cash out.

I thought the posts about the losing streak after the cash out was very interesting. I just wanted to say that I had a similiar experience, where I just could not win a hand...Maybe pps way of redistributing the wealth after a big up streak.

I think their front-end is the best - clear and simple. After several months of playing I definitelly notice the trend of losing hands after withdraw request, it's not even funny. As long as you don't touch your bankroll - it's a fun site.

Greatest site ever. My cashouts are processed in nomore than 45 minutes. Many many tables. Loose and tough. Great support. Man!! 60000 players.No freerolls however.They will occasionally give you a free $20 to play with. It happened with me.It can only be compared to pokerstars which is great too especially for tournaments

I am what you might call a "tight" to "extremely tight" (rock) semi-pro player. Very nice layout & functionality. HOWEVER, I am concerned about the unusually long "streaks" of bad luck. I am familiar with poker odds & the fact that everything will even out in the long run - ASSUMING that the correct poker probabilities are being utilized on the website. In the last 1,000 hours (+-) on this site, I have consistently found that the fequency of BAD BEATS is disturbing. We must keep in mind that there are inherently more bad players in online gaming because of the convenience & less threatening ability to play from your home; with more bad players - you get more bad beats. With all that said, I still have a bad taste in my mouth. Here's something tangible that should matter to the average poker player... I track my poker play...at "live" games I average $55 per hour over the last 2 years; at Party Poker that number is NEGATIVE $46 per hour!!!! Good Luck!

has anyone played against MRBASSASSASI? he is unreal if he sits down at your table run!

I started my online play at PartyPoker. I like the inter account transfers, i like the volume of players around the clock, and I enjoy being the guy with the hat. What I don't like is the fact that on three different occassions I have seen pocket KK beat pocket KK. How many times can a flush splatter the board. I also had to leave party for the reason that when I make a big bet in 25 NL with pocket AJs and the board comes JJ6. Why would someone call with 54. This is after a healthy preflop raise. did he just figure he'd get lucky and catch a 23 on the fourth and river? What makes me sick is the 2 came on the 4th when I bet again. I went all in for my other 7 bucks on the river figuring he wouldnt possibly have the 5 4 or a J /236 after he called the flop. Anybody know who could have that sense to stay?

Yes Party Does cheat, when I first played I made about 3,000 dollars over a period of 3 months, then all of a sudden after cashing out I lost every time for then next Four months. I could not win at all at any stakes. I never go on bad streaks like that at any Brick and Mortar or home games. The most insane situations would constantly come up over and over again. For instance whenever I have QQ or KK some one has A\pocket aces. And when I do have aces people with 44, 33 get set on me. AA should would 70% OF the time no matter what against a full table of random hands played to the end. On party AA will only win about 20% of the time. It feels like a miracle when it happens.

I have played in many different sites and all of them have good poker...but Partypoker by far has the best poker. There are a few MAJOR problems, errors, mistakes whatever u want to call them. lets just say they need to re-write the game from scratch i have noticed some players when the maximum buy in is 100 come in with 500. An error...or is it something more i seriuosly think something has to be done about the way the supervisors handle affairs. Take last week for instance, I was playing Ladbrokes Poker and i paid in £5 and the game froze the minute i went in, it stayed frozen for about 15mins bye then i had 20 pence left. I email them and straight away they returned my buy in and said that over 20 players had the same problem. Then on PartyPoker i was in a buy in of $100 ages ago and the scren froze for like 40mins and when i came back this guy had like 3 times his chip stack before and all the rest of the players had hardly anything left. So PartyPoker officials if u r reading this, get your act together Boys!!!

I know you see more hands than casino , and i know people play more loose, but the bad beats are absolutely out of this world. Today i had 3 aces on river after first flop , king was at the end , the next 2 cards on the river show up king , king , my opponent had a king in his hand . now this is jus one of the few instances ive seen that my mouth dropped and said yea this gotta be bs .... the tourneys are drove quicker to re-up buy in , and the real money tables are rake built up ... only explanation

What I dont understand is this: Everybodys mind is set on this "I'm punished when I cash out and rewarded after my deposit" conspiracy theroy. If thats the case, then use some common sense. Next time you cash out, cash out EVERYTHING and re-deposit whatever you want! OR wait, let me guess, there's a little elf inside your computer thats relaying this information to partypoker so it wont happen if you try it. Maybe if you came to the realization that you suck and read a book or two, you'll see how rediculous you sound.

I find for the most part that this site is a joke. I still play all the time, but would never play for real money on this site. There is too much scanning and stacking of the deck. I have to try table after table just to find legit players. Need to start monitoring play tables more, and then maybe I would consider playing cash. Until then, I will stick to real casinos. P.S. I play at real casinos on a VERY regular basis, and know how to play poker. Cheating is involved at Party Poker. Those who say that it isn't are probably the cheaters.

i've played at a few sites, and have to admit i like PP the best... however something is definitely wrong or fixed with the site. typically for the past 6 months i've made a steady $ 500 per week profit. For the last few weeks, I win about 20% of my races. If I have A-K, all low cards flop. If I have pocket 4's, someone hits a straight and the board looks like 10-10-J-K-9. Hands that are supposed to be 75%-25% in my favor (eg: KK vs 66 or A-K vs A-J) end up losing for me 80% of the time. The odds just don't add up - and a 2-3 week time period is a big time frame where there should be SOME equality.Already today I am down a few hundo, and have lost 3 of 3 races (A-K lost to 9-9, 6-6 lost to A-J, and 8-8 lost to A-Q) - and lost 2 bad beats (Q-Q lost to A-J and K-K lost to 9-9) - these were all pre-flop all-ins, and there is almost no way that one can continue to lose consistently. I'm a tight player and am curious as to how for 6 months I could be pulling in profits with the same game play, then all of a sudden I am losing the same amounts?Don't get me wrong, I play for fun mostly, but it's sickening when your account dwindles down to zero b/c of some ridiculous beats that always hit.

I won a few lost a few for the first day or two that I played at PP.Then after that all the stuff everyone talks about started.One thing I never read about that I noticed is when in any tournament I can get to just before the money; then what I call the low guy shuffle starts. Two people will go all in and watch; 80 to 90 percent of the time the guy with less chips wins.Call me a griper; you probably work for them who knows and I don't care.I know what I see.Check out the low guy shuffle next time you play a sit and go or any other tournament.

Partypoker is just out of line ( Flush) . No matter what you play sit and go or regular tables 90% of the time a player will catch a flush. I've lost probably more than 5 $20 tournaments having AA against 88 or 1010 or even 33 and for some reason 4 spades in a row will show up for a flush or A ( hitting a set aces ) and then 245 for my opponent to make a stg with 33 ?? . Ultimate bet is the fullhouse website and 4 of a kind I have seen people having 4 of a kind 3 times in a single table tournament. Pokerstars is a good website bad beats as well but not as often as partypoker and ub.

I love to steal money from little piggies like you whinners at partypoker. Anways why would the BIGGEST online poker site risk their company for a little bit more money. When you goto their website do you not look at the bottom and see all the corp. pp is regulated by. They would not risk the gold mine of company for and extra $12 of your money.

Has anyone noticed the following at PartyPoker's 30/60 limit hold em tables? There are only two tables and they always a large number of people waiting to enter. The players at the table with short stacks who lose all their money rarely quit the game. Instead they are dealt out unitl they get another short stack (less that $1,000) and then they go on winning streaks, while a large number of players wait to enter.

Is it just me, or.... is this the most "LOADED" site ever? O.K., I know crazy things happen on the River with live poker games, etc...that is gambling... BUT >>>>> this site is UNBELIEVABLE with all the times people pull out those 1 in a 1000+ odds at the end. Either their is some serious MULTI-Player Scanning going on, or Party Poker's software is LOADED towards unnatural River draws.... Stay away !

I have played the site for 3 weeks now. For the first 2 weeks the deal and player patterns seemed normal and what I'd expect. I then withdrew 75% of my winnings. for the last week, since withdrawing cash I haven't won a dime. My play hasn't changed but the patterns of play around me in any particular game are now fluctuating. For example, a player thats been solid\tight for an hours play will suddenly call/bet all the way through the turn with a pair of threes, with four overcards on the table, to make his set at the river, beating the pocket As. Its not that someone has had a lucky draw that's worrying, we can all do that from time to time, its the sudden variation in the pattern of the game that concerns me.

Bad beat stories are like A-holes.....everybody's got one. If you lost in Poker, it was most likely due to your own reckless play. Probablilities / Odds ARE NOT GUARANTEES....some players need to learn where the brakes are? If you don't have the nuts - you might be beat. Blaming PP is ridiculous, if it wasn't for loose players - you'd never get paid off with a monster hand! DUH.....did all you complainers think that bad players would ever play regularly if all they did was pay you? I place either 1/2/3 in PP one-table tourneys about 40% of the time. Unless you're on a card rush, or just a top-notch player, that's about all you can reasonably expect on a consistent basis. I began to notice that the tourneys I did best in, I folded the most often pre-flop. Only discipline and patience win long-term